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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 24, 2021 21:16:24 GMT
TB just threw his 600th TD pass
What's the more impressive feat?
600 TD Passes or 600 Homers or 600 goals scored?
And where would you rank them from hardest - easiest
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 21:29:01 GMT
600 TD passes because of the little volume of games an NFL player plays.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 24, 2021 21:32:37 GMT
I initially thought this was going to be easy but I seem to be flip flopping in my head between 600 Home Runs and 600 Goals
Right now I'm going -
1. 600 Home Runs
2. 600 Goals
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3. 600 TD Passes
Think about it. If you have a dominant O-Line in front of you and numerous weapons for years - it's the easiest feat of the 3
Hockey - the most grueling team sport on Earth - but if you have some assist Wizards with you going up against subpar defense and goaltending - it makes it a tad easier
Baseball? You're facing 98 mph pitches from 60 feet away. It's you vs. the pitcher and you have no clue what pitch is coming next and have a nanosecond to respond/react.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 22:00:26 GMT
I initially thought this was going to be easy but I seem to be flip flopping in my head between 600 Home Runs and 600 Goals Right now I'm going - 1. 600 Home Runs 2. 600 Goals . . . 3. 600 TD Passes Think about it. If you have a dominant O-Line in front of you and numerous weapons for years - it's the easiest feat of the 3 Hockey - the most grueling team sport on Earth - but if you have some assist Wizards with you going up against subpar defense and goaltending - it makes it a tad easier Baseball? You're facing 98 mph pitches from 60 feet away. It's you vs. the pitcher and you have no clue what pitch is coming next and have a nanosecond to respond/react. The argument against what you said is simple. 20 players have scored 600 goals in the NHL, 9 have hit 600 HRs or more. Only 1 person has ever thrown for 600 TDs. So, by that logic. Clearly it’s harder to throw 600 TDs in a career. |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 24, 2021 22:17:40 GMT
I initially thought this was going to be easy but I seem to be flip flopping in my head between 600 Home Runs and 600 Goals Right now I'm going - 1. 600 Home Runs 2. 600 Goals . . . 3. 600 TD Passes Think about it. If you have a dominant O-Line in front of you and numerous weapons for years - it's the easiest feat of the 3 Hockey - the most grueling team sport on Earth - but if you have some assist Wizards with you going up against subpar defense and goaltending - it makes it a tad easier Baseball? You're facing 98 mph pitches from 60 feet away. It's you vs. the pitcher and you have no clue what pitch is coming next and have a nanosecond to respond/react. The argument against what you said is simple. 20 players have scored 600 goals in the NHL, 9 have hit 600 HRs or more. Only 1 person has ever thrown for 600 TDs. So, by that logic. Clearly it’s harder to throw 600 TDs in a career. More elite players in their perspective sports
Think about it -
If you average 3 TDs passes for a 13 year career - you had well over 600 TD passes
Doesn't sound so impressive when you break it down (and I'm a big Brady fan - love the guy - greatest athlete ever - speaks follows about his peers though)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 22:50:45 GMT
The argument against what you said is simple. 20 players have scored 600 goals in the NHL, 9 have hit 600 HRs or more. Only 1 person has ever thrown for 600 TDs. So, by that logic. Clearly it’s harder to throw 600 TDs in a career. More elite players in their perspective sports
Think about it -
If you average 3 TDs passes for a 13 year career - you had well over 600 TD passes
Doesn't sound so impressive when you break it down (and I'm a big Brady fan - love the guy - greatest athlete ever - speaks follows about his peers though)
But it is harder than it sounds, because no one has ever done it before. Look, you also have to take in the fact that baseball players go up to bat 3-4 times a game, and play 162 games per year. A football player gets to play 16 games a season (17 now). And if you’re up 35-3 in the second half, you put in the backup to save you. Or they have to run in a TD within 2 yards of the goal line. There’s no guarantees. It’s crazy that one guy can throw 600 TDs in an NFL career. |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 24, 2021 22:54:52 GMT
More elite players in their perspective sports
Think about it -
If you average 3 TDs passes for a 13 year career - you had well over 600 TD passes
Doesn't sound so impressive when you break it down (and I'm a big Brady fan - love the guy - greatest athlete ever - speaks follows about his peers though)
But it is harder than it sounds, because no one has ever done it before. Look, you also have to take in the fact that baseball players go up to bat 3-4 times a game, and play 162 games per year. A football player gets to play 16 games a season (17 now). And if you’re up 35-3 in the second half, you put in the backup to save you. Or they have to run in a TD within 2 yards of the goal line. There’s no guarantees. It’s crazy that one guy can throw 600 TDs in an NFL career. Nanosecond to react in baseball and you have no idea what's coming down the plate....
A QB can have all the time in the world in the pocket with a dominant O-Line in front of him with numerous moving targets - WRs, RBs, TEs to throw at......
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Oct 24, 2021 23:04:17 GMT
To give the argument more time than it deserves, the playing conditions and offensive philosophies necessary for a player to score 600 TDs have only existed for the past 15-20 years (which is part of why Marino's 48 TD season is still held in high regard: it was such a statistical anomaly when it occurred). Having said that 40 TDs is still a lot to throw in one season. To get to 600 you would have to average 40 per year for 15 years. Not likely to come up too often.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Oct 24, 2021 23:11:52 GMT
For the benefit of those of us who may not be familiar with statistics in those sports, how many NFL players have made 600 TD passes, how many baseball players have hit 600 home runs, and how many NHL players have scored 600 goals?
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Oops! Sorry. I guess I should have read through the whole thread more carefully.
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Post by tristramshandy on Oct 24, 2021 23:15:13 GMT
I initially thought this was going to be easy but I seem to be flip flopping in my head between 600 Home Runs and 600 Goals Right now I'm going - 1. 600 Home Runs 2. 600 Goals . . . 3. 600 TD Passes Think about it. If you have a dominant O-Line in front of you and numerous weapons for years - it's the easiest feat of the 3 Hockey - the most grueling team sport on Earth - but if you have some assist Wizards with you going up against subpar defense and goaltending - it makes it a tad easier Baseball? You're facing 98 mph pitches from 60 feet away. It's you vs. the pitcher and you have no clue what pitch is coming next and have a nanosecond to respond/react. The argument against what you said is simple. 20 players have scored 600 goals in the NHL, 9 have hit 600 HRs or more. Only 1 person has ever thrown for 600 TDs. So, by that logic. Clearly it’s harder to throw 600 TDs in a career. Exactly - - the statistic itself tells you which is most impressive.
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Post by 尺ロㄈにモイ州凡几 on Oct 24, 2021 23:19:32 GMT
600 TD passes. Considering how, in 100 years of the NFL, only one player has thrown that many and at least a handful have accomplished the other two. Though I will say that with how QBs are playing longer careers now and there will now be one more game per season going forward, 600 career TD passes will become a much easier total to reach. QBs like Mahomes, Burrow, and Herbert could definitely reach that mark before they retire.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 25, 2021 3:03:49 GMT
600 TD's.
That could change in 20yrs, yet today it's that. Sure it's a longevity stat, yet not fully if a guy can't deliver the goods.
I would say 600 NHL goals will be my choice in a few years again. No one is scoring much more than about 50 a year at most.
600 HR while great seems obviously less rare, not least the unique eras during which guys have reached it. Ruth, Griffey, Pujols... they all played in rather specific eras apart one another.
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Post by movielover on Oct 25, 2021 3:04:37 GMT
600 TD Passes
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Post by SportsFan19 on Oct 25, 2021 5:09:54 GMT
+600
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 25, 2021 6:12:45 GMT
Unbelievable. You dolts never cease to amaze me. So let me get this right. You've got 5 beasts in front of you blocking for you giving you all the time in the world. And then have 5 targets to throw to to try and complete the task. And this is the harder task to accomplish? Harder than skating on razor blades and hitting an assortment of 95 mph pitches from 60 feet away?  |
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Post by SportsFan19 on Oct 25, 2021 6:17:57 GMT
600 PIM in a season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 9:31:02 GMT
Unbelievable. You dolts never cease to amaze me. So let me get this right. You've got 5 beasts in front of you blocking for you giving you all the time in the world. And then have 5 targets to throw to to try and complete the task. And this is the harder task to accomplish? Harder than skating on razor blades and hitting an assortment of 95 mph pitches from 60 feet away? What exactly are you saying here? Which is harder to do? Throw a single TD pass to a WR, or hit a 95 mph baseball, or hit a puck into a net guarded by a goalie? Or… The actual act of passing for 600 TDs? Because there is a difference. You’re looking at it from a very basic standpoint. It’s not about how easy or hard the act of scoring is, it’s how many TDs were talking about here. You’re not taking into account, “How many games you get to play” or “What if I get injured?” (You’re less likely to get a career ending injury in baseball) “What if we run for 3 TDs instead of me passing for one”? “What if I get replaced by a younger QB”? Etc etc etc… When you play a limited amount of games per season. You keep using very basic points to make your case. When in reality. In 100 years of the NFL, only one person has ever done it. And he is 44 years old, won 7 Super Bowls. (Which also, hasn’t been done by a QB). He’s an anomaly anyway. |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 25, 2021 10:21:02 GMT
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Post by bluerisk on Oct 25, 2021 13:29:42 GMT
To give the argument more time than it deserves, the playing conditions and offensive philosophies necessary for a player to score 600 TDs have only existed for the past 15-20 years (which is part of why Marino's 48 TD season is still held in high regard: it was such a statistical anomaly when it occurred). Having said that 40 TDs is still a lot to throw in one season. To get to 600 you would have to average 40 per year for 15 years. Not likely to come up too often. QBs in the old days didn't suffer from the cap space as QBs of the current era do: Wilson, Rodgers, Brees and others. Financially potent team can no longer stack the roster as they could before, hence the overall quality roster of top teams has suffered. And the production of a QB depends on the quality of his team mates. So modern QBs are better protected by the rules - what is a good thing -, but they have to deal with other draw backs. Modern indoor arenas also benefit the numbers, but Brady played most of the time in an open stadium in an area that knows the cold and the rain. The duel between Brady and his old team, for instance, was massively influenced by the weather. 600 TDs.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 25, 2021 14:27:07 GMT
I'm glad everyone chose the obvious here. The alternate reality where someone says 'goals' and frogs immediately lists goals as the easiest thing to do in sports would've been much less entertaining.
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