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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 25, 2021 15:23:48 GMT
Unbelievable. You dolts never cease to amaze me. So let me get this right. You've got 5 beasts in front of you blocking for you giving you all the time in the world. And then have 5 targets to throw to to try and complete the task. And this is the harder task to accomplish? Harder than skating on razor blades and hitting an assortment of 95 mph pitches from 60 feet away?  
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Oct 25, 2021 17:26:23 GMT
To give the argument more time than it deserves, the playing conditions and offensive philosophies necessary for a player to score 600 TDs have only existed for the past 15-20 years (which is part of why Marino's 48 TD season is still held in high regard: it was such a statistical anomaly when it occurred). Having said that 40 TDs is still a lot to throw in one season. To get to 600 you would have to average 40 per year for 15 years. Not likely to come up too often. QBs in the old days didn't suffer from the cap space as QBs of the current era do: Wilson, Rodgers, Brees and others. Financially potent team can no longer stack the roster as they could before, hence the overall quality roster of top teams has suffered. And the production of a QB depends on the quality of his team mates. So modern QBs are better protected by the rules - what is a good thing -, but they have to deal with other draw backs. Modern indoor arenas also benefit the numbers, but Brady played most of the time in an open stadium in an area that knows the cold and the rain. The duel between Brady and his old team, for instance, was massively influenced by the weather. 600 TDs. Good point on caps diluting the overall quality of teams and the weather conditions, but the big change in philosophy has been from offences being built around the run and the QB acting as a facilitator or Game Manager to what we have now. It used to be if a QB threw for 250 yards and 3 TDs in a game that would be a career day for them. Today a) there's no way you'd have 3 TDs if you'd only thrown for 250 yards and b) elite QBs regularly put up 3 TD games, even in losses. Fans seem to like it but I don't. I hardly watch a game these days. Too much scoring. Too many ads. And the games are far too long. Not going to change though as fans like scoring. Networks like having ad breaks after each score and having the audience for longer as the games drag on. |
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Post by bluerisk on Oct 25, 2021 18:20:31 GMT
QBs in the old days didn't suffer from the cap space as QBs of the current era do: Wilson, Rodgers, Brees and others. Financially potent team can no longer stack the roster as they could before, hence the overall quality roster of top teams has suffered. And the production of a QB depends on the quality of his team mates. So modern QBs are better protected by the rules - what is a good thing -, but they have to deal with other draw backs. Modern indoor arenas also benefit the numbers, but Brady played most of the time in an open stadium in an area that knows the cold and the rain. The duel between Brady and his old team, for instance, was massively influenced by the weather. 600 TDs. Good point on caps diluting the overall quality of teams and the weather conditions, but the big change in philosophy has been from offences being built around the run and the QB acting as a facilitator or Game Manager to what we have now. It used to be if a QB threw for 250 yards and 3 TDs in a game that would be a career day for them. Today a) there's no way you'd have 3 TDs if you'd only thrown for 250 yards and b) elite QBs regularly put up 3 TD games, even in losses. Fans seem to like it but I don't. I hardly watch a game these days. Too much scoring. Too many ads. And the games are far too long. Not going to change though as fans like scoring. Networks like having ad breaks after each score and having the audience for longer as the games drag on. I agree. Only one thing: Brady threw yesterday 211 yards and made 4 TDs...but he is the GOAT, and he has weapons (albeit Gronky, and AB are injured...but with them they are an elite team, again only possible due to Brady's massiv pay cut.). Brady doesn't seem to care about his percentage, and throws a lot of long distance passes - even in the rainy game against us. These are often hit or miss. Thus a low number in yards but still a lot of TDs. But overall his is leading the in both TDs and yards...overall and the current season. I was asked yesterday if it wouldn't be great if we played everyday against the Jets. My answer: Hell no! High scoring is ok, but in games like the one against Dallas. PS: I love Lamar Jackson, but like Cam Newton he will have a hard time to stay healthy for a long career, for a rushing QB has a total different toll on his health than a pocket QB like Brady. I think it is next to impossible for a rushing QB to get that far.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 25, 2021 18:30:53 GMT
Whatever the next "600 and no one has ever done it before and maybe no one ever will again" stat is. Otherwise you're comparing to things where 600 was passed by many long ago and begging the question.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 25, 2021 18:31:47 GMT
QBs in the old days didn't suffer from the cap space as QBs of the current era do: Wilson, Rodgers, Brees and others. Financially potent team can no longer stack the roster as they could before, hence the overall quality roster of top teams has suffered. And the production of a QB depends on the quality of his team mates. So modern QBs are better protected by the rules - what is a good thing -, but they have to deal with other draw backs. Modern indoor arenas also benefit the numbers, but Brady played most of the time in an open stadium in an area that knows the cold and the rain. The duel between Brady and his old team, for instance, was massively influenced by the weather. 600 TDs. Good point on caps diluting the overall quality of teams and the weather conditions, but the big change in philosophy has been from offences being built around the run and the QB acting as a facilitator or Game Manager to what we have now. It used to be if a QB threw for 250 yards and 3 TDs in a game that would be a career day for them. Today a) there's no way you'd have 3 TDs if you'd only thrown for 250 yards and b) elite QBs regularly put up 3 TD games, even in losses. Fans seem to like it but I don't. I hardly watch a game these days. Too much scoring. Too many ads. And the games are far too long. Not going to change though as fans like scoring. Networks like having ad breaks after each score and having the audience for longer as the games drag on. One rule change I'd like to see is to have the clock keep running on incomplete passes until the 2:00 warning. Something has to offset the pass-happy systems we have today to keep these games at a reasonable time limit.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 26, 2021 10:34:22 GMT
Fan Is Not Impressed With Accomplishment And Gives Tom Brady Ball Back
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 26, 2021 12:18:22 GMT
Fan Is Not Impressed With Accomplishment And Gives Tom Brady Ball Back
They didn't compensate that guy enough. The receivers should be made aware of QB milestones going into games like this.
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