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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2021 16:55:33 GMT
Oodles of bad teams out there. Winless Lions, one win Jags, Texans, Dolphins, Jets. A few two win teams. Who will win the prize? Remember last year when the Jets were the favorites all year and choked.
Funny thing is, 2022 is a weak QB class. It was mediocre to begin with and the cream of the crop, Spencer Rattler, Sam Howell, Kedon Slovis, have had bad years. There is talent out there, Matt Corrall, Carson Strong, Malik Willis (Liberty) but it would be foolish to take any of these at #1 overall. That reeks for a team like Houston or Detroit that could really use a franchise QB. You look at Cincinnati, a shit team that found a frnachise QB, built around him and now look playoff bound. Quick turnaround, mostly because of Joe Burrow. But it would be idiocy to take one of these mopes #1 overall. Even if Matt Corrall becomes a stud QB. So you trade down and get a plethora of picks, right? Will a team give up two #1's and two #2's for Kayvon Thibodeaux or Derek Stingley?
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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 25, 2021 17:23:56 GMT
I think the Jets. The Lions surely have a couple garbage time wins down the road.
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Post by tristramshandy on Oct 25, 2021 17:37:26 GMT
In two weeks Liberty plays Mississippi - - the game of a million scouts' eyes. We'll see if there is a forward thrust from there. The less-than-overwhelming QB draft is good for my Steelers, who aren't going to be bad enough to be picking in the top three but need a QB desperately.
Lions haven't won a game, but their point differential is better than the Texans, Jets, and Dolphins. If I'm the Texans, I'm looking for 2023 and later draft picks for Watson to make up for the lack of bluechip QB in this year's draft.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2021 17:42:51 GMT
I think the Jets. The Lions surely have a couple garbage time wins down the road. Zach Wilson out for a while (yeah, not like losing Joe Montana for a month, but he's better than the alternative). They really looked awful against a mediocre Pats team. They won't be drooling for a QB in 2022.
I see the DeShaun Watson talks are heating up. Big gamble but he's the best available option if you want to improve the position now.
I was looking, the 2023 Draft is weak at QB too. C.J. Stroud and little else. Of course, they come out of nowhere, like Joe Burrow.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2021 17:46:53 GMT
In two weeks Liberty plays Mississippi - - the game of a million scouts' eyes. We'll see if there is a forward thrust from there. The less-than-overwhelming QB draft is good for my Steelers, who aren't going to be bad enough to be picking in the top three but need a QB desperately. Lions haven't won a game, but their point differential is better than the Texans, Jets, and Dolphins. If I'm the Texans, I'm looking for 2023 and later draft picks for Watson to make up for the lack of bluechip QB in this year's draft. Read rumors that the Stillers might be a landing spot for Mister Rodgers. On the surface, replacing a 39 year old QB with a 37 year old looks silly, but Aaron still looks like he has gas in the tank. Dump Benny, bring in Rodgers and draft a project QB to sit for a year or two and learn? Maybe Pitt's own Kenny Pickett?
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Post by tristramshandy on Oct 25, 2021 18:12:55 GMT
In two weeks Liberty plays Mississippi - - the game of a million scouts' eyes. We'll see if there is a forward thrust from there. The less-than-overwhelming QB draft is good for my Steelers, who aren't going to be bad enough to be picking in the top three but need a QB desperately. Lions haven't won a game, but their point differential is better than the Texans, Jets, and Dolphins. If I'm the Texans, I'm looking for 2023 and later draft picks for Watson to make up for the lack of bluechip QB in this year's draft. Read rumors that the Stillers might be a landing spot for Mister Rodgers. On the surface, replacing a 39 year old QB with a 37 year old looks silly, but Aaron still looks like he has gas in the tank. Dump Benny, bring in Rodgers and draft a project QB to sit for a year or two and learn? Maybe Pitt's own Kenny Pickett?
While normally agains their MO, I think they still see the rest of their roster as good enough to be in the mix for the Super Bowl if they got Rodgers (although the o-line would need reinforcements). Rodgers has said nice things about Pittsburgh, and since the Norths played each other this year, Green Bay could go without playing Rodgers for three years if they traded him to us. And for once, we're not going to be up against the salary cap, so they could actually make it happen. Pickett is having a Carson Palmer sort of career - - a middling but talented guy for three years (in Pickett's case, he's a super senior) with a bust out final season. I wouldn't mind him as being the long term QB in that scenario, although I can't get a sense of what his stock is right now.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2021 18:23:02 GMT
Read rumors that the Stillers might be a landing spot for Mister Rodgers. On the surface, replacing a 39 year old QB with a 37 year old looks silly, but Aaron still looks like he has gas in the tank. Dump Benny, bring in Rodgers and draft a project QB to sit for a year or two and learn? Maybe Pitt's own Kenny Pickett?
Pickett is having a Carson Palmer sort of career - - a middling but talented guy for three years (in Pickett's case, he's a super senior) with a bust out final season. I wouldn't mind him as being the long term QB in that scenario, although I can't get a sense of what his stock is right now.
2nd to 3rd round projection from these guys
Just seen Colin Cowherd blathering about Mike Tomlin taking the USC job after the end of the season. Not sure where Cowturd is getting this. Tomlin has no west coast connections and the one coaching job in the entire US that you don't quit is the Steelers.
Watching Cowturd. Afternoon TV blows. God, I miss baseball already
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 25, 2021 18:40:25 GMT
Pickett is having a Carson Palmer sort of career - - a middling but talented guy for three years (in Pickett's case, he's a super senior) with a bust out final season. I wouldn't mind him as being the long term QB in that scenario, although I can't get a sense of what his stock is right now. 2nd to 3rd round projection from these guys Just seen Colin Cowherd blathering about Mike Tomlin taking the USC job after the end of the season. Not sure where Cowturd is getting this. Tomlin has no west coast connections and the one coaching job in the entire US that you don't quit is the Steelers.
Watching Cowturd. Afternoon TV blows. God, I miss baseball already It's fast forward city when I watch him. The graphics help for navigation. Carolina and Miami going after D Watson. |
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 25, 2021 18:43:51 GMT
If Wilson's out for a while, probably the Jets. I think the Lions are better than their record.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2021 18:47:06 GMT
2nd to 3rd round projection from these guys Just seen Colin Cowherd blathering about Mike Tomlin taking the USC job after the end of the season. Not sure where Cowturd is getting this. Tomlin has no west coast connections and the one coaching job in the entire US that you don't quit is the Steelers.
Watching Cowturd. Afternoon TV blows. God, I miss baseball already It's fast forward city when I watch him. The graphics help for navigation. Carolina and Miami going after D Watson. I don't like any of the talking heads but Cowturd annoys me less than Stephen A. and, if I see Greenberg, I always gets ill at the sight of Rexy Ryan.
Carolina looks to be the DeShaun favorite. I guess that puts Sam Darnold into the upper level of QB busts. And I was pissed when the Bills didn't trade up to get him 
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2021 18:48:08 GMT
If Wilson's out for a while, probably the Jets. I think the Lions are better than their record. they can't be worse than 0 fer 
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 25, 2021 18:50:17 GMT
If Wilson's out for a while, probably the Jets. I think the Lions are better than their record. they can't be worse than 0 fer
Nope - and I just feel like they tend to be competitive in games - they were really unlucky to lose some of them. I mean, obviously. Just look at those Ravens and Vikings games.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2021 19:12:18 GMT
they can't be worse than 0 fer
Nope - and I just feel like they tend to be competitive in games - they were really unlucky to lose some of them. I mean, obviously. Just look at those Ravens and Vikings games. Funny thing about the Lions, they haven't drafted bad recently. Can't judge Penai Sewell. Last years, Jeff Odukah, could be an epic bust. But after him, both TJ Hockenstein and Frank Ragnow have been all pros. There are teams with worse drafts. But it's not key positions. Having a great TE and Center is nice, but not as nice as a great QB or edge rusher. And the QB situation has been an abortion for this franchise. Stafford, now a great QB since moving away. Who was the great QB before Stafford? Bobby Fucking Layne? You cannot win in the NFL without a QB. And no "what about Trent Dilfer?" That was a freak. I could have ran that team with that defense. I watched the Bills try bargain bin QB's from Jim Kelly to Josh Allen. IT DOESN'T WORK. And I know there isn't 32 great QB's out there. but you have to try and when you get one, get players to help him. Like Cincinnati
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 25, 2021 20:20:09 GMT
I'm reading that Wilson is out for 2 weeks. I'd honestly consider shutting him down and letting him watch and "learn" on the sidelines. Worst (best?) case scenario, they have a top pick (and likely a high pick from Seattle too) to start putting some help around Wilson. I couldn't give a hoot about college football; is it supposed to be a strong draft class for OL or WRs?
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Post by Xeliou66 on Oct 25, 2021 21:02:26 GMT
I’ll say the Lions - I think there’s a good chance they go winless, I mean just look at their roster, it may be the worst roster I’ve ever seen for an NFL team. I like Campbell as a coach and I think they are playing their hardest but the cupboard is bare. If not the Lions then the Texans or Jets, the Texans are almost as talentless as the Lions, and the Jets defense is god awful and now Wilson is hurt. I guarantee those teams will have the top 3 picks in the draft.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2021 21:27:26 GMT
I’ll say the Lions - I think there’s a good chance they go winless, I mean just look at their roster, it may be the worst roster I’ve ever seen for an NFL team. I like Campbell as a coach and I think they are playing their hardest but the cupboard is bare. If not the Lions then the Texans or Jets, the Texans are almost as talentless as the Lions, and the Jets defense is god awful and now Wilson is hurt. I guarantee those teams will have the top 3 picks in the draft. Looking at the schedule, it might be Detroit. Their last winnable game might be this weekend against the Iggles. Jets and Dolphins play each other, Texans and Jags play each other. My gut tells me Houston. Only time I've watched them was the Bills game and that was pitiful. Worst performance I've ever seen and I was around for the expansion "Yuccaneers", the 1-15 "Aint's" along with the "Ofers" y'all seen. Then again, they might be better if Tyrod Taylor comes back
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Post by tristramshandy on Oct 25, 2021 22:15:35 GMT
It's fast forward city when I watch him. The graphics help for navigation. Carolina and Miami going after D Watson. I don't like any of the talking heads but Cowturd annoys me less than Stephen A. and, if I see Greenberg, I always gets ill at the sight of Rexy Ryan.
Carolina looks to be the DeShaun favorite. I guess that puts Sam Darnold into the upper level of QB busts. And I was pissed when the Bills didn't trade up to get him
Both Mark Sanchez and Sam Darnold should send contributions to Penn State for making their Rose Bowl accomplishments against them so impressive that the Jets spent top five picks on them.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 25, 2021 22:29:26 GMT
I don't like any of the talking heads but Cowturd annoys me less than Stephen A. and, if I see Greenberg, I always gets ill at the sight of Rexy Ryan.
Carolina looks to be the DeShaun favorite. I guess that puts Sam Darnold into the upper level of QB busts. And I was pissed when the Bills didn't trade up to get him
Both Mark Sanchez and Sam Darnold should send contributions to Penn State for making their Rose Bowl accomplishments against them so impressive that the Jets spent top five picks on them. How many USC Qb's have succeeded in the NFL? Carson Palmer, yet he never got to a Super Bowl. Then what, a couple of "OK", Rodney Peete, pat Haden. And the a truckload of busts. Todd Marinovich (that was in the days when agent sold the Raiders on bums, like Marc Wilson and JaMarcus), Matt Leinhart, Sanchez, Darnold. And a lot of never was, Josh Booty, Paul McDonald, Cody Kessler. This is why I'd stay away from Kedon Slovis. Same thing goes with post-Montana Notre Dame QB's.
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Post by DrKrippen on Oct 25, 2021 22:43:31 GMT
I'm thinking the Dolphins. Just a hunch.
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Post by stickman38 on Oct 25, 2021 22:49:56 GMT
We're probably going to see a lot of tanking this year. I hate it... the league definitely needs to do something about this.
But I would like to see the Texans get it, even though it looks like it will be the Lions. Will they take a QB when they've got Goff? We shall see.
I don't follow the draft stuff that closely, so I wouldn't know for sure about this. But yeah, Jets or Lions is my guess. Texans should win a few games once they get Taylor back.
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