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Post by Spike Del Rey on Oct 27, 2021 14:26:17 GMT
Jaws 2, simply because I haven't seen Halloween II since the early 80s and can barely remember it.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 27, 2021 22:35:59 GMT
If someone doesn't consider Halloween II canon than how would they be able to consider H20 canon? I realize you must be joking because of the contradiction, but I have a hard time telling when you are serious or not. As for Halloween II being canon, it clearly is. Whether I like it or not is beside the point. The movie is produced and written by John Carpenter and is not only a direct sequel, but takes place the same night as the original. No one dislikes Halloween II more than John Carpenter. He's also involved with the new ones, which retcon H2 out of existence. I look at the new ones as basically fan fiction myself, but there's really no clear canon. |
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 27, 2021 22:42:20 GMT
If someone doesn't consider Halloween II canon than how would they be able to consider H20 canon? I realize you must be joking because of the contradiction, but I have a hard time telling when you are serious or not. As for Halloween II being canon, it clearly is. Whether I like it or not is beside the point. The movie is produced and written by John Carpenter and is not only a direct sequel, but takes place the same night as the original. No one dislikes Halloween II more than John Carpenter. He's also involved with the new ones, which retcon H2 out of existence. I look at the new ones as basically fan fiction myself, but there's really no clear canon. Then what is the criteria for what is canon? Just if the director likes the movie?
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 27, 2021 22:47:03 GMT
No one dislikes Halloween II more than John Carpenter. He's also involved with the new ones, which retcon H2 out of existence. I look at the new ones as basically fan fiction myself, but there's really no clear canon. Then what is the criteria for what is canon? Just if the director likes the movie? Generally whatever is currently treated canon. The Star Wars EU was canon until Disney. The Halloween Jamie Lloyd trilogy was canon until H20. H20 was canon until 2018. |
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 27, 2021 22:49:35 GMT
Then what is the criteria for what is canon? Just if the director likes the movie? Generally whatever is currently treated canon. The Star Wars EU was canon until Disney. The Halloween Jamie Lloyd trilogy was canon until H20. H20 was canon until 2018. Forget I asked. 
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Oct 27, 2021 22:56:56 GMT
The only thing I remember about Jaws 2 was there was some girl in a boat who kept screaming hysterically for the longest time- over 10 minutes- and I really just wanted the shark to shut her up. To this day I am not sure if she yells "SHARK!" or "SHAWN!"...
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 27, 2021 23:10:45 GMT
I just saw Jaws 2 again, and it still blows. The only possible new angle is Brody being overly paranoid, but it's not like there's ever any doubt there's another shark so it's just going through the same motions of no one listening to him, including that goddamn mayor who just forgot his lesson in the first movie. Where's Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?
It'd be like if Halloween II opened with Loomis warning Sheriff Bracket that Michael is back and Bracket ignoring him. While HII is overrated, at least it's not a total rehash like this.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 28, 2021 3:18:17 GMT
If someone doesn't consider Halloween II canon than how would they be able to consider H20 canon? I realize you must be joking because of the contradiction, but I have a hard time telling when you are serious or not. As for Halloween II being canon, it clearly is. Whether I like it or not is beside the point. The movie is produced and written by John Carpenter and is not only a direct sequel, but takes place the same night as the original. No one dislikes Halloween II more than John Carpenter. He's also involved with the new ones, which retcon H2 out of existence. I look at the new ones as basically fan fiction myself, but there's really no clear canon. Is it canon for the series? Sure. Do I consider it canon? Nope. Part of Halloween 1978's chilling fear is that Michael Myers... he's gone, without a trace.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Oct 29, 2021 8:19:02 GMT
Jaws 2 is a great sequel. I may be the only person on Earth who actually favours it over the original due to the stronger horror movie vibes.
Halloween II is average. It has some memorable moments and Pleasance delivers a striking OTT performance, but it's in most respects far inferior to the 1978 movie.
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Post by Vits on Nov 1, 2021 9:02:59 GMT
JAWS 2 - 4/10
HALLOWEEN II - 6/10
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