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Post by NJtoTX on Dec 8, 2021 16:20:39 GMT
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Post by masterofallgoons on Dec 8, 2021 16:44:14 GMT
Just watched it for the first time just now. Interesting question... I lean towards the side of leaving it as it is. You can still pursue the quarterback and put a hand on him to make sure he doesn't do this without getting flagged, and it's a subtle enough move that it doesn't make it the unnecessary roughness call much of a risk.
This obviously worked incredibly well, but it's not something I'd think to work that well ever again.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 8, 2021 17:03:06 GMT
15 yards from line of scrimmage. The rule isn't in the sport for some cute reason, it's so guys like him don't get driven to hospital & die in their 40's.
I would also yellow card him & next bad offense he's banned for a game.
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Post by NJtoTX on Dec 8, 2021 17:29:32 GMT
Just watched it for the first time just now. Interesting question... I lean towards the side of leaving it as it is. You can still pursue the quarterback and put a hand on him to make sure he doesn't do this without getting flagged, and it's a subtle enough move that it doesn't make it the unnecessary roughness call much of a risk. This obviously worked incredibly well, but it's not something I'd think to work that well ever again. I think it's tough enough on defensive players when dealing with running QBs. It's like starting to signal for a fair catch, then running with the ball.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 8, 2021 17:46:50 GMT
Just watched it for the first time just now. Interesting question... I lean towards the side of leaving it as it is. You can still pursue the quarterback and put a hand on him to make sure he doesn't do this without getting flagged, and it's a subtle enough move that it doesn't make it the unnecessary roughness call much of a risk. This obviously worked incredibly well, but it's not something I'd think to work that well ever again. I think it's tough enough on defensive players when dealing with running QBs. It's like starting to signal for a fair catch, then running with the ball. When I saw this play I immediately thought they'd come up with a rule in the offseason. It's hard enough on defenders these days without QBs pulling shit like this because they know defenders are afraid to get flagged or tossed out. It should just be a dead ball where the incident occurred.
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Post by DrKrippen on Dec 8, 2021 17:50:13 GMT
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Post by NJtoTX on Dec 8, 2021 18:00:13 GMT
Sounds like he wasn't trying to trick them, he just saw them backing off and changed his mind. Too bad somebody couldn't have crushed him on the way. Even if he started to slide again. I still go with just the "he's down" change to the rule. I don't see a reason for it being punitive.
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Post by DrKrippen on Dec 8, 2021 18:34:03 GMT
Didn't look like much to me in real time. Defenders didn't do their job is all.
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Post by NJtoTX on Dec 8, 2021 18:55:02 GMT
Didn't look like much to me in real time. Defenders didn't do their job is all. So #45 should have dove at him, just in case it wasn't real, instead of purposely pulling up, the get tossed for targeting if he slid?
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Post by DrKrippen on Dec 8, 2021 19:00:35 GMT
Didn't look like much to me in real time. Defenders didn't do their job is all. So #45 should have dove at him, just in case it wasn't real, instead of purposely pulling up, the get tossed for targeting if he slid? Yup.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Dec 8, 2021 19:04:26 GMT
f. Death by firing squad.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 8, 2021 19:09:26 GMT
Not a fan of adding another judgment call to the game. First time a QB stumbles a bit and the ref calls him down, there will be calls to kill the rule.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 8, 2021 19:20:52 GMT
Not a fan of adding another judgment call to the game. First time a QB stumbles a bit and the ref calls him down, there will be calls to kill the rule. Had that thought, too. But I figure targeting is already up to them, and targeting is what's going to be called a lot more when these QBs start playing games with the fake sliding. But ultimately that's the reason they won't institute a rule change. How can a ref be expected to tell the difference between a fake slide and an ugly juke move by a QB who isn't a particularly gifted runner?
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Post by tristramshandy on Dec 8, 2021 19:38:47 GMT
This should have been a controversy years ago. There are quarterbacks who run towards the sidelines like they are going to go out and then hop back inside for a few more yards knowing that they think the defenders will just back off. I think the only reason this one has caught people's attention is because it went for a touchdown.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 8, 2021 20:24:36 GMT
This should have been a controversy years ago. There are quarterbacks who run towards the sidelines like they are going to go out and then hop back inside for a few more yards knowing that they think the defenders will just back off. I think the only reason this one has caught people's attention is because it went for a touchdown. Or Mahomes straight up baiting guys to hit him late as he pulls up on the sidelines with both players momentum carrying them out of bounds.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 9, 2021 4:54:42 GMT
This should have been a controversy years ago. There are quarterbacks who run towards the sidelines like they are going to go out and then hop back inside for a few more yards knowing that they think the defenders will just back off. I think the only reason this one has caught people's attention is because it went for a touchdown. It reminds me that players have their own QB's doing the same thing as it were... Like baseball players watching their pitcher get all the junk calls... & then stare down the ump at their own ring ups. Stop. Hell, we see it in the NBA every 40 seconds... players act like nothing is a foul, until they've got the ball. It's f'n annoying.
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