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Post by london777 on Dec 25, 2021 19:27:47 GMT
Bad(der) Santa (2003?) dir: Terry Zwigoff gives Christmas its just desserts. Recommended family viewing when your maiden aunts from Middle America visit. I do not know the release date. It was a studio re-cut of Bad Santa without Zwigoff's supervision. There is also a Director's Cut, but the differences between the three seem minor. Then came Bad Santa 2 in 2016. Avoid that one.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Dec 25, 2021 19:37:14 GMT
Rufus-T On your recommendation, it's now on my To Be Watched list ... thanks ! Cool! Last time I watched it, I was a kid. If it is sucks, blame my kid self Watched it and the verdict is that as a Carol Clone it was ok ! I liked Winkler's version better than the rather lackluster Patrick Stewart actual Carol ... also watched last night.
My favorite clone is the Amazing Teddy Z Christmas episode.
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Post by london777 on Dec 26, 2021 16:53:46 GMT
Too many of the films already suggested were directed by no-names. Christmas deserves a masterwork from a great British director:
Ein Kitten für Hitler (2007) dir: Ken Russell
And it is free to view on YouTube! Their Christmas present to all of us!
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 26, 2021 21:25:30 GMT
This one is playing on TCM now: I watched that myself iyn HBO Max. For my money, Stewart was better here than the performance he won an Oscar for that year in The Philadelphia Story. Kind of a dick move he pulled at the end, but it was funny.
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Post by Rufus-T on Dec 26, 2021 21:52:55 GMT
Cool! Last time I watched it, I was a kid. If it is sucks, blame my kid self Watched it and the verdict is that as a Carol Clone it was ok ! I liked Winkler's version better than the rather lackluster Patrick Stewart actual Carol ... also watched last night.
My favorite clone is the Amazing Teddy Z Christmas episode. I re-watched it last night, and remember basically nothing about it. I can understand why I liked it very much back then. It was very Hallmark-ish, with many good and touching scenes. Henry Winkler was quite effective as the scrooge character. I love the speech Brewster gave to him which he later gave the same speech to the boy at the end. It is a very decent TV movie.
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Post by Rufus-T on Dec 26, 2021 21:56:29 GMT
This one is playing on TCM now: I watched that myself iyn HBO Max. For my money, Stewart was better here than the performance he won an Oscar for that year in The Philadelphia Story. Kind of a dick move he pulled at the end, but it was funny. Actually, I would pick all his other nominated roles, and other non nominated roles, over his winning role in The Philadelphia Story.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 26, 2021 21:59:24 GMT
I watched that myself iyn HBO Max. For my money, Stewart was better here than the performance he won an Oscar for that year in The Philadelphia Story. Kind of a dick move he pulled at the end, but it was funny. Actually, I would pick all his other nominated roles, and other non nominated roles, over his winning role in The Philadelphia Story. I think it was obviously a quick makeup award for Mr Smith, just strange he got recognized for that when there was a perfectly worthy performance here instead.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 27, 2021 0:20:20 GMT
There’s also Larceny, Inc. (1942) with Edward G. Robinson.
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Post by mattgarth on Dec 27, 2021 1:33:22 GMT
PHIL STORY is almost more of a Supporting performance for Stewart.
He had just been drafted into the Army at the time of the Oscar ceremony -- so he had that going for him at the time.
Just as Englishman Robert Donat the year before had CHIPS sending a support to the war-torn Brits.
Stewart deserved it even more for the post-war WONDERFUL LIFE over Fredric March in BEST YEARS.
And the even better performance in that latter film -- Dana Andrews -- wasn't even nominated.
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Post by spiderwort on Dec 30, 2021 22:42:29 GMT
PHIL STORY is almost more of a Supporting performance for Stewart. He had just been drafted into the Army at the time of the Oscar ceremony -- so he had that going for him at the time. Just as Englishman Robert Donat the year before had CHIPS sending a support to the war-torn Brits. Stewart deserved it even more for the post-war WONDERFUL LIFE over Fredric March in BEST YEARS. And the even better performance in that latter film -- Dana Andrews -- wasn't even nominated.
Agree with you 100% -- about a BEST YEARS nomination for Andrews, who was exceptional in that film, and about Stewart's performance in WONDERFUL LIFE, which is absolutely one of his best, and most moving -- a consequence, I'm sure of him just having returned from serving in WWII, flying B-24 Liberator bombers over Nazi-occupied Europe. I found this, which I think will interest you: " Despite having a degree from Princeton and hundreds of hours behind the stick of an aircraft, Stewart was so ready to serve in World War II, he enlisted as a private before the United States entered the war. He was rejected by the Army at first for being underweight, but with the help of a Hollywood friend, he was able to literally tip the scales in his favor, entering the Army in 1940.
He was the first Hollywood actor to join up. It was the start of a 27-year career in the Army and then the Air Force. When a producer asked him why he would give up his screen career for the military, he said: 'This country's conscience is bigger than all the studios in Hollywood put together, and the time will come when we'll have to fight.'"
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Post by marshamae on Dec 31, 2021 1:08:20 GMT
I watched that myself iyn HBO Max. For my money, Stewart was better here than the performance he won an Oscar for that year in The Philadelphia Story. Kind of a dick move he pulled at the end, but it was funny. Actually, I would pick all his other nominated roles, and other non nominated roles, over his winning role in The Philadelphia Story. I love love love his duets with Margaret Sullavan, -Miss Novak? -Yes, Mr. Kralik? -I noticed that you wore a yellow blouse with light-green dots yesterday. -No, Mr. Kralik. As usual, you're mistaken. It was green with light-yellow dots. Everybody else thought it was very becoming. I don't remember remarking about your neckties. If you think I couldn't say anything about your neckties... just ask Mr. vadas. My blouse is none of your business. - I'm sorry. Mr. Matuschek seems to think it is my business. - Yes, that's right. I'm working under you. I'll call you every morning and describe what I'm going to wear. Before I select my next wardrobe, my dressmaker will give you samples. Imagine you dictating what I should wear. - I don't care what you wear. If you want to look like a pony in the circus it's all right with me I have my own troubles. Without your blouse coming between MR. Matuschek and me. - I sold as much yesterday as anybody else. - For a rainy Monday three week. before Christmas, it wasn’t bad. - Did you tell Mr. Matuschek that? - Yes. -And what did he say? - He said Not to come in that blouse anymore.
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