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Post by ashverses on Mar 7, 2017 4:12:02 GMT
I just saw the first episode. I really enjoyed it quite a bit. The actresses don't necessarily nail the look or all mannerisms perfectly, but it was just enough and it didn't take me out of the story it is trying to tell. I'm in for the next episode for sure.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 8, 2017 17:36:51 GMT
Finally watched it. Pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 19:55:32 GMT
I would like to see it, as I still don't have the guts to watch the movie. My problem is that the actresses cast are 10 years older than what the originals were. I don't think it will be that convincing for me. Women aged late 60s I think would be over all that sniping and attacking.
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Post by mszanadu on Mar 8, 2017 20:05:01 GMT
I guess I'll watch it at some point. I like bingewatching. I agree here BlueJay binge-watching is definitely the way to go too .
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Post by mszanadu on Mar 8, 2017 20:08:47 GMT
Finally watched it. Pretty good. I also got to watch this too politicidal it finally ended up On Demand - thankfully .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 21:11:17 GMT
I quite liked it, I love stuff set in this era so loving the sets and costumes so far. I thought Lange was miscast as she looks and sounds nothing like Joan Crawford, she was just playing herself and the characters she always used to portray on AHS. I do think Judy Davis and Mamacita will steal the show though. Didn't really like Zeta-Jones as Olivia Dr Havilland and that mockumentary angle wasn't really needed.
Edit: Also I'd love to know why it's not been picked up in the UK.
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Post by CoyoteGraves on Mar 10, 2017 6:26:30 GMT
Is Mamasita based on a real person? I only ask because the character wasn't in Mommie Dearest, and in Feud she pretty much went everywhere Joan went.
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Post by mszanadu on Mar 10, 2017 14:40:48 GMT
Is Mamasita based on a real person? I only ask because the character wasn't in Mommie Dearest, and in Feud she pretty much went everywhere Joan went. I so noticed that as well CoyoteGraves . The only 2 wild guesses I could come up with . It was either she's a second replacement housekeeper from Carol Ann the one in Mommie Dearest 1981 film . OR It's the same exact housekeeper character and her name was changed for this TV series . Thanks CoyoteGraves for mentioning this here and your reply .
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Post by ashverses on Mar 10, 2017 18:59:23 GMT
CoyoteGraves mszanaduI found this on Vanity Fair to explain the maid. She Had a Trusty German Maid She Called “Mamacita”
Joan Crawford was a workhorse and perfectionist, and she demanded the same exhaustively exacting attention from those who worked for her—including “Mamacita,” her endlessly loyal right-hand woman, played on FX’s retelling by Jackie Hoffman. Although this detail is head-scratching enough, the story of how “Mamacita” came to be known as “Mamacita” is even crazier. Allow Crawford to explain her maid’s backstory herself, in an excerpt from the star’s 1971 lifestyle manual, My Way of Life.
“I think it’s time to explain that Mamacita isn’t a Spanish girl, she’s a German lady who raised nine children and has many grandchildren,” wrote Crawford. “I took a house in Westhampton nine or ten years ago—a place to take the children for the summer. I had no one to help me and I didn’t want to spend two months making beds and scrubbing bathrooms. I called a neighbor who put his maid on the phone.
“‘I know someone for you,’ she said. ‘But I don’t know whether you can put up with her. She’s never heard of a bucket and a mop.’”
‘‘Handsies, kneesies?’ I asked.”
“‘Yep,’ she replied.”
“‘Bring her over tomorrow morning.’ That’s just my cup of tea. I never did think you could get into corners with any mop. ‘Who is it?’”
“‘My mother,’ she said. ‘I’ll bring her.’”
“The next morning I was on the phone when they arrived. I turned for a moment and said, ‘Start in my bedroom and have her work her way through the other bedrooms and then down here,’ and then I went back to the phone. When I hung up I wanted to call her to come quickly to take the dogs out but I realized that I hadn’t asked her name. I had just returned from Rio de Janeiro, where all I had heard was mamacita, papacita, cousincita, everythingcita, so without thinking I called out, ‘Mamacita!’ Back she cried, ‘Ya! Ich comming!’ The name has stuck ever since.”
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“Inevitably, when we’re traveling, she’s referred to as my mother. ‘What would your mother like to drink, Miss Crawford?’”
“‘Gin and tonic, please.’”
“She’ll giggle and nudge me, very pleased. ‘He thinks I’m ya mama!’ I let it go. I don’t know what I’d do without Mamacita. No new situation ever flusters her. And new situations turn up every day.”
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Post by mszanadu on Mar 10, 2017 19:42:45 GMT
CoyoteGraves mszanadu I found this on Vanity Fair to explain the maid. She Had a Trusty German Maid She Called “Mamacita”
Joan Crawford was a workhorse and perfectionist, and she demanded the same exhaustively exacting attention from those who worked for her—including “Mamacita,” her endlessly loyal right-hand woman, played on FX’s retelling by Jackie Hoffman. Although this detail is head-scratching enough, the story of how “Mamacita” came to be known as “Mamacita” is even crazier. Allow Crawford to explain her maid’s backstory herself, in an excerpt from the star’s 1971 lifestyle manual, My Way of Life.
“I think it’s time to explain that Mamacita isn’t a Spanish girl, she’s a German lady who raised nine children and has many grandchildren,” wrote Crawford. “I took a house in Westhampton nine or ten years ago—a place to take the children for the summer. I had no one to help me and I didn’t want to spend two months making beds and scrubbing bathrooms. I called a neighbor who put his maid on the phone.
“‘I know someone for you,’ she said. ‘But I don’t know whether you can put up with her. She’s never heard of a bucket and a mop.’”
‘‘Handsies, kneesies?’ I asked.”
“‘Yep,’ she replied.”
“‘Bring her over tomorrow morning.’ That’s just my cup of tea. I never did think you could get into corners with any mop. ‘Who is it?’”
“‘My mother,’ she said. ‘I’ll bring her.’”
“The next morning I was on the phone when they arrived. I turned for a moment and said, ‘Start in my bedroom and have her work her way through the other bedrooms and then down here,’ and then I went back to the phone. When I hung up I wanted to call her to come quickly to take the dogs out but I realized that I hadn’t asked her name. I had just returned from Rio de Janeiro, where all I had heard was mamacita, papacita, cousincita, everythingcita, so without thinking I called out, ‘Mamacita!’ Back she cried, ‘Ya! Ich comming!’ The name has stuck ever since.”
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“Inevitably, when we’re traveling, she’s referred to as my mother. ‘What would your mother like to drink, Miss Crawford?’”
“‘Gin and tonic, please.’”
“She’ll giggle and nudge me, very pleased. ‘He thinks I’m ya mama!’ I let it go. I don’t know what I’d do without Mamacita. No new situation ever flusters her. And new situations turn up every day.”
Whoa ! That's quite a excellent story there . Thanks so much ashverses for sharing this here with us too .
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Post by Wesley Crusher on Mar 13, 2017 23:47:20 GMT
I've enjoyed watching Feud (Davis & Crawford) Today I just re-watched What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? (1962) 10/10 The star of this film is 1) Bette Davis ... 2) Bette Davis ... and 3) Bette Davis It is easy to sense how motivated Bette was to outshine Joan at all times Joan Crawford is fantastic ... but it's hard to notice because she's like a banana and Bette Davis is a starving King Kong. Bette Davis has always been my favorite actress ... I don't think any other actress could have delivered the greatness Bette gave to this role.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Mar 14, 2017 0:10:36 GMT
I don't how close the story they're telling is to fact and how close to fiction but I'm definitely watching the whole thing after last night's ep. Glad to see the underlying humour that's prevalent throughout AHS is here as well. Sarandon looked even more like Davis last night, even the way she stood and walked, while Lange looks like.... Lange.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 0:15:20 GMT
I noticed they don't make Sarandon look quite as hideous as Davis in Baby Jane. She doesn't have that heavy application of lipstick. This is interesting to watch, they were both ridiculous women
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Post by bd74 on Mar 21, 2017 22:32:51 GMT
So far, I'm enjoying the series. I gotta say, I'm really impressed with the performance of Jessica Lange. She really shined in the last episode, which focused on Crawford's loneliness and her desire to adopt more children. Lange was the MVP of the series for me since the first episode, and she still is. Sarandon is good too, but the difference between her and Lange is that Lange is at least trying to somewhat emulate some of Crawford's speech patterns.
Something I noticed in the second episode was that Crawford actually used a whole bottle of witch hazel to pour into the sink and splash onto her face a couple of times. WTF? She can't afford to pay her gardeners but she can afford to waste an entire bottle of witch hazel every single day?
And the guy who plays Victor Buono actually looks like the real Victor.
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Post by mszanadu on Mar 22, 2017 19:27:15 GMT
I've enjoyed watching Feud (Davis & Crawford) Today I just re-watched What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? (1962) 10/10 The star of this film is 1) Bette Davis ... 2) Bette Davis ... and 3) Bette Davis It is easy to sense how motivated Bette was to outshine Joan at all times Joan Crawford is fantastic ... but it's hard to notice because she's like a banana and Bette Davis is a starving King Kong. Bette Davis has always been my favorite actress ... I don't think any other actress could have delivered the greatness Bette gave to this role. I'm actually watching this movie right now on TCM ( Turner Classic Movies ) . I'm seeing a lot of the similarities from the movie to this new show as well . It definitely seems that actresses Susan Sarandon and Jessica Lange are truly capturing the movie styles of legendary actresses Bette Davis and Joan Crawford too . It's interesting also when the later film Mommie Dearest 1981 was first out . I actually used to confuse actress Faye Dunaway with actress Jessica Lange IMPO - I think both actresses looked so much alike at that time - 1980's . Almost " an eerie sort of prediction " that Jessica Lange has now taken the same role of Joan Crawford quite a few years later .
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Mar 22, 2017 23:17:59 GMT
I enjoyed the first episode. Honestly think Sarandon is going to steal the show. She was much more enticing than Lange was. The only think I know about Joan Crawford is Mommie Dearest which was reportedly very hackneyed. So I don't know how accurate the portrayal of the quite suffering actress is accurate. It doesn't feel right though. The portrayal of Davis' suffering as a waning actress on the big screen felt much more palpable. You should see Mommy Dearest. Despite what you've heard, Faye Dunaway gives a truly incredible performance. Jessica Lange just doesn't look like Joan Crawford, and her character hasn't been written with enough outrage in her role. But we are just 3 episodes in.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Mar 22, 2017 23:21:48 GMT
I would like to see it, as I still don't have the guts to watch the movie. My problem is that the actresses cast are 10 years older than what the originals were. I don't think it will be that convincing for me. Women aged late 60s I think would be over all that sniping and attacking. Believe me, Joan and Bette were both attacking and sniping right up until their deaths. We're talking slightly insane divas.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Mar 27, 2017 2:47:06 GMT
A scene reenacted for tonight's ep:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 3:17:24 GMT
Should I watch it?
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Mar 27, 2017 3:36:05 GMT
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