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Post by Larcen26 on May 23, 2017 20:15:41 GMT
See if Batgirl still comes about. Why wouldn't it? |
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Post by DC-Fan on May 23, 2017 20:48:33 GMT
See if Batgirl still comes about. Why wouldn't it? He's an MCU fan who's hoping that the Batgirl movie won't be made because he's afraid that the DCEU will be the dominant franchise in the CBM genre over the next decade. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 23:11:59 GMT
Wow, I might actually go see it now. Hopefully, Whedon gives it as much of the touch that made The Avengers and Age of Ultron so great as he can. You're so insensitive. In the end, it's just a movie. I gave my respects elsewhere. Now I'm just talking about the impact this will have on the film. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 23, 2017 23:27:02 GMT
The more I think about it, Whedon could really screw the film up. Snyder deserves to take as much time off as he needs, but his style should still be used when he's not actually filming or in on the editing process. Snyder and Whedon are both great filmmakers, but their styles are leaps and bounds different than each other.
The movie could end up being a strange mess of tones and themes as Suicide Squad was. Someone on Snyder's direct team and someone very close to him during the creation of JL should take over.
Again, this is all incredibly trivial compared to what Snyder is going through. I wish him and his family the best.
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Post by Larcen26 on May 23, 2017 23:52:31 GMT
The more I think about it, Whedon could really screw the film up. Snyder deserves to take as much time off as he needs, but his style should still be used when he's not actually filming or in on the editing process. Snyder and Whedon are both great filmmakers, but their styles are leaps and bounds different than each other. The movie could end up being a strange mess of tones and themes as Suicide Squad was. Someone on Snyder's direct team and someone very close to him during the creation of JL should take over. Again, this is all incredibly trivial compared to what Snyder is going through. I wish him and his family the best. Despite the styles, Whedon is a vastly better storyteller and will be able to address story better with reshoots and editing. After all, the major issues with most Snyder films is that they are usually style over story. |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 24, 2017 23:37:42 GMT
He's an MCU fan who's hoping that the Batgirl movie won't be made because he's afraid that the DCEU will be the dominant franchise in the CBM genre over the next decade. Wrong as always. What I'm wondering is if Batgirl was a ruse. Snyder wanted his personal life private and didn't want anything said about why he was stepping down. Maybe they got Whedon to take over for him after his family tragedy, but said that he was working on Batgirl. Whedon's announcement for Batgirl was in the same month (just after) as Snyder's tragedy. But at the same time, it could be that Whedon is taking a break from Batgirl to work on Justice League (rewrites and such). My point is that only time will tell on what is going on. I'm sure you are going to read half of this or you already made up your mind and will just reply with something random. |
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Post by Larcen26 on May 25, 2017 15:35:53 GMT
He's an MCU fan who's hoping that the Batgirl movie won't be made because he's afraid that the DCEU will be the dominant franchise in the CBM genre over the next decade. Wrong as always. What I'm wondering is if Batgirl was a ruse. Snyder wanted his personal life private and didn't want anything said about why he was stepping down. Maybe they got Whedon to take over for him after his family tragedy, but said that he was working on Batgirl. Whedon's announcement for Batgirl was in the same month (just after) as Snyder's tragedy. But at the same time, it could be that Whedon is taking a break from Batgirl to work on Justice League (rewrites and such). My point is that only time will tell on what is going on. I'm sure you are going to read half of this or you already made up your mind and will just reply with something random. What I'm wondering is why you think it's a ruse? Why can't he be doing both? |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 25, 2017 17:36:35 GMT
You're so insensitive. In the end, it's just a movie. I gave my respects elsewhere. Now I'm just talking about the impact this will have on the film. oh sure you did, Raptor. You gave them "elsewhere" and then paraded straight into a thread were people pay their respect for a family suicide to immediately and loudly gloat and pour poison, as you always do. What a pity your "respects" are also not to be found in your posting history, huh Raptor? Or are they, I just found mindless hate, paranoia and ramblings, I would love to see them. |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 25, 2017 18:43:48 GMT
Wrong as always. What I'm wondering is if Batgirl was a ruse. Snyder wanted his personal life private and didn't want anything said about why he was stepping down. Maybe they got Whedon to take over for him after his family tragedy, but said that he was working on Batgirl. Whedon's announcement for Batgirl was in the same month (just after) as Snyder's tragedy. But at the same time, it could be that Whedon is taking a break from Batgirl to work on Justice League (rewrites and such). My point is that only time will tell on what is going on. I'm sure you are going to read half of this or you already made up your mind and will just reply with something random. What I'm wondering is why you think it's a ruse? Why can't he be doing both? It's the timing of it. And it's weird with all that they are doing, they would stop a guy that could possibly make the best DCEU movie to do rewrites and reshoots on another movie. Unless they brought him in to do just that. |
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Post by Jerk on May 25, 2017 18:51:58 GMT
You're so insensitive. In the end, it's just a movie. I gave my respects elsewhere. Now I'm just talking about the impact this will have on the film. That doesn't make you any less of an asshole. |
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Post by brownstones on May 25, 2017 19:00:53 GMT
What I'm wondering is why you think it's a ruse? Why can't he be doing both? It's the timing of it. And it's weird with all that they are doing, they would stop a guy that could possibly make the best DCEU movie to do rewrites and reshoots on another movie. Unless they brought him in to do just that. well zack is pretty open, most say he's quite collaborative, I mean he has Wan working with him on Atlantis/Aquaman centric scenes. i'm guessing that WB and Whedon were in Batgirl talks weeks to likely even months prior to Snyder's family tragedy, and probably discussed if Whedon was open to working with Zack on JL.....again prior to Zack's daughter passing. but again.........maybe we should stop trying to pick this all apart, and simply let it be. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 25, 2017 19:12:36 GMT
I gave my respects elsewhere. Now I'm just talking about the impact this will have on the film. That doesn't make you any less of an asshole. true, also: He's a liar. He essentially is the sociopathic loud mouth at a funeral who starts dissing and attacking the surviving relatives and starts havoc because he has old scores to settle, and then claims he already paid respects elsewhere. Who gives a flying fleck? Per usual, he will try to deflect, cry foul and point fingers at others. It's his character. |
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Post by Jedan Archer on May 25, 2017 19:24:41 GMT
I gave my respects elsewhere. Now I'm just talking about the impact this will have on the film. That doesn't make you any less of an asshole. Well, I guess you guys have never met the infamous weirdraptor from IMDb. He so bad, he is good again. He is essentially the Battlefield Earth, the Uwe Boll of posters, a foul apple you can enjoy, if you manage to keep your distance. Nuff said. |
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Post by Larcen26 on May 25, 2017 19:34:31 GMT
What I'm wondering is why you think it's a ruse? Why can't he be doing both? It's the timing of it. And it's weird with all that they are doing, they would stop a guy that could possibly make the best DCEU movie to do rewrites and reshoots on another movie. Unless they brought him in to do just that. I disagree. Batgirl is in the earliest stages of development right now. If I'm not mistaken he doesn't even have a script yet. He can, without hurting progress on Batgirl even one iota, take on the reshoots and editing of JL. Your conspiracy theory just doesn't add up to me. But I WILL add some flame to it for amusement sake. One one of the last "Fatman on Batman" podcasts, Kevin Smith and Mark Bernardin were discussing the Justice League re-shoots. About 3/4 of the way through Kevin goes..."Wait a minute, they just hired Joss Whedon, why don't they have him take a look and give some input? He is famous for doing that all over Hollywood." This was before the word broke of Snyder stepping down. And now, that podcast has been removed from all locations where it is available. (I am sure that is because, as a father, Kevin wanted to remove any possible glibness he may have shown about the re-shoots, so I still don't buy your conspiracy theory.) |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 25, 2017 19:58:03 GMT
It's the timing of it. And it's weird with all that they are doing, they would stop a guy that could possibly make the best DCEU movie to do rewrites and reshoots on another movie. Unless they brought him in to do just that. well zack is pretty open, most say he's quite collaborative, I mean he has Wan working with him on Atlantis/Aquaman centric scenes. i'm guessing that WB and Whedon were in Batgirl talks weeks to likely even months prior to Snyder's family tragedy, and probably discussed if Whedon was open to working with Zack on JL.....again prior to Zack's daughter passing. but again.........maybe we should stop trying to pick this all apart, and simply let it be. Isn't that because Wan is making the Aquaman movie and they'd want some kind of continuity between them. Especially since they are basically making the 2 movies near the same time. They'd want to work together on how Atlantis, and probably the swimming, would look and feel. And it's not me trying to pick it apart. Just something that came to mind that I brought forth. It could be the behind-the-scenes goings on to keep things private and could also be the furthest thing from what is actually going on. And it's not about Snyder being collaborative. The Snyders stepped down to be with their family. Whedon is finishing the movie (rewrites and reshoots because of a test screening). |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 25, 2017 20:06:35 GMT
It's the timing of it. And it's weird with all that they are doing, they would stop a guy that could possibly make the best DCEU movie to do rewrites and reshoots on another movie. Unless they brought him in to do just that. I disagree. Batgirl is in the earliest stages of development right now. If I'm not mistaken he doesn't even have a script yet. He can, without hurting progress on Batgirl even one iota, take on the reshoots and editing of JL. Your conspiracy theory just doesn't add up to me. But I WILL add some flame to it for amusement sake. One one of the last "Fatman on Batman" podcasts, Kevin Smith and Mark Bernardin were discussing the Justice League re-shoots. About 3/4 of the way through Kevin goes..."Wait a minute, they just hired Joss Whedon, why don't they have him take a look and give some input? He is famous for doing that all over Hollywood." This was before the word broke of Snyder stepping down. And now, that podcast has been removed from all locations where it is available. (I am sure that is because, as a father, Kevin wanted to remove any possible glibness he may have shown about the re-shoots, so I still don't buy your conspiracy theory.) He's not just doing reshoots. He's also doing rewrites. Now he has to make changes to the story (major or minor, we don't know) and then get people back together to do the reshoots. It's not a matter of doing it in a few days. That's stopping what he was doing on Batgirl and concentrating on Justice League. That could probably keep him busy until the movie opens. That could be almost 6 months of him doing Justice League stuff and not Batgirl stuff. Hell, the Batgirl movie could change in that time because of what he's doing on Justice League to a totally different story. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 21:00:49 GMT
Well, here's the thing. Now that there's an actual filmmaker helming the film, Whedon will notice all the shortcomings during the Editor's Cut (the lack of a story, a complete lack of sensible character motivations, and so on, since Snyder films tend to lack anything resembling proper storytelling) and there will be reshoots to improve the final product. And WB being "meddle with it in Post-happy" as they are, will go along with it. ^What an asshole. The guy is grieving and all you care about is a stupid movie. WR is a complete moron. |
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Post by Larcen26 on May 25, 2017 21:29:25 GMT
I disagree. Batgirl is in the earliest stages of development right now. If I'm not mistaken he doesn't even have a script yet. He can, without hurting progress on Batgirl even one iota, take on the reshoots and editing of JL. Your conspiracy theory just doesn't add up to me. But I WILL add some flame to it for amusement sake. One one of the last "Fatman on Batman" podcasts, Kevin Smith and Mark Bernardin were discussing the Justice League re-shoots. About 3/4 of the way through Kevin goes..."Wait a minute, they just hired Joss Whedon, why don't they have him take a look and give some input? He is famous for doing that all over Hollywood." This was before the word broke of Snyder stepping down. And now, that podcast has been removed from all locations where it is available. (I am sure that is because, as a father, Kevin wanted to remove any possible glibness he may have shown about the re-shoots, so I still don't buy your conspiracy theory.) He's not just doing reshoots. He's also doing rewrites. Now he has to make changes to the story (major or minor, we don't know) and then get people back together to do the reshoots. It's not a matter of doing it in a few days. That's stopping what he was doing on Batgirl and concentrating on Justice League. That could probably keep him busy until the movie opens. That could be almost 6 months of him doing Justice League stuff and not Batgirl stuff. Hell, the Batgirl movie could change in that time because of what he's doing on Justice League to a totally different story. But I still don't see why you think it's a conspiracy |
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Post by brownstones on May 25, 2017 21:37:54 GMT
well zack is pretty open, most say he's quite collaborative, I mean he has Wan working with him on Atlantis/Aquaman centric scenes. i'm guessing that WB and Whedon were in Batgirl talks weeks to likely even months prior to Snyder's family tragedy, and probably discussed if Whedon was open to working with Zack on JL.....again prior to Zack's daughter passing. but again.........maybe we should stop trying to pick this all apart, and simply let it be. Isn't that because Wan is making the Aquaman movie and they'd want some kind of continuity between them. Especially since they are basically making the 2 movies near the same time. They'd want to work together on how Atlantis, and probably the swimming, would look and feel. And it's not me trying to pick it apart. Just something that came to mind that I brought forth. It could be the behind-the-scenes goings on to keep things private and could also be the furthest thing from what is actually going on. And it's not about Snyder being collaborative. The Snyders stepped down to be with their family. Whedon is finishing the movie (rewrites and reshoots because of a test screening). whedon was initially on for rewrites but that turned into helming reshoots. |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 25, 2017 22:22:33 GMT
He's not just doing reshoots. He's also doing rewrites. Now he has to make changes to the story (major or minor, we don't know) and then get people back together to do the reshoots. It's not a matter of doing it in a few days. That's stopping what he was doing on Batgirl and concentrating on Justice League. That could probably keep him busy until the movie opens. That could be almost 6 months of him doing Justice League stuff and not Batgirl stuff. Hell, the Batgirl movie could change in that time because of what he's doing on Justice League to a totally different story. But I still don't see why you think it's a conspiracy No one is saying conspiracy. It was Snyder that said he wanted it to be private. So they did something to keep it private. That's all good. He needs his privacy. It's his family. |
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