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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 13:56:07 GMT
tpfkar No, Amack, I noted your incessant holding her in front of you as some kind of excuse for rabid, unreasonded lying. And I'm pretty sure the posts here like many of yours on these boards conspicuously highlight who the one with the relevant grey matter deficiencies is. bayed bullsh!t on repeat
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Post by clusium on May 23, 2017 14:11:32 GMT
I can imagine your blood must boiling over this!!!! Words escape me. It's not as if most of us couldn't see this coming for a while Clusium. They arrested a Muslim terrorist a stones throw from my house a couple of months ago that was just one of dozens of arrests related to Muslim extremism in Manchester over the last few years. Those of us who have been trying to draw attention to the very real dangers of increasing the Muslim population in the UK have been proven right the apologists have been proven wrong. I don't want any more Muslims in the UK,and this doesn't just relate to terrorism there social attitudes are largely incompatible with western secular values,they are intolerant and bigoted. It's now become time to have a national debate about Islam and its place in the UK. We will bury our dead children and grieve and to the Muslim apologists you will no longer keep us silent. This exactly why Donald Trump wanted to put a ban on people from Muslim countries entering the USA, & yet the man has received nothing but abuse, since entering office. Now I'm a Canadian (of British descent & even have duo nationality with the UK, btw), so its not really my right for me to tell the Americans who to have as their president, but, he got democratically voted in. Let him do his 4 years in office, & see how they go. If he turns out to be a bad president, then vote for the next candidate. And if he gets in again, well, he only has a maximum of 8 years in office anyway!!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 14:16:57 GMT
tpfkar No, Amack, I noted your incessant holding her in front of you as some kind of excuse for rabid, unreasonded lying. And I'm pretty sure the posts here like many of yours on these boards conspicuously highlight who the one with the relevant grey matter deficiencies is. bayed bullsh!t on repeatYou keep calling me a liar and yet produce no evidence of me doing so. What you call an excuse I call a reason for my position,I know caring about others and them influencing your views is an abstract concept for you but trust me it's a key factor in my and most other peoples thought process.
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 14:22:30 GMT
tpfkar You can continue to be as delusional as you like, as it's been highlighted multiple times in this very thread. Psychos usually do try to call up down with some frequency. And believe me, I know that raw unreasoning emotion has been a prime factor is some of the most horrific behaviors of all time. bayed bullsh!t on repeat
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Post by The Lost One on May 23, 2017 14:35:55 GMT
I felt physically sick reading about this this morning, what kind of sicko targets kids just wanting to enjoy a pop concert? This world is a truly horrible place at times.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 14:39:25 GMT
Words escape me. It's not as if most of us couldn't see this coming for a while Clusium. They arrested a Muslim terrorist a stones throw from my house a couple of months ago that was just one of dozens of arrests related to Muslim extremism in Manchester over the last few years. Those of us who have been trying to draw attention to the very real dangers of increasing the Muslim population in the UK have been proven right the apologists have been proven wrong. I don't want any more Muslims in the UK,and this doesn't just relate to terrorism there social attitudes are largely incompatible with western secular values,they are intolerant and bigoted. It's now become time to have a national debate about Islam and its place in the UK. We will bury our dead children and grieve and to the Muslim apologists you will no longer keep us silent. This exactly why Donald Trump wanted to put a ban on people from Muslim countries entering the USA, & yet the man has received nothing but abuse, since entering office. Now I'm a Canadian (of British descent & even have duo nationality with the UK, btw), so its not really my right for me to tell the Americans who to have as their president, but, he got democratically voted in. Let him do his 4 years in office, & see how they go. If he turns out to be a bad president, then vote for the next candidate. And if he gets in again, well, he only has a maximum of 8 years in office anyway!! I won't say to much about Trump other than he's a fool and I wouldn't want him in charge of the UK. I'm not talking about a Muslim travel ban in the UK from certain countries,I'm talking about a ban on Muslims entering the UK except in exceptional circumstances. It's time we labelled Islam for what it is,a barbaric ideology that promotes oppression,hatred of others and violence. Increasing their number will not only increase the terrorist threat but allow misogynistic,homophobic bigots to propagate their hatreds under the cloak of Islam. We have a choice to make in this country do we allow our tolerance and compassion of inferior cultures to be our undoing or do we stand firm and make it clear to Muslims and others that their attitudes and prejudices have no place in secular European democracies. And if they don't heed that lesson then harsh measures may be necessary.
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 14:58:14 GMT
tpfkar Why don't you go for a policy many more could get behind, required acceptance of secular values. As long as it's not just a cynical rename for targeting Muslims, akin to "Intelligent Design" for "Creationism". If people can't sign on then they don't get in, and if they show they're not, after they get in, they get removed. There is a serious problem within the Muslim Asian community when it comes to the sexual abuse of young girls(mainly white).
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 15:01:36 GMT
tpfkar He should be the next Pope!! If other monotheistic religions do it, it obviously means that it is not breaking the First Commandment to do so. We have far more reason to honour the Blessed Virgin Mary, than Muslims do Muhammad, & yet, most Protestant divisions barely pay any lip service to her, whatsoever.
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Post by tickingmask on May 23, 2017 15:02:28 GMT
I don't want any more Muslims in the UK The guys who do this are British born and bred, who might not even have been born Muslim. So if you think that banning Muslims from entering the UK is the best way to reduce the number of attacks of this kind, you are likely to be disappointed.
Every tiny detail of the perpetrator's life has to be scrutinised to find out how they got radicalised, so that those responsible can be made to face the same charges as if they had carried out the act themselves. Will moaning about Muslims in general help with this process? I don't think it will.
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Post by clusium on May 23, 2017 15:13:19 GMT
tpfkar He should be the next Pope!! If other monotheistic religions do it, it obviously means that it is not breaking the First Commandment to do so. We have far more reason to honour the Blessed Virgin Mary, than Muslims do Muhammad, & yet, most Protestant divisions barely pay any lip service to her, whatsoever.Except for the fact that a)he's not even Catholic, & b)he's married; not even a priest.
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Post by clusium on May 23, 2017 15:14:54 GMT
tpfkar Why don't you go for a policy many more could get behind, required acceptance of secular values. As long as it's not just a cynical rename for targeting Muslims, akin to "Intelligent Design" for "Creationism". If people can't sign on then they don't get in, and if they show they're not, after they get in, they get removed. There is a serious problem within the Muslim Asian community when it comes to the sexual abuse of young girls(mainly white).That's Communism. It would infringe on the rights of those that are religious. Not just Christians or Muslims, but, ALL religions. Eg: Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Taoists, etc.
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 15:15:37 GMT
tpfkar Deep thots. fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and Monkeydoctor
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 15:18:26 GMT
tpfkar Not letting in gay- & women-persecuting theocracy-desiring prospective immigrants is "Communism"? Is that just the go-to bugaboo for the slow moving? I suppose you are the type of person who believe Adolf Hitler was an altruist then, if you think Mother Teresa was evil.
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Post by Moviefan on May 23, 2017 15:18:52 GMT
Such an awful tragedy. My condolences to those who lost loved ones.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 23, 2017 15:22:57 GMT
How should they be motored? Does he want to give them motorcars, or just motorcycles, or what?
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 15:27:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 15:27:54 GMT
I don't want any more Muslims in the UK The guys who do this are British born and bred, who might not even have been born Muslim. So if you think that banning Muslims from entering the UK is the best way to reduce the number of attacks of this kind, you are likely to be disappointed.
Every tiny detail of the perpetrator's life has to be scrutinised to find out how they got radicalised, so that those responsible can be made to face the same charges as if they had carried out the act themselves. Will moaning about Muslims in general help with this process? I don't think it will Of course it's possible the Manchester bomber could be born and bred in the UK,just think if we'd been more careful which Muslim countries we took immigrants from a generation ago we may have nipped this problem in the bud decades ago. And if we are more restrictive about the Muslims we let in today perhaps our children won't have to face this threat tomorrow. And even if this guy wasn't born a Muslim this issue is bigger than just him,most Muslims terrorists are born and bred Muslims. So tell me TM is increasing the Muslim population in the UK going to increase or decrease the chance of more terrorist attacks? Myself I think France answers that question. If you think raising the very real fears of what an increased Muslim population does to the safety of myself and family constitutes moaning then I disagree. When an explosion rattles the windows of the room where your child sleeps perhaps you'll understand my concerns.
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Post by PanLeo on May 23, 2017 15:35:24 GMT
The guys who do this are British born and bred, who might not even have been born Muslim. So if you think that banning Muslims from entering the UK is the best way to reduce the number of attacks of this kind, you are likely to be disappointed.
Every tiny detail of the perpetrator's life has to be scrutinised to find out how they got radicalised, so that those responsible can be made to face the same charges as if they had carried out the act themselves. Will moaning about Muslims in general help with this process? I don't think it will Of course it's possible the Manchester bomber could be born and bred in the UK,just think if we'd been more careful which Muslim countries we took immigrants from a generation ago we may have nipped this problem in the bud decades ago. And if we are more restrictive about the Muslims we let in today perhaps our children won't have to face this threat tomorrow. And even if this guy wasn't born a Muslim this issue is bigger than just him,most Muslims terrorists are born and bred Muslims. So tell me TM is increasing the Muslim population in the UK going to increase or decrease the chance of more terrorist attacks? Myself I think France answers that question. If you think raising the very real fears of what an increased Muslim population does to the safety of myself and family constitutes moaning then I disagree. When an explosion rattles the windows of the room where your child sleeps perhaps you'll understand my concerns. Don't use children as an excuse for xenophobia.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 15:39:36 GMT
Of course it's possible the Manchester bomber could be born and bred in the UK,just think if we'd been more careful which Muslim countries we took immigrants from a generation ago we may have nipped this problem in the bud decades ago. And if we are more restrictive about the Muslims we let in today perhaps our children won't have to face this threat tomorrow. And even if this guy wasn't born a Muslim this issue is bigger than just him,most Muslims terrorists are born and bred Muslims. So tell me TM is increasing the Muslim population in the UK going to increase or decrease the chance of more terrorist attacks? Myself I think France answers that question. If you think raising the very real fears of what an increased Muslim population does to the safety of myself and family constitutes moaning then I disagree. When an explosion rattles the windows of the room where your child sleeps perhaps you'll understand my concerns. Don't use children as an excuse for xenophobia Fuck off pedo troll I'm not in the mood for your click bait bullshit today. And you mentioning my child makes me want to vomit.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 23, 2017 15:41:26 GMT
The guys who do this are British born and bred, who might not even have been born Muslim. So if you think that banning Muslims from entering the UK is the best way to reduce the number of attacks of this kind, you are likely to be disappointed.
Every tiny detail of the perpetrator's life has to be scrutinised to find out how they got radicalised, so that those responsible can be made to face the same charges as if they had carried out the act themselves. Will moaning about Muslims in general help with this process? I don't think it will Of course it's possible the Manchester bomber could be born and bred in the UK,just think if we'd been more careful which Muslim countries we took immigrants from a generation ago we may have nipped this problem in the bud decades ago. And if we are more restrictive about the Muslims we let in today perhaps our children won't have to face this threat tomorrow. And even if this guy wasn't born a Muslim this issue is bigger than just him,most Muslims terrorists are born and bred Muslims. So tell me TM is increasing the Muslim population in the UK going to increase or decrease the chance of more terrorist attacks? Myself I think France answers that question. If you think raising the very real fears of what an increased Muslim population does to the safety of myself and family constitutes moaning then I disagree. When an explosion rattles the windows of the room where your child sleeps perhaps you'll understand my concerns. Nah, cucpcakes answered the question. Motor them. Motor the bastards! Maybe some Toyota trucks like my country furnished to ISIS would suffice.
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