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Post by phludowin on May 23, 2017 21:20:43 GMT
More pathetic Islam apologetics from you Heinz. But why am I not surprised? No Islam apologetics from me. Why am I not surprised by your lies? Oh yes: The last time we interacted you more or less admitted that you wanted to prohibit abortion. And when I asked you if this was motivated because of your religion, you did not deny it. In other words, you want to implement the Christian equivalent of Sharia law. Maybe I was wrong when I said on that thread that Islam was more evil than Christianity... |
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 21:21:01 GMT
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Post by PanLeo on May 23, 2017 21:35:08 GMT
The first two are not terrorist attacks and the IRA were not religiously motivated. The first two were not labeled terrorist attacks; as far as I'm concerned it's just semantics. And speaking about motivations: Do we already know the motivations of the Manchester killer? Was it Islamism; or was he a lonely MRA with a crush on Ariana Grande? A few weeks ago there was a bomb attack in Germany, on the football team of Borussia Dortmund. Shortly after, social media filled with comments against Merkel's immigration politics; because lots of people assumed it was an Islamist attack. And then, it turned out that the perpetrator was a white non-Muslim European who had acted out of greed. He wanted to disrupt the stock market. I'll reserve judgments about the Manchester bomber's motivations until I know the facts. We're talking about suicide bombings here. How many non-Islamic related suicide bombers have you heard of? |
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Post by thorshairspray on May 23, 2017 21:35:11 GMT
So you just skip the part where you're ignorant about a topic and fling out an assertion based on what? Who did Belgium engage in a territorial death dance with? Or Serbia? Or Denmark, or Sweden? |
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 21:35:23 GMT
tpfkar  Why do you call him Heinz?
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 21:44:28 GMT
tpfkar All of those guys with the Germans, I guess.  Damn, how ignorant do you have to be to not know that. And some neighborhoods, some publishers offices, and maybe some NATO bootprints. Like you Trumpians, "the West" likely looks all the same to them.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 23, 2017 21:48:46 GMT
tpfkar All of those guys with the Germans, I guess. Damn, how ignorant do you have to be to not know that. And some neighborhoods, some publishers offices, and maybe some NATO bootprints. Like you Trumpians, "the West" likely looks all the same to them.
loves me some nazi pug guySo you can't support your claim. It would have been less embarrassing for you to simply say that. |
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 21:49:56 GMT
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Post by thorshairspray on May 23, 2017 21:53:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 21:54:38 GMT
So far you've done nothing but on this thread. "What happened in Manchester was terrible and is not to be excused; but it should not be a reason to lie, just because you don't like Islam.""Do we already know the motivations of the Manchester killer? Was it Islamism; or was he a lonely MRA with a crush on Ariana Grande?"Yes because being against the taking of innocent lives is in the same league as executing apostates and homosexuals, stoning adulteress and chopping off the limbs of thieves. You are one fucking hopeless fool, Heinz. My friend it was about the only thing you got right in that entire thread. |
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 21:58:55 GMT
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Post by phludowin on May 23, 2017 22:24:49 GMT
"What happened in Manchester was terrible and is not to be excused; but it should not be a reason to lie, just because you don't like Islam.""Do we already know the motivations of the Manchester killer? Was it Islamism; or was he a lonely MRA with a crush on Ariana Grande?" Both quotes don't make apologies for Islam. Thanks for proving my point. Fixed it for you. And indeed it is. |
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Post by phludowin on May 23, 2017 22:33:03 GMT
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Post by clusium on May 23, 2017 22:35:37 GMT
The Troubles in Northern Ireland were more politically motivated, than they were religious. Even if the Protestant Reformation never happened, the problems in NI probably would have still occurred. The IRA, Sinn Fein, (admittedly Catholic), etc., want Northern Ireland to be reunited with the Republic of Ireland, while Protestants in NI want it to remain part of the UK. |
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 22:42:26 GMT
tpfkar Sounds legit.
I suppose you are the type of person who believe Adolf Hitler was an altruist then, if you think Mother Teresa was evil. |
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Post by phludowin on May 23, 2017 22:43:38 GMT
The Unionist - Loyalist conflict in Ulster was not a religious one. The division was along religious lines, largely because the Protestants were of British descent and maintained loyalty to the British Crown, whilst the Catholics were of Irish descent, but the conflict and motivations were political. Maybe the Northern Ireland conflicts were more political than religious; but then, are the Islamist terrorist acts more religiously or politically motivated? I don't know. But I know that the IS and Al-Qaeda have used both religious and political "reasons" for the terrorist acts. I am putting "reasons" in quotation marks, because reason and fanatism are not really compatible in my opinion. But I admit that the religious angle is more visible in the Islamist terrorist acts than it was in Northern Ireland. |
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Post by clusium on May 23, 2017 22:47:16 GMT
tpfkar Sounds legit.
I suppose you are the type of person who believe Adolf Hitler was an altruist then, if you think Mother Teresa was evil.Glad you agree. |
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Post by cupcakes on May 23, 2017 22:48:58 GMT
tpfkar  I don't; you either don't know or claim not to know the meaning of a common sarcastic phrase.
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Post by clusium on May 23, 2017 22:53:11 GMT
The Unionist - Loyalist conflict in Ulster was not a religious one. The division was along religious lines, largely because the Protestants were of British descent and maintained loyalty to the British Crown, whilst the Catholics were of Irish descent, but the conflict and motivations were political. Maybe the Northern Ireland conflicts were more political than religious; but then, are the Islamist terrorist acts more religiously or politically motivated? I don't know. But I know that the IS and Al-Qaeda have used both religious and political "reasons" for the terrorist acts. I am putting "reasons" in quotation marks, because reason and fanatism are not really compatible in my opinion. But I admit that the religious angle is more visible in the Islamist terrorist acts than it was in Northern Ireland. While yes, one's religious views can & do effect one's political views, however, how much of a role did Christianity really play in the Troubles in Norther Ireland? Did either side believe they were serving Christ in what they were doing? Or did they believe they were serving their Nation? ISIS(aka ISIL), Hamas, al Qaida, Boko Haram, etc., all believe that they are serving Allah, by these killings (even though God Specifically Said " Thou shalt not Kill"). Do you believe that these terrorists would commit these atrocities, were their victims all Wahhabi Muslims? |
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Post by clusium on May 23, 2017 22:54:14 GMT
tpfkar I don't; you either don't know or claim not to know the meaning of a common sarcastic phrase.
fellow intelligent posters, like Ada and MonkeydoctorAnd you clearly do not recognize a common sarcastic response.  |
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