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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Feb 7, 2022 23:18:53 GMT
Kyler has removed all Cardinals photos from his social media accounts and unfollowed the team on Instagram
What exactly does this mean folks?
From what I can see - he has 1 year left on his deal
Think he wants it reworked?
Is a holdout on the horizon?
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Post by stickman38 on Feb 8, 2022 1:54:59 GMT
Probably just sour grapes for the egg he laid in the playoffs. He can only blame himself. That was one pitiful performance.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 8, 2022 2:27:45 GMT
if he leaves then yikes here.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Feb 8, 2022 16:36:16 GMT
It’s likely nothing, I can’t imagine him refusing to play for the Cards.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 8, 2022 17:03:23 GMT
they must have yelled at him for that dumbass pick 6
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Feb 14, 2022 8:24:45 GMT
Per Christ Mortenson and the Mort Report (ESPN) -
Trouble in Paradise
'The odd vibe between the @azcardinals and Kyler Murray is indeed alarming: Murray is described as self-centered, immature and finger pointer, per sources. Murray is frustrated with franchise and was embarrassed by playoff loss to Rams and thinks he’s been framed as the scapegoat.'
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 14, 2022 16:29:29 GMT
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Post by Xeliou66 on Feb 14, 2022 16:57:04 GMT
The Cards would be epically stupid to let Murray slip away from them, he’s a promising young QB who just led them to the playoffs, there are a lot of teams in the NFL who would be thrilled to have him. I don’t know what is going on behind the scenes there but the Cards should do their best not to alienate him.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 14, 2022 17:08:28 GMT
The Cards would be epically stupid to let Murray slip away from them, he’s a promising young QB who just led them to the playoffs, there are a lot of teams in the NFL who would be thrilled to have him. I don’t know what is going on behind the scenes there but the Cards should do their best not to alienate him. agreed, some players are worth coddling
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Feb 14, 2022 17:13:35 GMT
The Cards would be epically stupid to let Murray slip away from them, he’s a promising young QB who just led them to the playoffs, there are a lot of teams in the NFL who would be thrilled to have him. I don’t know what is going on behind the scenes there but the Cards should do their best not to alienate him. agreed, some players are worth coddling Agreed.
Like Ben Simmons.
I would have had no problem if the Sixers did this to Ben - (I'm not complaining about getting James Harden though and our 3 straight titles coming)
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 14, 2022 17:25:49 GMT
agreed, some players are worth coddling Agreed.
Like Ben Simmons. i was actually thinking of him when i wrote that, lol
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Post by stickman38 on Feb 14, 2022 17:43:40 GMT
The Cards would be epically stupid to let Murray slip away from them, he’s a promising young QB who just led them to the playoffs, there are a lot of teams in the NFL who would be thrilled to have him. I don’t know what is going on behind the scenes there but the Cards should do their best not to alienate him.
He's been on this team for 3 seasons now, all they've gotten out of him is one playoff game and in that one game his performance was pretty bad. Sure, he has potential but he's definitely got to show them something next season or I would be looking to trade him, especially if the rumors are true. If he really is a finger pointer, they probably need to get rid of him now.
Did you watch that post game presser from Joe Burrow? He pinned the loss on himself rather than blaming others. That's what a QB does, they don't throw anyone under the bus.
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Post by mtbg on Feb 14, 2022 18:01:40 GMT
The Cards would be epically stupid to let Murray slip away from them, he’s a promising young QB who just led them to the playoffs, there are a lot of teams in the NFL who would be thrilled to have him. I don’t know what is going on behind the scenes there but the Cards should do their best not to alienate him.
He's been on this team for 3 seasons now, all they've gotten out of him is one playoff game and in that one game his performance was pretty bad. Sure, he has potential but he's definitely got to show them something next season or I would be looking to trade him, especially if the rumors are true. If he really is a finger pointer, they probably need to get rid of him now.
Did you watch that post game presser from Joe Burrow? He pinned the loss on himself rather than blaming others. That's what a QB does, they don't throw anyone under the bus.
Agreed. I was thinking about the Burrow comparison too. Not only did he take the blame for the loss in the post conference, all game long as he's getting destroyed he never looks frustrated with his shit OL. His body language never looks like he's upset. Guys want to play for a guy like that. With Murray, it's the opposite. He doesn't have positive body language. He also seems like he can't play unless 100% healthy. If he's dinged up, he loses effectiveness dramatically. The last 2 years he started off on fire then his play went downhill after that. The team is saying he's immature and the fact that he removed everything Cardinals from his social media page pretty much proves that. The guy has skills but seems too much of a drama queen to me.
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Post by stickman38 on Feb 14, 2022 18:12:32 GMT
He's been on this team for 3 seasons now, all they've gotten out of him is one playoff game and in that one game his performance was pretty bad. Sure, he has potential but he's definitely got to show them something next season or I would be looking to trade him, especially if the rumors are true. If he really is a finger pointer, they probably need to get rid of him now.
Did you watch that post game presser from Joe Burrow? He pinned the loss on himself rather than blaming others. That's what a QB does, they don't throw anyone under the bus.
Agreed. I was thinking about the Burrow comparison too. Not only did he take the blame for the loss in the post conference, all game long as he's getting destroyed he never looks frustrated with his shit OL. His body language never looks like he's upset. Guys want to play for a guy like that. With Murray, it's the opposite. He doesn't have positive body language. He also seems like he can't play unless 100% healthy. If he's dinged up, he loses effectiveness dramatically. The last 2 years he started off on fire then his play went downhill after that. The team is saying he's immature and the fact that he removed everything Cardinals from his social media page pretty much proves that. The guy has skills but seems too much of a drama queen to me.
Yep, which reminds me of one play that I think was in that Cards playoff game. It was a long pass somewhere between the right hash mark and the numbers, and it looked like the receiver didn't even make a play on it and it turned out to be an incomplete pass.
I can't remember for sure if it was the Cards game or a different one but I was thinking... wow... that guy must not like his QB. The commentator said something about it too. Could have been a different game though... idk.
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Post by mtbg on Feb 14, 2022 18:18:13 GMT
Agreed. I was thinking about the Burrow comparison too. Not only did he take the blame for the loss in the post conference, all game long as he's getting destroyed he never looks frustrated with his shit OL. His body language never looks like he's upset. Guys want to play for a guy like that. With Murray, it's the opposite. He doesn't have positive body language. He also seems like he can't play unless 100% healthy. If he's dinged up, he loses effectiveness dramatically. The last 2 years he started off on fire then his play went downhill after that. The team is saying he's immature and the fact that he removed everything Cardinals from his social media page pretty much proves that. The guy has skills but seems too much of a drama queen to me.
Yep, which reminds me of one play that I think was in that Cards playoff game. It was a long pass somewhere between the right hash mark and the numbers, and it looked like the receiver didn't even make a play on it and it turned out to be an incomplete pass.
I can't remember for sure if it was the Cards game or a different one but I was thinking... wow... that guy must not like his QB. The commentator said something about it too. Could have been a different game though... idk.
Yeah, I think that was AJ Green on the play you are thinking of.
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Post by stickman38 on Feb 14, 2022 21:08:53 GMT
Well, this is Murray's post game presser after the playoff loss to the Rams. He actually sounds okay and did put some heat on himself for the loss. So I don't know what happened between this and when he unfriended the Cards.
weird....
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 14, 2022 22:20:01 GMT
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Post by hi224 on Feb 14, 2022 22:50:50 GMT
The Cards would be epically stupid to let Murray slip away from them, he’s a promising young QB who just led them to the playoffs, there are a lot of teams in the NFL who would be thrilled to have him. I don’t know what is going on behind the scenes there but the Cards should do their best not to alienate him.
He's been on this team for 3 seasons now, all they've gotten out of him is one playoff game and in that one game his performance was pretty bad. Sure, he has potential but he's definitely got to show them something next season or I would be looking to trade him, especially if the rumors are true. If he really is a finger pointer, they probably need to get rid of him now.
Did you watch that post game presser from Joe Burrow? He pinned the loss on himself rather than blaming others. That's what a QB does, they don't throw anyone under the bus.
I find your stance on racism and sexism questionable usually, but your very spot on here, I mean he has major character issues which is a byproduct of both his upbringing and unwillingness to really progress his game at all, flip him now and maybe go after Jimmy G or another QB as well.
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Post by stickman38 on Feb 14, 2022 23:45:31 GMT
He's been on this team for 3 seasons now, all they've gotten out of him is one playoff game and in that one game his performance was pretty bad. Sure, he has potential but he's definitely got to show them something next season or I would be looking to trade him, especially if the rumors are true. If he really is a finger pointer, they probably need to get rid of him now.
Did you watch that post game presser from Joe Burrow? He pinned the loss on himself rather than blaming others. That's what a QB does, they don't throw anyone under the bus.
I find your stance on racism and sexism questionable usually, but your very spot on here, I mean he has major character issues which is a byproduct of both his upbringing and unwillingness to really progress his game at all, flip him now and maybe go after Jimmy G or another QB as well. Sexism? I don't think I've made any comments about sexism and my comments on racism are strictly based on my personal view, I've never doubted racism exists, I just don't allow the media to manipulate my opinions on it.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 15, 2022 0:00:46 GMT
He's been on this team for 3 seasons now, all they've gotten out of him is one playoff game and in that one game his performance was pretty bad. Sure, he has potential but he's definitely got to show them something next season or I would be looking to trade him, especially if the rumors are true. If he really is a finger pointer, they probably need to get rid of him now.
Did you watch that post game presser from Joe Burrow? He pinned the loss on himself rather than blaming others. That's what a QB does, they don't throw anyone under the bus.
I find your stance on racism and sexism questionable usually, but your very spot on here, I mean he has major character issues which is a byproduct of both his upbringing and unwillingness to really progress his game at all, flip him now and maybe go after Jimmy G or another QB as well. The Cardinals are a team that's built to win now. I don't think Jimmy G is the answer. If Murray is hell bent on leaving, then I think Arizona might have to set their sights high. Russell Wilson, DeShaun Watson, maybe outbidding GB for Mr MVP? Been seeing rumors (probably horseshit) that Andrew Luck might be coming back.
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