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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 11, 2022 5:01:01 GMT
Well, first episode & the cast frankly, were better than the teasers for this thing.
Drea I'll root for to start, she seems the best IQ EQ combo... I'm bias towards the ones who seem least unhinged.
Shoulder dislocation & going home because medication were interesting side notes. I do think this season could be good with a lot of underdog'ish players.
I'm liking Jeff throwing S41 meta at the players 'Viewers saw this on S41 but you guys haven't watched it yet!'
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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 26, 2022 15:02:53 GMT
For the first time ever, a challenge had to be stopped & reset. Huge forceful waves were too much for a ladder in the ocean task... with exhausted contestants. Ironically, also the single most physically dominating performance during that same challenge - 1 tribe (of the 3) had a guy plow through it all with a ton of time to spare... carrying his team through the waves on his own.
Tribal had 2 ppl unable to vote. 2-2 tie. Ppl wondered why there weren't more votes. The 2 hidden unables had to divulge & why. Then the 2 remaining able voters had to either decide 2-0 or the 4 ppl had to draw rocks (1 white, 3 black) to randomly send someone home. Crazy. lols They reluctantly chose someone 2-0.
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Post by forca84 on Mar 26, 2022 19:26:02 GMT
I never watched this show until last year... I watched a few seasons but got a bit bored with it. But who knows. I may binge another season one of these days on streaming.
Didn't realize several contestants had died over the years... But I guess it's not that surprising.
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Post by Marv on Mar 29, 2022 3:38:47 GMT
I liked Chanelle and Daniel up until this past episode where both looked like massive morons. Lol.
So far it's been fine. The cast is pretty likeable for the most part. Tho the lack of actual physical members I think is already obvious. If the challenges remain normally physical I think we'll continue to see a great deal of suffering. Normally they cast at least a few athletic types but they went way too far the other way this season imo.
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Post by Marv on Mar 29, 2022 3:40:56 GMT
I never watched this show until last year... I watched a few seasons but got a bit bored with it. But who knows. I may binge another season one of these days on streaming. Didn't realize several contestants had died over the years... But I guess it's not that surprising. Quite a list by this point but yea. Some expected like Rudy, who was old in the first season...but others not so expected like Caleb, who worked in a railyard and got crushed by a train. I did a rewatch of most of the seasons the past 2 years, many during the covid lockdowns. Theyre fun but yea they do eventually start to blend together and feel the same if you watch them too close together.
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Post by onethreetwo on Mar 29, 2022 3:41:11 GMT
I like the big guy on the orange team who won the whole challenge by himself lol. And the hot blonde on the blue team. But I like the other orange team members. I'm definitely team orange.
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Post by Marv on Mar 29, 2022 3:48:20 GMT
I like the big guy on the orange team who won the whole challenge by himself lol. And the hot blonde on the blue team. But I like the other orange team members. I'm definitely team orange. Jonathan is definitely the most likeable for me so far. I don't expect him to win tho because he's the obvious physical threat so the first chance they get they'll vote him out. Unless he gives them no chance, which Im hopeful for. The orange tribe is definitely the best so far. Green is a mess after last episode. Blue feels the least developed at the moment. But theres still time.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 29, 2022 22:01:49 GMT
I liked Chanelle and Daniel up until this past episode where both looked like massive morons. Lol. So far it's been fine. The cast is pretty likeable for the most part. Tho the lack of actual physical members I think is already obvious. If the challenges remain normally physical I think we'll continue to see a great deal of suffering. Normally they cast at least a few athletic types but they went way too far the other way this season imo. The physicality is fine, they're doing 26 days, max, instead of the original 39 days they did until S40. S43 is when players will have seen these 2 harder, shorter seasons & be more prepared for no rice or fire.
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Post by Marv on Mar 29, 2022 22:11:59 GMT
I liked Chanelle and Daniel up until this past episode where both looked like massive morons. Lol. So far it's been fine. The cast is pretty likeable for the most part. Tho the lack of actual physical members I think is already obvious. If the challenges remain normally physical I think we'll continue to see a great deal of suffering. Normally they cast at least a few athletic types but they went way too far the other way this season imo. The physicality is fine, they're doing 26 days, max, instead of the original 39 days they did until S40. S43 is when players will have seen these 2 harder, shorter seasons & be more prepared for no rice or fire. I mean physicality in relation to challenges rather than duration. Usually there’s more than one obvious physical threat/strong person amongst the cast but this season the closest second to Jonathan is Rocksroy and he’s in his 50s I think. Also the more difficult season rhetoric has been debunked already. These aren’t the first seasons where tribes have started without rice or food or fire. Tho the timeline is surely more condensed. Im not convinced these two seasons are any harder than Season 5 or whichever one had everyone passing out.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 2, 2022 4:14:29 GMT
I think I'm ready for the merge already. The petty drama stuff with the 2 loser tribes isn't great tv... via some pretty amateurish play no less. These ppl are Survivor fans & viewers?? Wow.
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Post by Marv on Apr 7, 2022 11:42:02 GMT
Episode 5...the right person went home. Not sure what Channelle was doing with that vote. Mike is probably the only person on her tribe that she could've won over and now she ruined that. Unless he somehow doesn't figure out it was her that voted for him. But all he'd have to do is sit down with Hai and Lydia to figure that out and I get the impression that he wont let that go. She may be saved by a merge tho. I'm siding with Jonathan on the Maryanne stuff. She's loud and obnoxious and I could see her getting really grating after a week of being stuck on an island together.
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Post by Marv on Apr 7, 2022 11:49:25 GMT
Nevermind on Channelle. I just read an explanation to her logic there and it makes total sense.
If Daniel plays his SITD correctly then the 1 vote against her comes into play, so she is balancing that out and offering up Mike as the other target, which would be tempting to Hai and Lydia since Mike has an active idol now.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 8, 2022 4:41:41 GMT
Nevermind on Channelle. I just read an explanation to her logic there and it makes total sense. If Daniel plays his SITD correctly then the 1 vote against her comes into play, so she is balancing that out and offering up Mike as the other target, which would be tempting to Hai and Lydia since Mike has an active idol now. Yeah, I heard that on a podcast via The Ringer. I'm glad Daniel is gone, the so-called Survivor expert is the new worst trope of the show. There was some girl on the pod from a couple earlier seasons, forget who (isn't important, & I don't care to bother lols)... anyways the framing of the silly secret messages at challenges, they wondered if that can't work ever again if future contestants know the spin. The girl said, well, challenges in reality last hours, nearly the entire day. They get summoned to go, & get to ask Jeff all about health & safety of the challenge. They do not get to watch the CBS crew run through it because watching a challenge gives away too much prior strategy. Anyways, they are there talking & chatting for so much longer time all together than what we've ever seen on the show edited ever. So when we saw Drea & Mike recite their idol messages, those aren't verbal shots in the dark like the show suggests. To that trio idol thing. Their rule states to read it at next challenge. Mike did not do that. The podcast wondered why he was allowed/wasn't ruled on that. They think he probably would've been stopped had he kept it secret, & it might've blown up in his face at a tribal council. That's interesting. The pod suggested that laws of the game can seem to bend, be laxed, if it makes for good tv... & well, since that's been Mike's thing thus far, & the show is obviously edited post-finale, there wasn't issue. btw, they also nibbled at behind the scenes on-island blow-up about last season's Erica's turn-back-time advantage. While the players were fine with secret twists, apparently it was real world blow up at Jeff & co. that nearly all their games were blown up for no reason, literally out of the blue on them. We've not yet seen that secret play this season yet, & are we still? Dunno. None of the cast suggests Erica's win have an asterisk, yet in the heat of battle, word is they were furious with producers. I would agree that such a twist bombshell is too much power & negates most strategy up to that point. Maybe it's because Erica was framed as quite innocent underdog, it didn't bleed through the show's 4th wall or whatever. The girls btw thought John was misogynistic tonight...? Uhh... if not being cool with 24/7 cheerleader in your ear, on little to no rest or food... is misogynistic, then wtf. That spilled into the game rewarding it with Jeff highlighting his physical dominance in challenges... & yet Jeff's never praised female contestants like that ever?? lols yeah, it went there downhill... Personally I guess I can see their pov. Idols have mostly been hidden in the woods... where mostly it's been males over the seasons doing those chores, easier to find & collect. I dunno... ppl will often see & hear what they want to on grey areas like that.
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Post by Marv on Apr 8, 2022 6:19:28 GMT
Nevermind on Channelle. I just read an explanation to her logic there and it makes total sense. If Daniel plays his SITD correctly then the 1 vote against her comes into play, so she is balancing that out and offering up Mike as the other target, which would be tempting to Hai and Lydia since Mike has an active idol now. Yeah, I heard that on a podcast via The Ringer. I'm glad Daniel is gone, the so-called Survivor expert is the new worst trope of the show. There was some girl on the pod from a couple earlier seasons, forget who (isn't important, & I don't care to bother lols)... anyways the framing of the silly secret messages at challenges, they wondered if that can't work ever again if future contestants know the spin. The girl said, well, challenges in reality last hours, nearly the entire day. They get summoned to go, & get to ask Jeff all about health & safety of the challenge. They do not get to watch the CBS crew run through it because watching a challenge gives away too much prior strategy. Anyways, they are there talking & chatting for so much longer time all together than what we've ever seen on the show edited ever. So when we saw Drea & Mike recite their idol messages, those aren't verbal shots in the dark like the show suggests. To that trio idol thing. Their rule states to read it at next challenge. Mike did not do that. The podcast wondered why he was allowed/wasn't ruled on that. They think he probably would've been stopped had he kept it secret, & it might've blown up in his face at a tribal council. That's interesting. The pod suggested that laws of the game can seem to bend, be laxed, if it makes for good tv... & well, since that's been Mike's thing thus far, & the show is obviously edited post-finale, there wasn't issue. btw, they also nibbled at behind the scenes on-island blow-up about last season's Erica's turn-back-time advantage. While the players were fine with secret twists, apparently it was real world blow up at Jeff & co. that nearly all their games were blown up for no reason, literally out of the blue on them. We've not yet seen that secret play this season yet, & are we still? Dunno. None of the cast suggests Erica's win have an asterisk, yet in the heat of battle, word is they were furious with producers. I would agree that such a twist bombshell is too much power & negates most strategy up to that point. Maybe it's because Erica was framed as quite innocent underdog, it didn't bleed through the show's 4th wall or whatever. The girls btw thought John was misogynistic tonight...? Uhh... if not being cool with 24/7 cheerleader in your ear, on little to no rest or food... is misogynistic, then wtf. That spilled into the game rewarding it with Jeff highlighting his physical dominance in challenges... & yet Jeff's never praised female contestants like that ever?? lols yeah, it went there downhill... Personally I guess I can see their pov. Idols have mostly been hidden in the woods... where mostly it's been males over the seasons doing those chores, easier to find & collect. I dunno... ppl will often see & hear what they want to on grey areas like that. Interesting. I saw some Twitter convos when Mike first decided to not say the phrase, former survivors seemed to think that production let it go because it probably would be interesting tv. They said production would step in if you go too far so try and find where that line is. Apparently they were ok with Mike not saying it. I didn’t know if he’d get his vote back on a merge or swap. We still don’t know all the rules to this new locked idol. What if the holder is eliminated? What happens to locked idols at merge? What happens to the votes? Too many questions. I heard the players were actually upset with Jeff last season over the hourglass. Youtubers I watch and fans I talk to all seem to agree it was too op and Erika’s choice was never really a choice. I feel like there will be something similar but they may tweak it next episode. Jonathan getting annoyed isn’t misogynistic. Unless they’re talking about something more specific but I don’t remember him acting misogynistic at all. As far as Jeff praising anyone…I’d have to go back through the seasons but I never noticed Jeff targeting males with praise specifically. He’s talking up Jonathan because Jonathan single handed Lu carried his tribe through a few challenges at this point and Jeff is impressed…as everyone should be. I remember him talking up Heather last season but that was more for not giving up rather than dominating. But I’m hard pressed to think of the last time a female contestant dominated challenges the way Jonathan has this season.
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Post by onethreetwo on Apr 8, 2022 6:24:24 GMT
Daniel's gonna have some regrets later. He got to play Survivor and he watched it from the sidelines. That's a fate worse than being voted out first.
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Post by onethreetwo on Apr 8, 2022 6:29:49 GMT
Yeah, I heard that on a podcast via The Ringer. I'm glad Daniel is gone, the so-called Survivor expert is the new worst trope of the show. There was some girl on the pod from a couple earlier seasons, forget who (isn't important, & I don't care to bother lols)... anyways the framing of the silly secret messages at challenges, they wondered if that can't work ever again if future contestants know the spin. The girl said, well, challenges in reality last hours, nearly the entire day. They get summoned to go, & get to ask Jeff all about health & safety of the challenge. They do not get to watch the CBS crew run through it because watching a challenge gives away too much prior strategy. Anyways, they are there talking & chatting for so much longer time all together than what we've ever seen on the show edited ever. So when we saw Drea & Mike recite their idol messages, those aren't verbal shots in the dark like the show suggests. To that trio idol thing. Their rule states to read it at next challenge. Mike did not do that. The podcast wondered why he was allowed/wasn't ruled on that. They think he probably would've been stopped had he kept it secret, & it might've blown up in his face at a tribal council. That's interesting. The pod suggested that laws of the game can seem to bend, be laxed, if it makes for good tv... & well, since that's been Mike's thing thus far, & the show is obviously edited post-finale, there wasn't issue. btw, they also nibbled at behind the scenes on-island blow-up about last season's Erica's turn-back-time advantage. While the players were fine with secret twists, apparently it was real world blow up at Jeff & co. that nearly all their games were blown up for no reason, literally out of the blue on them. We've not yet seen that secret play this season yet, & are we still? Dunno. None of the cast suggests Erica's win have an asterisk, yet in the heat of battle, word is they were furious with producers. I would agree that such a twist bombshell is too much power & negates most strategy up to that point. Maybe it's because Erica was framed as quite innocent underdog, it didn't bleed through the show's 4th wall or whatever. The girls btw thought John was misogynistic tonight...? Uhh... if not being cool with 24/7 cheerleader in your ear, on little to no rest or food... is misogynistic, then wtf. That spilled into the game rewarding it with Jeff highlighting his physical dominance in challenges... & yet Jeff's never praised female contestants like that ever?? lols yeah, it went there downhill... Personally I guess I can see their pov. Idols have mostly been hidden in the woods... where mostly it's been males over the seasons doing those chores, easier to find & collect. I dunno... ppl will often see & hear what they want to on grey areas like that. Interesting. I saw some Twitter convos when Mike first decided to not say the phrase, former survivors seemed to think that production let it go because it probably would be interesting tv. They said production would step in if you go too far so try and find where that line is. Apparently they were ok with Mike not saying it. I didn’t know if he’d get his vote back on a merge or swap. We still don’t know all the rules to this new locked idol. What if the holder is eliminated? What happens to locked idols at merge? What happens to the votes? Too many questions. I heard the players were actually upset with Jeff last season over the hourglass. Youtubers I watch and fans I talk to all seem to agree it was too op and Erika’s choice was never really a choice. I feel like there will be something similar but they may tweak it next episode. Jonathan getting annoyed isn’t misogynistic. Unless they’re talking about something more specific but I don’t remember him acting misogynistic at all. As far as Jeff praising anyone…I’d have to go back through the seasons but I never noticed Jeff targeting males with praise specifically. He’s talking up Jonathan because Jonathan single handed Lu carried his tribe through a few challenges at this point and Jeff is impressed…as everyone should be. I remember him talking up Heather last season but that was more for not giving up rather than dominating. But I’m hard pressed to think of the last time a female contestant dominated challenges the way Jonathan has this season. He's talked up players for other reasons though. I'm thinking of Cochran specifically. Brains-wise. I don't think there's much of a difference between that and what he's doing with Johnathan. Like you said, he's impressed.
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Post by Marv on Apr 8, 2022 14:39:09 GMT
Daniel's gonna have some regrets later. He got to play Survivor and he watched it from the sidelines. That's a fate worse than being voted out first. Especially if he’s really a fan of the show. He wasn’t the type they’d be interested in asking back.
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Post by Marv on Apr 8, 2022 14:40:31 GMT
Interesting. I saw some Twitter convos when Mike first decided to not say the phrase, former survivors seemed to think that production let it go because it probably would be interesting tv. They said production would step in if you go too far so try and find where that line is. Apparently they were ok with Mike not saying it. I didn’t know if he’d get his vote back on a merge or swap. We still don’t know all the rules to this new locked idol. What if the holder is eliminated? What happens to locked idols at merge? What happens to the votes? Too many questions. I heard the players were actually upset with Jeff last season over the hourglass. Youtubers I watch and fans I talk to all seem to agree it was too op and Erika’s choice was never really a choice. I feel like there will be something similar but they may tweak it next episode. Jonathan getting annoyed isn’t misogynistic. Unless they’re talking about something more specific but I don’t remember him acting misogynistic at all. As far as Jeff praising anyone…I’d have to go back through the seasons but I never noticed Jeff targeting males with praise specifically. He’s talking up Jonathan because Jonathan single handed Lu carried his tribe through a few challenges at this point and Jeff is impressed…as everyone should be. I remember him talking up Heather last season but that was more for not giving up rather than dominating. But I’m hard pressed to think of the last time a female contestant dominated challenges the way Jonathan has this season. He's talked up players for other reasons though. I'm thinking of Cochran specifically. Brains-wise. I don't think there's much of a difference between that and what he's doing with Johnathan. Like you said, he's impressed. Yea I mean historically Jeff has talked up and talked down players but I don’t recall there being a sexist trend there.
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Post by Marv on Apr 14, 2022 21:15:17 GMT
Pretty good episode. The hourglass is still stupid tho. But mostly because it's a non question. Why wouldn't Rocksroy take the immunity? Especially when his only potential ally he'd be screwing over is Tori, who doesn't get along with him anyway. Other than that solid episode.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 15, 2022 4:15:53 GMT
Some pretty heady stuff there. Jonathan powering his way to rewards. Tori cannot help but twist herself inside out for all to see - she was etched to be gone had she not won. I feel like that hail mary immunity win is fairly common enough with the series - it nearly feels familiar by now that someone on the chopping block will win. I know the show is based on editing, & yet not even great editing can mask wtf is happening with her. Mary Ann is contributing what exactly? As for Jonathan - I feel like the last handful of challenges are more about zen concentration than brute physical force... 42 seasons in, am I the only one to see that? Why so many ppl rush to vote those types away is weird- when the cerebral chaos between lesser fit ppl is the consequence.
Omar is probably my pick to win now, with Hai perhaps boxing too many ppl out? I dunno, Omar's lack of voting ability, wonder how that'd play for a jury... & yet, if he's final 3 without ever voting, that's pretty strong social game.
As posted earlier, I'd heard the producers were going to tweak the back-in-time power play a bit. I guess they were a little more transparent up front before the challenge?? At least Rox isn't some darkhorse underdog that Erica was S41. If he stays out of his own way, he should manage final 8 at least.
Tori, Channelle have to go. Romeo finally able to be himself, mocking Jonathan for being his self... nice guy that.
I guess my final 3 are Omar-Hai-Lindsay
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