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Post by onethreetwo on Apr 15, 2022 7:12:47 GMT
What was with Drea being a bitch to Maryanne at tribal? As someone who was bullied badly, I recognize mean girl shit when I see it. Drea can go next.
The whole winning group are a bunch of morons for passing on the game changing power. I was pretty disappointed in all of them.
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Post by Marv on Apr 15, 2022 10:36:55 GMT
What was with Drea being a bitch to Maryanne at tribal? As someone who was bullied badly, I recognize mean girl shit when I see it. Drea can go next. The whole winning group are a bunch of morons for passing on the game changing power. I was pretty disappointed in all of them. They’d be giving up immunity and a feast…I’m sure it didn’t seem worth it at the time. Even knowing what it is, it might still not be worth it.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 22, 2022 22:44:42 GMT
I still like Drea, & she's playing as good a bonus game as anyone ever, yet she seems quite passive about the whole thing. If she were final 3 & revealed all that stuff, without it making much difference, what's the rest of her resume? Collect-a-thon without making much of an impact isn't quite the winning strategy. Still early though. The red paint was a fun slip up. Might've used sticks there to fish it out... Drea isn't the best liar yet.
Omar is still driving the game, & he still doesn't even have a vote. I can't not see him final 3.
Romeo has to go, yet Tori needs to be gone asap. I hate that type of person - where if you don't satisfy their paranoia, you're in the wrong?
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Post by Marv on Apr 23, 2022 0:40:58 GMT
Omer has a vote. He just didn’t have one last week. He voted Romeo this week with Chanelle and Maryanne.
I agree about everything else tho. Drea should have an idea of when to start using her idols but she definitely should use as many as she can to build up her status. She doesn’t seem overly social or particularly challenge oriented so strategy has to be her path to victory.
Tori and Romeo have to be on the bottom. I still like Jonathan…and Mikes story has come along nicely. Omer and Hai are getting some strategic nods. Lindsay is almost invisible but it seems like she’s in some shut next week. Rocks is also kind of a background character. He got one good ep at the merge but otherwise is mostly a non factor. Overall good season so far. I just hope the good players don’t go out next.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 23, 2022 13:00:55 GMT
Omer has a vote. He just didn’t have one last week. He voted Romeo this week with Chanelle and Maryanne. Yeah, I realized as soon after typing. Mandela Effect. I wonder if other ppl on the show thought he didn't either lols. I listened to The Ringer's pod about the eps. Now's about the time smart players should/would start thinking about offing stronger players, even if they're in alliance. Bringing dead weight to final 3 jury is a far easier path to victory. Hei's name was floated by them, esp after he divulged that driver's seat/passenger seat at Tribal.
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Post by Marv on Apr 23, 2022 13:22:27 GMT
Omer has a vote. He just didn’t have one last week. He voted Romeo this week with Chanelle and Maryanne. Yeah, I realized as soon after typing. Mandela Effect. I wonder if other ppl on the show thought he didn't either lols. I listened to The Ringer's pod about the eps. Now's about the time smart players should/would start thinking about offing stronger players, even if they're in alliance. Bringing dead weight to final 3 jury is a far easier path to victory. Hei's name was floated by them, esp after he divulged that driver's seat/passenger seat at Tribal. The only reason Im not real big on Hai is that he's mishandling his allies. Lydia not on the jury hurts him and Romeo voted for him out of spite. These were two potential votes for him. So i think the only way he has a chance is doing something really impressive at this point.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 23, 2022 13:47:11 GMT
Yeah, I realized as soon after typing. Mandela Effect. I wonder if other ppl on the show thought he didn't either lols. I listened to The Ringer's pod about the eps. Now's about the time smart players should/would start thinking about offing stronger players, even if they're in alliance. Bringing dead weight to final 3 jury is a far easier path to victory. Hei's name was floated by them, esp after he divulged that driver's seat/passenger seat at Tribal. The only reason Im not real big on Hai is that he's mishandling his allies. Lydia not on the jury hurts him and Romeo voted for him out of spite. These were two potential votes for him. So i think the only way he has a chance is doing something really impressive at this point. He might've peaked too early. There seems a bunch of them who know how to play, & some are playing too hard (Hai), & others who really haven't a clue (Tori should've outed Drea's red paint to every last one of them).
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 28, 2022 2:07:11 GMT
There is a lot to unpack from that one. I'm sure to stumble around, &/or say something naive....
Firstly, it got to me emotionally because when nearly the very same concerns arose in S41 in nearly the same manner as this now S42... practically mirrored... it underscores everything. Had this S42 cast watched S41, then yeah, it might've come across differently. They didn't, so neither did the concerns. I bet when Channelle, Rocksroy, Maryanne, & Drea watched S41 themselves at home, after having been on island to miss that, & go through the same themselves... I can't even imagine that release. I'm not sure if the finale is live on tape on-island as S41... yet if S42's vote is live on stage somewhere, this entire discussion should be re-embraced. I dunno.
The lone counter objective angle I've encountered online that isn't wrong - Channelle & Rocksroy were not the first ppl voted out of the game, in a row or otherwise. They were merely the 8th & 9th respectively, & because staying at Tribal as jurors, it visibly might seem more impactful to those remaining. Dunno. Had Rocks done something stupid in front of Drea over the past episodes, then her reaction not seeing Romeo on the jury tonight likely wouldn't have been as dramatic. Again, I've no idea.
I love Drea's game, as I stated in my earliest posts. She's got a solid IQ & EQ balance that I wish the world would reward more of. When she pauses to think her responses, when she says 'I'm not sure'/'I don't know yet' I love that. Thinking before responding, what a concept.
Survivor the show could -easily- find a way to take its own pause for a week, or post a special in the coming days, flat out discussing the implications of what went down between both S41 & S42's events. Then again, CBS, Probst, I think they believe they're nothing more than a game show, & any breath of BLM they maybe feel unqualified to address professionally. Dunno. The season is taped, so there's no omg wtf how to address on the run... it's already all in the can, edited.
On a lighter note, I think Jonathan is a goner. He's not a bad person or annoying, so much as everyone now has seen his traits up close: physically dominating, very poor strategist, doesn't think before he speaks (hopefully for his sake lols), & feels nearly invincible. I think as the game grows later, the better players emerge, & they probably won't even feel him worthy of final 3. I don't even think they'll feel bad, or good, about writing his name. Indifference, that can be a devastating affect to have on others in such a game.
I think I'm going Drea, Mike, & Omar final 3... if Omar can just keep hiding his true self to the castaways. I like the pod I'm listening to points out how he's near manic on selfie cams, all the while acting professorial with the cast in real life. There's a dark side to his chess game, & he'll need to keep that up as it gets harder to do so from now on. That final 3, I could see Drea getting 51% of a vote or whatever, with Mike & Omar splitting between them the other 49% if you will.
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Post by Marv on Apr 28, 2022 23:37:05 GMT
I said it elsewhere but...I don't believe Chanelle or Rocksroy were voted out due to the color of their skin. But i DO think that after this tribal council it makes perfect sense for Maryanne and Drea to be targeted because of their race. Especially Maryanne because she has potentially all 3 jury votes at the moment. They can't allow her to make the final 3.
I actually don't think Jonathan is that bad a strategist, I just think he's playing too many angles. I fully believe his intention was to either get Drea or Maryanne to play their idol and vote the other out...or both to play their idol and vote Tori out. I think he saw this tribal as the perfect opportunity to cover a lot of ground in a short amount of time...but then the race card got pulled and he doesn't know to keep quiet. Although I will say I find it sad that people (outside the game) will crucify someone like Jonathan for not understanding, or misunderstanding and being a little combative but then completely forget about the progression of the conversation where it seemed to make sense to him and he shared his love with Maryanne and Drea and they grew together over the course of that conversation. People (outside the game) get so excited to hate someone or something that they ignore progress so they can revel in it. It just makes me sad for them.
But yea I don't really see Jonathan as being able to win over this jury. I just don't think this group of people are the kind that will respect physical gameplay and that's really his strong suit. He'll be targeted before too long Im guessing. I do think Omer has to be able to make people remember he's making all these moves tho. He's flying under the radar perfectly but you can't be completely under to the point where other people get the credit for your strategy. This is a hard cast to figure out tho because they are all honestly not playing a classic game. There isn't a single really good alliance in this whole tribe. I like Mike and Jonathan...and at the beginning of the season I had Lindsay, Chanelle and Daniel in the final 3 so Ill keep Lindsay as the third wheel there. I guess Im rooting for Mike at this point.
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Post by onethreetwo on Apr 29, 2022 2:57:15 GMT
Fuck this fuckin' show. I've watched since season 1. Maybe I just need to move on.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 30, 2022 2:32:55 GMT
Fuck this fuckin' show. I've watched since season 1. Maybe I just need to move on. I quit after season 4. Dabbled back in during 2020 lockdown. I will admit, I like the far more gaming aspect to the show than pure drawn out survivalist fare. 26 days instead of 39 is quite a huge discrepancy also, & that surely comes across also - greater urgency, & far less lethargy. I also think these recent players having watched the show's later seasons the most, aren't just waddling onto a beach for tree mail & a jungle hang like maybe they were 15-20yrs ago. What's appealing to me is the show isn't shy of trying new things. On the contrary, they now seem wanting nothing more than to keep players on edge with surprises & twists. There's a ton they could still experiment with. How's about commencing the season with the merge? Rewarding ppl for staying merged, building alliances/social game; penalizing others by creating newer smaller tribes?? lols
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 6, 2022 4:58:20 GMT
Omar should be gone next, yet they don't know. I honestly thought tonight might've been one of those blindsides on the viewer - where they don't show true content until after the vote. Omar luring everyone in... & now outright lying to the most truthful player in Survivor history (until he offed Rocksroy*) about being a puppet... crazy. He was a hero early on... now Omar is pure villain.
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Post by Marv on May 6, 2022 21:19:08 GMT
Omar should be gone next, yet they don't know. I honestly thought tonight might've been one of those blindsides on the viewer - where they don't show true content until after the vote. Omar luring everyone in... & now outright lying to the most truthful player in Survivor history (until he offed Rocksroy*) about being a puppet... crazy. He was a hero early on... now Omar is pure villain. Omar is the villain and it could go a few different ways. Personally I think it'd be hilarious if he makes the end but stays so far under the radar as the mastermind that nobody winds up giving him credit for anything. But I feel like he'd either win or get voted out once his true nature becomes public.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 7, 2022 3:27:59 GMT
Omar should be gone next, yet they don't know. I honestly thought tonight might've been one of those blindsides on the viewer - where they don't show true content until after the vote. Omar luring everyone in... & now outright lying to the most truthful player in Survivor history (until he offed Rocksroy*) about being a puppet... crazy. He was a hero early on... now Omar is pure villain. Omar is the villain and it could go a few different ways. Personally I think it'd be hilarious if he makes the end but stays so far under the radar as the mastermind that nobody winds up giving him credit for anything. But I feel like he'd either win or get voted out once his true nature becomes public. Tyson mentioned (via pod) he's usually voting for who he'd want to have the money, regardless strategy. The most likeable to that jurist. They also pointed out what you said - strategists can't slow play through the finale, the point of high strategy in Survivor is for it to be public enough to impress. I'm really glad they pointed out (pod) that there's been quite a few balance challenges... & why is Jonathan viewed as some all powerful challenge winner, if he's not actually winning them. The physical stuff seems junked after the merge nowadays. If I were playing S42, I'm towing him to final 3. I think Mike can steal it if Omar implodes. Drea might need to start socializing more.
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Post by Marv on May 12, 2022 12:12:04 GMT
After the vote was actually really fun. It was really refreshing seeing people appreciate the gameplay and not react all bitter and angry about anything. I enjoyed that. Drea was a smart player.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 13, 2022 3:29:20 GMT
Drea as cordial, slight introvert, proved how far I would probably go in Surivivor lols. She's pretty much me, including mild outburst speaking mind when prompted.
That was one of the best episodes of Survivor I've seen, except for one near fatal flaw - when Lindsay was playing Let's Make a Deal, I saw about 15mins left in air-time, that's nearly a lock for more tribal drama. btw - 2 for 2 100% now not switching Let's Make a Deal original choices, S41 & S42. 66% greater chance of winning with a switch after the host reveals one of the 3 losing choices.
Lindsay is my pick now if she can get there. Maryanne I'm seeing more & more ppls pick to win... I dunno, a final 4 run & fire or whatever could bolster her. Omar is outed now & will probably spin himself out trying to explain/deflect. Mike, are ppl still believing his every honest word?? lols Jonathan is DOA. There's no way he wins, even as final 3. I saw that player last season a bit with Xander - he'll never have the jury majority. His social game scuks. Romeo is now enjoying a free extended Fijian vacation - not a one is voting him out when he's foil fodder for jury deflections. He'd get maybe 1 vote if he's lucky.
Maybe it's Lindsay vs Maryanne tight vote, Romeo along for free.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 19, 2022 2:28:19 GMT
lols Lindsay revealing her checkers playing was funny. Omar had to go. Full stop. He would've won, guaranteed. Lindsay's earnestness about having everything laid out just because Jonathan stumbled was an L for me. Lindsay still thinking about the next chicken head to sacrifice, while everyone is already setting up their final 3. Maryanne, Romeo, Jonathan final 3? That'd be pretty random. I'm not sure wtf Mike was smoking voting Romeo... are they that dense they can't see he's the least jury threatening?? Unreal. I guess he gave himself his own word or whatever the fcuk.
Oh well, at least Omar didn't crash & burn, he was offed fairly & cordially enough.
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Post by Marv on May 19, 2022 9:29:43 GMT
lols Lindsay revealing her checkers playing was funny. Omar had to go. Full stop. He would've won, guaranteed. Lindsay's earnestness about having everything laid out just because Jonathan stumbled was an L for me. Lindsay still thinking about the next chicken head to sacrifice, while everyone is already setting up their final 3. Maryanne, Romeo, Jonathan final 3? That'd be pretty random. I'm not sure wtf Mike was smoking voting Romeo... are they that dense they can't see he's the least jury threatening?? Unreal. I guess he gave himself his own word or whatever the fcuk. Oh well, at least Omar didn't crash & burn, he was offed fairly & cordially enough. That move secured a Maryanne victory if she makes the final. She was already pretty high due to her likeability and the events of that racially motivated tribal...but now that she has a solid blindside under her belt she is my favorite to win it assuming shes at the final. Especially if shes sitting next to Romeo and Jonathan. Mike and Jonathan assumed Lindsay would play her idol for Omer since it was the last time she could do so. Thats why they voted Romeo instead of Omer with Maryanne. It still wouldn't have saved Jonathan if they had to go to a revote but it was for sure the safer vote. Maryanne and Mike have idols I think. So they'll be in final 4 barring a med evac or something. Knowing that Lindsay should be the next target. She is vulnerable but is also the biggest jury threat out of the three elligible to go home. Romeo is a goat and Jonathan might as well be even tho I think he's played a solid game.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 26, 2022 4:16:47 GMT
Maryanne was the best player from that final 5. I do think Survivor's Achilles heel remains the best, strongest players are being offed before final 3. Not unanimously, yet the final 3 should be more of a war & less of a lunch room social club. Romeo had zero chance all night long. Mike they showed jurists nearly went for him until Maryanne's idol mic drop. Lindsay just seemed burned out & started acting whiny. Jonathan was a social zombie lols... had he made fire, I don't see more than 3 votes from that Jury for him. Oh well, other than Drea, Omar, & Hai, most every single player gave their absolute best & got as far as they deserved.
S41 & S42 was a fun double. I like the gamier play structure of it, the show cannot succeed with viewers coming on & breaking the game otherwise with predictability. I still think what was missing from both seasons was levity... Tony, Boston Rob, those guys were busting with laughing at the whole f'n thing... these 2 casts seemed full of serious chess players & silly goofy. Both casts were also dare I say, too likeable?? Villains help, & seems these 2 seasons weren't having it. S43 teaser looks like a lively cast, & yet I'm already seeing familiar challenges... that scuks.
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Post by JHA Durant on May 26, 2022 11:34:31 GMT
I liked Maryanne pretty much since the start of the show, she was funny and smart. Happy that she won. Liked Mike and Jonathon from the start too. Didn't like Romeo much, he only made it to the final 3 through sheer luck and because someone else every tribal council happened to be perceived as a bigger threat than him. I am impressed that he fooled the other 4 people into believing he had an idol, that was a pro gamer move right there. I liked Lindsay until she went to pieces over the last couple of episodes, especially after Mike won the Immunity Challenge.
Yeah, pretty good season overall IMO. I hadn't seen a Survivor season for a while.
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