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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 1:14:29 GMT
Can anyone provide a concrete answer to this?
Information on the internet is predictably contradictory and untrustworthy. Many sites claim that the same laws that protected consumer rights to record from tv using a VCR still apply to streeeeeeaming services. Others say that isn’t so because of terms of services. But how can the latter contradict the former? Why wouldn’t cable/tv networks have used this to prevent VCR recordings? Or radio stations to prevent people from taping off their radios? It makes no sense and is confusing AF.
Basically, I don’t want to do or condone anything illegal, intentionally or otherwise, so this isn’t something I plan to do.
I am still curious to an actual answer though. Seems like a good thing to know in today’s day and age.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 2:08:03 GMT
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Post by deembastille on Mar 20, 2022 2:18:57 GMT
Well, you can't clip still pics of a streaming show. They'll come up blacked out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 22:05:59 GMT
Well, you can't clip still pics of a streeeeeeeeaming show. They'll come up blacked out. Oh! That ain’t right. I’ve never actually tried to do any of this stuff, but I was optimistic (however briefly) that it might be both possible and legal to record streeeeeaming shows to avoid perpetual subscriptions. They should just allow digital downloads for additional fees. I don’t know why that’s not a thing.
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Post by Admin on Mar 21, 2022 3:17:44 GMT
Can anyone provide a concrete answer to this? Information on the internet is predictably contradictory and untrustworthy. Many sites claim that the same laws that protected consumer rights to record from tv using a VCR still apply to streeeeeeaming services. Others say that isn’t so because of terms of services. But how can the latter contradict the former? Why wouldn’t cable/tv networks have used this to prevent VCR recordings? Or radio stations to prevent people from taping off their radios? It makes no sense and is confusing AF. Basically, I don’t want to do or condone anything illegal, intentionally or otherwise, so this isn’t something I plan to do. I am still curious to an actual answer though. Seems like a good thing to know in today’s day and age. I assume it's for the same reason you can't record a movie in a theater to share with your friends at home. Recording a TV show for later viewing (ie, "timeshifting") is acceptable because it's not taking anyone out of the theater and the financial loss is negligible. Similarly, recording a stream (especially a show that's exclusive to a particular provider) takes people out of the streaming service and the financial loss can be substantial.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 17:01:03 GMT
Can anyone provide a concrete answer to this? Information on the internet is predictably contradictory and untrustworthy. Many sites claim that the same laws that protected consumer rights to record from tv using a VCR still apply to streeeeeeaming services. Others say that isn’t so because of terms of services. But how can the latter contradict the former? Why wouldn’t cable/tv networks have used this to prevent VCR recordings? Or radio stations to prevent people from taping off their radios? It makes no sense and is confusing AF. Basically, I don’t want to do or condone anything illegal, intentionally or otherwise, so this isn’t something I plan to do. I am still curious to an actual answer though. Seems like a good thing to know in today’s day and age. I assume it's for the same reason you can't record a movie in a theater to share with your friends at home. Recording a TV show for later viewing (ie, "timeshifting") is acceptable because it's not taking anyone out of the theater and the financial loss is negligible. Similarly, recording a streeeeam (especially a show that's exclusive to a particular provider) takes people out of the streeeeeeeeeeeeeaming service and the financial loss can be substantial. Probably so. And I suppose it makes sense from the business standpoint. Although, one would still have to subscribe in the first place to record shows, and if it were possible they would certainly gain me as a customer. And quality new content would keep people coming back. I doubt it would cost them any business.
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 21, 2022 20:29:36 GMT
I assume it's for the same reason you can't record a movie in a theater to share with your friends at home. Recording a TV show for later viewing (ie, "timeshifting") is acceptable because it's not taking anyone out of the theater and the financial loss is negligible. Similarly, recording a stream (especially a show that's exclusive to a particular provider) takes people out of the streaming service and the financial loss can be substantial. Probably so. And I suppose it makes sense from the business standpoint. Although, one would still have to subscribe in the first place to record shows, and if it were possible they would certainly gain me as a customer. And quality new content would keep people coming back. I doubt it would cost them any business. How many platforms do we have to subscribe to if we want to see all this quality new content? 
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 21:31:48 GMT
Probably so. And I suppose it makes sense from the business standpoint. Although, one would still have to subscribe in the first place to record shows, and if it were possible they would certainly gain me as a customer. And quality new content would keep people coming back. I doubt it would cost them any business. How many platforms do we have to subscribe to if we want to see all this quality new content? Whatever number it is it’s exactly that number too many! (I currently subscribe to zero streeeaming services)
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Apr 19, 2022 3:55:27 GMT
Well, you can't clip still pics of a streeeeeeeeaming show. They'll come up blacked out. They should just allow digital downloads for additional fees. I don’t know why that’s not a thing. As far as I know you can "buy" digital copies of certain films on Amazon Prime as well as renting them, on top of the monthly subscription. Usually new releases. I've never done it as it's usually more expensive than buying a physical copy.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Apr 19, 2022 15:59:01 GMT
Can anyone provide a concrete answer to this? 
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 17:38:31 GMT
They should just allow digital downloads for additional fees. I don’t know why that’s not a thing. As far as I know you can "buy" digital copies of certain films on Amazon Prime as well as renting them, on top of the monthly subscription. Usually new releases. I've never done it as it's usually more expensive than buying a physical copy. It does not let you download them though. You have to watch them on their servers, which is NOT ownership and basically a waste of money.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Apr 19, 2022 21:28:00 GMT
As far as I know you can "buy" digital copies of certain films on Amazon Prime as well as renting them, on top of the monthly subscription. Usually new releases. I've never done it as it's usually more expensive than buying a physical copy. It does not let you download them though. You have to watch them on their servers. Oh, OK. Like I said I've never done it. I thought it may have been equivalent to a download. I should have known it wouldn't be. Yes, very true.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2022 0:56:39 GMT
It does not let you download them though. You have to watch them on their servers. Oh, OK. Like I said I've never done it. I thought it may have been equivalent to a download. I should have known it wouldn't be. Yes, very true. I used to think those digital codes that came with blu rays allowed for digital ownership but those don’t either. There’s no way to legally purchase digital movies that you can actually own! I honestly don’t know why people support this weird future where no one actually owns copies of anything. But I digress.
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Post by Stammerhead on Apr 20, 2022 23:02:17 GMT
Oh, OK. Like I said I've never done it. I thought it may have been equivalent to a download. I should have known it wouldn't be. Yes, very true. I used to think those digital codes that came with blu rays allowed for digital ownership but those don’t either. There’s no way to legally purchase digital movies that you can actually own! I honestly don’t know why people support this weird future where no one actually owns copies of anything. But I digress. The truth is you can’t legally own a digital copy. I once went mad for a few minutes and bought Blade Runner 2049 when it was on special offer for £3 and then realised that if I wait a few years I can probably buy it as a 2nd hand DVD for 50p. Oh well.
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