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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 23, 2022 1:11:03 GMT
It's the same "we" as the "we" in your statement, and I'm not arguing against evolution. You said evolution taught it's safer in the group than outside it, thus my question to you. We learned to survive from our parents and troop/tribe, a process that goes back millions of years and varies according to the environment. Survival goes back to the point when there was only one environment and one kind of thing, then that environment changed and some died. The survivors reproduced and were more fit for the new environment. The process repeated and life became more complex to deal with new environments and challenges. New variations of the thing happened, some died, some didn't. At some point a unicellular thing ate another unicellular thing but didn't digest it and instead they helped each other, even began reproducing together. And things were getting crowded, resources were running short, and the environment was always changing, so some things found out they could survive in new environments and evolved to be ideal for those environments. It keeps going until things had flippers, then arms and legs, then race cars. I am in awe of your ability to condense so much information into just one paragraph, and in such an understandable way. Evolution in a nutshell. Well done!
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Post by Sarge on May 23, 2022 3:29:41 GMT
We learned to survive from our parents and troop/tribe, a process that goes back millions of years and varies according to the environment. Survival goes back to the point when there was only one environment and one kind of thing, then that environment changed and some died. The survivors reproduced and were more fit for the new environment. The process repeated and life became more complex to deal with new environments and challenges. New variations of the thing happened, some died, some didn't. At some point a unicellular thing ate another unicellular thing but didn't digest it and instead they helped each other, even began reproducing together. And things were getting crowded, resources were running short, and the environment was always changing, so some things found out they could survive in new environments and evolved to be ideal for those environments. It keeps going until things had flippers, then arms and legs, then race cars. We must be really slow learners. lol That implies a goal but I do see the attempt at humor.
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2022 4:03:55 GMT
We must be really slow learners. lol That implies a goal but I do see the attempt at humor. I wasn't implying a goal, but now that you mention it, wouldn't survival be the goal? Clearly we have an instinct to survive. Did evolution teach us that, too?
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Post by Sarge on May 23, 2022 6:31:20 GMT
That implies a goal but I do see the attempt at humor. I wasn't implying a goal, but now that you mention it, wouldn't survival be the goal? Clearly we have an instinct to survive. Did evolution teach us that, too? Survival is the result. Humans are awesome at survival. There are few species as versatile as humans (when you except those that piggyback on humans).
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2022 6:48:04 GMT
I wasn't implying a goal, but now that you mention it, wouldn't survival be the goal? Clearly we have an instinct to survive. Did evolution teach us that, too? Survival is the result. Humans are awesome at survival. There are few species as versatile as humans (when you except those that piggyback on humans). I was asking about the instinct to survive, but now I'm curious if our versatility hinders our evolution.
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Post by Sarge on May 23, 2022 22:37:00 GMT
Survival is the result. Humans are awesome at survival. There are few species as versatile as humans (when you except those that piggyback on humans). I was asking about the instinct to survive, but now I'm curious if our versatility hinders our evolution. Take a crack at it, what do you think?
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2022 22:59:30 GMT
I was asking about the instinct to survive, but now I'm curious if our versatility hinders our evolution. Take a crack at it, what do you think? I think we've been wearing shoes for a very long time, considering that we still aren't born with hardened soles.
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Post by Sarge on May 24, 2022 5:02:26 GMT
Take a crack at it, what do you think? I think we've been wearing shoes for a very long time, considering that we still aren't born with hardened soles. Like hooves? Not very useful for primates.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2022 5:54:23 GMT
I think we've been wearing shoes for a very long time, considering that we still aren't born with hardened soles. Like hooves? Not very useful for primates. Monkeys don't wear shoes.
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Post by Sarge on May 24, 2022 19:09:45 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2022 21:33:55 GMT
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Post by Sarge on May 25, 2022 0:42:53 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 25, 2022 0:45:19 GMT
Monkeys don't have hooves.
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Post by Sarge on May 25, 2022 1:09:37 GMT
Monkeys don't have hooves. This monkey has shoes.
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Post by Admin on May 25, 2022 1:13:49 GMT
Monkeys don't have hooves. This monkey has shoes. And really soft feet, I presume. Shoes 1, Evolution 0.
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Post by Sarge on May 25, 2022 1:50:18 GMT
This monkey has shoes. And really soft feet, I presume. Shoes 1, Evolution 0. Cody Lundin has entered the chat.
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Post by Admin on May 25, 2022 2:47:31 GMT
And really soft feet, I presume. Shoes 1, Evolution 0. Cody Lundin has entered the chat. I'm fairly confident that he was born with really soft feet.
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