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Post by hiraganakanji on Mar 29, 2022 3:36:54 GMT
This is something I could never do. Luckily all my pets are good now. But there have been some fish I had that were in a bad way. And the question is do you cull them or let them keep fighting. I could never hurt any of my pets are at all. Even if they were sickly.
One of my turtles when he was a shelling (he is a like 7 inches long now) Stopped moving one day. He was just died to the world. I tried by bebst to get him to wake up but he didn't. I put put him under a heat lamp and said I will just hope. And like 2 hours later he was moving again. And now he active and happy. So I just don't want to risk them being able to fight back.
Also note, I don't want to come off as if I am judging anyone, that is why I honestly put this post in form of a question.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Mar 29, 2022 4:00:15 GMT
It's a difficult and sad choice.
Usually people do this when their pet is hurting/sick with no chance of recovering. I had to do that with my cat of 19 1/2 years last January..kidney failure. As hard as it was..I held her until she was gone. I didn't want her last moments to be with a stranger but with those who loved her for nearly 2 decades.
Understand this choice is done out of mercy and love. You don't want them to hurt or suffer so you're selflessly giving yourself less time so they won't hurt. Just stay with them. And definitely don't be like the people who just put them down because they get older but are fine otherwise... I know you're not that type.. just saying.
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Post by hiraganakanji on Mar 29, 2022 4:02:34 GMT
I see your point, you can feel so bad for the animal being in pain.
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Post by Dracula on Mar 29, 2022 4:04:07 GMT
The problem is how much pain they'll be put through by staying alive through their illness. It's a terrible thing to end your pet's life, but if your pet is suffering with no hope for recovery and you don't want your pet to be in pain, sometimes you may not have much of a choice.
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Post by marianne48 on Mar 29, 2022 7:03:55 GMT
I've been in that situation twice, and after having my elderly dog that I'd had since childhood suffer unnecessarily for a few agonizing days instead of putting her down during her final illness, a decision that I'm still guilt-ridden about over thirty years later, I had no second thoughts about euthanizing my elderly cat after he was suddenly stricken with a paralyzing thrombus a few years ago. A sad experience, but he died peacefully in my arms and never had to go through a needless prolonging of his pain.
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 29, 2022 9:13:59 GMT
If all an animal can do is lie there and suffer it has no quality of life. We had to put one of our cats down last week after 18 years of near perfect health when she suffered a stroke, went blind and kept having fits. We tried to keep her going but in the end it would have been cruel to go any further.
Our dog has cancer with not much time left but he still likes his walks and his food so he’s on medication.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 29, 2022 18:01:31 GMT
If there is no other option, it's the best idea.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 29, 2022 22:31:55 GMT
We've had to put down a few pets, it's difficult, but better than watching them suffer with no hope of recovery. When their personality leaves, it's time. Many humans have wished for the same consideration but we selfishly require them to suffer.
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Post by Marv on Mar 29, 2022 22:38:37 GMT
If it’s between that and suffering I suppose it’s good. Although I’ve never had to make the call personally and I have a cat whose about 6 now and hopefully far away from that decision, but something I occasionally think about. Whether or not I could do it.
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Post by hiraganakanji on Mar 30, 2022 6:38:52 GMT
Odd that people agonize over euthanizing a sick pet, yet think nothing of slaughtering healthy cows, pigs, chickens et al for food. Just sayin'. I don't know about them. But I don't eat mammal.
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 30, 2022 9:15:14 GMT
Odd that people agonize over euthanizing a sick pet, yet think nothing of slaughtering healthy cows, pigs, chickens et al for food. Just sayin'. Most people don’t get that emotionally attached to their cows, pigs and chickens. 
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Post by Marv on Mar 30, 2022 11:54:51 GMT
Odd that people agonize over euthanizing a sick pet, yet think nothing of slaughtering healthy cows, pigs, chickens et al for food. Just sayin'. If I got to know the cow I probably wouldn't want to eat the steak. It's more about personal relationship.
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 30, 2022 16:17:30 GMT
Most people don’t get that emotionally attached to their cows, pigs and chickens. So in other words it has nothing to do with doing what's right. It's about selfishness and setting arbitrary standards. This sick animal can suffer because he dances for me. This healthy animal can die because I'm hungry. It's almost like you deliberately misunderstood what I wrote. 
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Mar 30, 2022 17:34:48 GMT
I had to euthanize my beloved cat & dog, both within a year. Shelby the cat was 17, and was in the last stages of kidney failure, a common ailment in cats. It was so heart-wrenching but I felt at peace with it as I would never want her to live as uncomfortably for any long length of time; as miserable as she was on that last day. I was heartbroken, still am, but I don't regret the decision.
Then almost a year later my husband's 14 year old Keeshond dog Chancey had been declining with cancer for awhile. He wasn't happy it was so obvious he was in pain. He had a seizure or a stroke the night before the day we had the appointment to take him to the vet. Maybe a sign we were doing the right thing.
We miss them both like fire. Me & hubs were there, for both of them, at the end.
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Mar 30, 2022 18:03:07 GMT
If it’s between that and suffering I suppose it’s good. Although I’ve never had to make the call personally and I have a cat whose about 6 now and hopefully far away from that decision, but something I occasionally think about. Whether or not I could do it. It is the most heavy responsibility we have as pet parents. When my cat Shelby was just a little pipsqueak kittening around, I told her if the day came that I had to do the right thing for her, I would. I am grateful I had her for 17 more years.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Apr 3, 2022 21:28:32 GMT
Mzybe good.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Apr 3, 2022 22:00:08 GMT
Odd that people agonize over euthanizing a sick pet, yet think nothing of slaughtering healthy cows, pigs, chickens et al for food. Just sayin'. That's why I am vegetarian. They are all sentient beings, pets and livestock for food. I don't agonize over euthanasia, though; if an animal is suffering, with no hope of a meaningful recovery, it is the humane thing to do. I wish humans had that choice for themselves.
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Post by Admin on Apr 3, 2022 22:33:16 GMT
Most people don’t get that emotionally attached to their cows, pigs and chickens. So in other words it has nothing to do with doing what's right. It's about selfishness and setting arbitrary standards. This sick animal can suffer because he dances for me. This healthy animal can die because I'm hungry. Unless you're doing it to relieve yourself of the responsibility (or because you want a snack), there is nothing selfish about euthanizing a beloved pet. Shame on you for saying otherwise.
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Post by Admin on Apr 4, 2022 3:51:06 GMT
Unless you're doing it to relieve yourself of the responsibility (or because you want a snack), there is nothing selfish about euthanizing a beloved pet. Shame on you for saying otherwise. I didn't say it's selfish to euthanize a sick pet. I said it's hypocritical to worry about putting down a sick pet when you're fine with slaughtering animals for food.
Is your silly dog any more worthy of life than a pig? I'm told pigs can be very sweet and intelligent pets. It's not hypocritical because it isn't the same. Meat may be murder, but euthanasia is not slaughter.
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Post by Admin on Apr 4, 2022 6:21:15 GMT
It's not hypocritical because it isn't the same. Meat may be murder, but euthanasia is not slaughter. Yes, the way I grew up, back in the Middle Ages, if an animal was sick, you put it down. If a human being is sick you try to heal them. Different values are placed on the life of humans and animals. That's why most of us don't have an ethical problem with eating meat. What would you say about Chinese perhaps who raise as livestock and eat dogs? Is this unethical? Does a dog have an existential value which a pig doesn't have?
There is nothing unethical about ending the incurable suffering of any animal (or person), although an argument could be made that by doing so, a subjective quality of life is being imposed on what would then be a victim. I suppose you also see no difference between hunting for food and hunting for sport? Life feeds on life. Blame the universe.
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