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Post by politicidal on Apr 14, 2022 14:27:25 GMT
It stars Viggo Mortensen, Lea Seydoux, and Kristen Stewart.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Apr 14, 2022 14:45:36 GMT
It stars Viggo Mortensen, Lea Seydoux, and Kristen Stewart.
Whoa. The title made me think of Time Crimes (which I actually never saw) or Minority Report, but it looks way weirder and like Cronenberg back in old form. The CGI doesn't look great (but it may get better by the time it comes out), but the makeup effects certainly do. Seeing this class of cast in an old fashioned Cronenberg body-horror movie is pretty exciting.
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Post by onethreetwo on Apr 14, 2022 15:40:23 GMT
It's weird to see a trailer for a movie that looks interesting. I almost don't know how to react. When was the last time something looked like something you haven't seen before?
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Post by masterofallgoons on Apr 14, 2022 16:16:21 GMT
It's weird to see a trailer for a movie that looks interesting. I almost don't know how to react. When was the last time something looked like something you haven't seen before? The Northman
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Post by Captain Spencer on Apr 15, 2022 2:52:40 GMT
So apparently it's not a remake of that one hour movie he made in 1970. It only has the same title, that's all.
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Post by politicidal on May 7, 2022 1:55:40 GMT
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Post by politicidal on May 13, 2022 0:16:40 GMT
New poster.
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Post by masterofallgoons on May 17, 2022 13:32:37 GMT
David Cronenberg Says Netflix Passed on ‘Crimes,’ Other Projects: Streamer Is ‘Very Conservative’
Cronenberg says he took this project, and another, to Netflix and other streamers but that they all passed. There could be any number of reasons, but he suggests it scared them. Which may be him just complimenting his own audacity, but is also pretty exciting because it seems true based on what we've seen. And I think he's right to some degree that Netflix and these streamers are fairly conservative, and that some of their most audacious projects are acquisitions that they didn't develop themselves. While he's wrong about Squid Game, which Netflix did find and produce as a Netflix original and not as an acquisition, it does seem that most of their domestic productions are a little more ordinary and safe. Whatever series he was trying to develop with Netflix is now being developed as a feature film and these statements suggest that it'll be equally weird. I haven't read that novel he wrote, but there's a suggestion that he was possibly trying to adapt that into a streaming series, so that could be it.
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Post by politicidal on May 24, 2022 19:41:33 GMT
“There are some very strong scenes. I mean, I’m sure that we will have walkouts within the first five minutes of the movie. I’m sure of that. Some people who have seen the film have said that they think the last 20 minutes will be very hard on people, and that there’ll be a lot of walkouts.”
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Post by masterofallgoons on May 24, 2022 19:57:35 GMT
“There are some very strong scenes. I mean, I’m sure that we will have walkouts within the first five minutes of the movie. I’m sure of that. Some people who have seen the film have said that they think the last 20 minutes will be very hard on people, and that there’ll be a lot of walkouts.”
‘Crimes of the Future’ Earns Cannes Walkouts and 7-Minute Standing Ovation
Per Variety: It's already gotten it's walkouts... and ovation. But that's nothing new for the very reactionary audiences at Cannes.
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Post by nicktatler76 on May 25, 2022 9:27:13 GMT
“There are some very strong scenes. I mean, I’m sure that we will have walkouts within the first five minutes of the movie. I’m sure of that. Some people who have seen the film have said that they think the last 20 minutes will be very hard on people, and that there’ll be a lot of walkouts.”
‘Crimes of the Future’ Earns Cannes Walkouts and 7-Minute Standing Ovation
Per Variety: It's already gotten it's walkouts... and ovation. But that's nothing new for the very reactionary audiences at Cannes. Free publicity! People should really know what tropes to expect from a Cronenberg film, things being removed from orifices. It's hardly new.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 27, 2022 13:07:21 GMT
I can't wait to see this.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jun 16, 2022 15:43:50 GMT
Has anyone else seen this yet? I went last night. It's at the end of its run at my local theater, but there was a decent showing in the audience still... although I can't imagine it's made much in theaters. It's a very strange film with a very limited appeal.
It's got a lot of the old Cronenberg stuff of course (he wrote this about 20 years ago), but it's very strange narratively as well. It posits a nondescript future in which humans have evolved to no longer feel pain, not be susceptible to infection, some who have the ability to digest plastics, and some who grow what seem to be superfluous organs. Viggo Mortensen is one of these people who grows these organs and he and his partner Lea Seydoux remove them in front of audiences as performance art.
There are multiple subplots, some of which are very relevant, and one that doesn't seem to make much sense; and a lot of dialogue ruminating on art, evolution, surgery, etc. The line that Kristen Stewart has about 'surgery is the new sex' seems to be a lot of what this is about and also the metaphor of the artist opening up and being vulnerable is made very, very literal.
But it's kinda strange that with such big and grand ideas it's a very small and contained film. The whole thing plays in a few small locations in old dilapidated buildings with no art on the walls and stains and rust and peeling paint and crumbling stone everywhere. This is clearly an intentional design choice, but it also feels like its a very mysterious if not unconsidered what the rest of this world looks like or how it functions. We only ever see a handful of people in an unnamed city. There are references to other people elsewhere, like a cop who works for the 'New Vice' unit and a pair who work for the 'National Organ Registry,' both of which suggest a larger society and government, but we stay with just these few people grappling with these huge ideas.
There's a lot to read into in today's world in this script, like the notion of people performing their own medicine home (Lea Seydoux used to be a doctor but actual doctors may be obsolete now), the idea of body modification can be seen as having to do with cosmetic surgery or gender surgery, and ingesting plastics is obviously highly relevant today (evidently this is one of the reasons Cronenberg pursued this script again after 2 decades); but it's also interesting that a lot of this is presented seemingly without judgment. He shows us that there are factions of people that are adamantly against these new steps in evolution, and those that want to embrace them, but I don't feel like he favors either. This is a presentation of this new reality in this version of the future and he tries to show it without taking much of a stance in either direction, but just presenting the conflict as a fact.
All in all, it's an interesting, and odd film. The kind you'd expect from Cronenberg delving back into body horror... although you could argue about whether there's much horror involved and whether the body stuff is meant to horrify at all... not that I want to have that argument ever.
If there's one major issue I have it's that it seems to end after the 2nd act. The ending seems to set up a really interesting 3rd act that never comes and the revelation at the end is not much a surprise. There are great and provocative ideas, but I don't know that they payoff with the same level of interest in which they were set up. Now maybe he wanted to preserve the idea of non-judgment and this imaginary 3rd act that I think was suggested might destroy that, but I think that it's a weaker total film for it. I think the next part of this story really could have been fascinating...Also some of the CGI isn't great, but there's not much of it.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Jun 16, 2022 17:21:28 GMT
Has anyone else seen this yet? I went last night. It's at the end of its run at my local theater, but there was a decent showing in the audience still... although I can't imagine it's made much in theaters. It's a very strange film with a very limited appeal. It's got a lot of the old Cronenberg stuff of course (he wrote this about 20 years ago), but it's very strange narratively as well. It posits a nondescript future in which humans have evolved to no longer feel pain, not be susceptible to infection, some who have the ability to digest plastics, and some who grow what seem to be superfluous organs. Viggo Mortensen is one of these people who grows these organs and he and his partner Lea Seydoux remove them in front of audiences as performance art. There are multiple subplots, some of which are very relevant, and one that doesn't seem to make much sense; and a lot of dialogue ruminating on art, evolution, surgery, etc. The line that Kristen Stewart has about 'surgery is the new sex' seems to be a lot of what this is about and also the metaphor of the artist opening up and being vulnerable is made very, very literal. But it's kinda strange that with such big and grand ideas it's a very small and contained film. The whole thing plays in a few small locations in old dilapidated buildings with no art on the walls and stains and rust and peeling paint and crumbling stone everywhere. This is clearly an intentional design choice, but it also feels like its a very mysterious if not unconsidered what the rest of this world looks like or how it functions. We only ever see a handful of people in an unnamed city. There are references to other people elsewhere, like a cop who works for the 'New Vice' unit and a pair who work for the 'National Organ Registry,' both of which suggest a larger society and government, but we stay with just these few people grappling with these huge ideas. There's a lot to read into in today's world in this script, like the notion of people performing their own medicine home (Lea Seydoux used to be a doctor but actual doctors may be obsolete now), the idea of body modification can be seen as having to do with cosmetic surgery or gender surgery, and ingesting plastics is obviously highly relevant today (evidently this is one of the reasons Cronenberg pursued this script again after 2 decades); but it's also interesting that a lot of this is presented seemingly without judgment. He shows us that there are factions of people that are adamantly against these new steps in evolution, and those that want to embrace them, but I don't feel like he favors either. This is a presentation of this new reality in this version of the future and he tries to show it without taking much of a stance in either direction, but just presenting the conflict as a fact. All in all, it's an interesting, and odd film. The kind you'd expect from Cronenberg delving back into body horror... although you could argue about whether there's much horror involved and whether the body stuff is meant to horrify at all... not that I want to have that argument ever. If there's one major issue I have it's that it seems to end after the 2nd act. The ending seems to set up a really interesting 3rd act that never comes and the revelation at the end is not much a surprise. There are great and provocative ideas, but I don't know that they payoff with the same level of interest in which they were set up. Now maybe he wanted to preserve the idea of non-judgment and this imaginary 3rd act that I think was suggested might destroy that, but I think that it's a weaker total film for it. I think the next part of this story really could have been fascinating...Also some of the CGI isn't great, but there's not much of it. Funny, I saw it last night too, and I believe it's at the end of its run in my area as well. I'd say my thoughts are similar to yours. Cronenberg can really come up with some fascinating and creative ideas, yet ultimately gets a little bit too artsy-fartsy and odd for his own good, which I thought was the case here. But I do appreciate the fact of how he is such an unconventional filmmaker who's often not afraid to take chances on his material, certainly compared to some of his more mainstream contemporaries. Yeah, that damn ending. Really had me scratching my head and thinking to myself "So that's it?!" It's as if the story just suddenly stops, and maybe should have been explored more. Overall I thought it was just okay but I wanted to like it more. I plan on seeing it again when it becomes available on streaming, and perhaps I'll have a better appreciation for it. Plus with all the multiple subplots going on, I need get some of the story points straight. I suppose you could say it is the type of movie that demands an extra viewing or two anyway.
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