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Post by politicidal on May 26, 2017 19:48:00 GMT
Acting is acting.
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Post by poelzig on May 26, 2017 20:56:37 GMT
Now they are. I think everyone acts their face off nowadays, but TV is more dependent on the writer's contribution imo. Exactly. The writer is the most important part of a quality TV show. That's why TV is for the most part better than movies these days.
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Post by poelzig on May 26, 2017 21:20:41 GMT
Yes those are all bad. As was Charlie Hunnam on Sons of Anarchy, Ruth Wilson & Dominic West on The Affair, Anna Paquin in True Blood, Cary Elwes in Saw, the male and female leads in Preacher and I could continue for many many many pages. What does pointing out other bad accents have to do with the fact I wasn't impressed with Hugh Laurie? I've been to Europe numerous times so maybe that gave me a more discerning ear. Brits and anglophiles seem to cream their pantaloons as long as a UK actors "American" accent doesn't sound like he's in the cast of Oliver. They tend to either over exaggerate the regional sound, slip into their own accent often or do that generic flat monotone thing that only seems to exist with foreign actors trying to sound "American". That last one was what Laurie did and it's okay if you don't think about it. I agree that most of the above do a poor attempt at the American accent. The best one I have heard is Damian Lewis. I was amazed when I found out he was British after watching Homeland. I guess it helps that he's also a great actor. Lewis is good. I lost interest in Homeland after he left. I was not sold on Billions at first but the second season was much better. Paul Giamatti & Lewis are both killing it.
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Post by telegonus on May 27, 2017 18:21:53 GMT
I think it's worth jumping in here to say that it strikes me that acting in films and television has changed a lot over the years. It's difficult for me to generalize, as I did earlier in this thread, but here goes: television actors in particular come off, at their best, as vastly more naturalistic than TV actors of, say, thirty or forty years ago. I think of the stars of Seventies television,--Kojak and his lollipos, Baretta and his coctatoo or whatever it was, the growling, heavy set Cannon, the always "wisecracking liberal" Hawkeyye--so much of it was schtick, actors "going into their dance". Just looking at and listening to Kiefer Sutherland today,--it's a whole new ballgame. A lot of old-style TV acting used to be nearer to vaudeville than serious acting. Not a bad thing but very different from what we have now.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 18:31:08 GMT
Of course although Laurie and his barely passable American accent is not a very good example of the quality of acting on TV these days. Barley passable??? i didn't know he wasn't American till I watched an interview with him. Maybe his accent is impressive for everyone outside the US like me but his movements and expressions are top notch. He is an an incredible actor at least for me he is. I'm American and I thought his accent was fine. Examples of actors with really shitty American accents are Freddie Highmore and Charlie Hunnam. But even Americans can do shitty American accents, like when someone from California attempts to do a New York accent....
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Post by sariz on May 27, 2017 18:53:51 GMT
Barley passable??? i didn't know he wasn't American till I watched an interview with him. Maybe his accent is impressive for everyone outside the US like me but his movements and expressions are top notch. He is an an incredible actor at least for me he is. I'm American and I thought his accent was fine. Examples of actors with really shitty American accents are Freddie Highmore and Charlie Hunnam. But even Americans can do shitty American accents, like when someone from California attempts to do a New York accent.... But it's really rare to see Americans trying specific regional accents isn't it ? Most of the times the requirements for accents is just A country's accent like the French, Italian, British Etc. because no notices the regional accents
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 19:00:28 GMT
I'm American and I thought his accent was fine. Examples of actors with really shitty American accents are Freddie Highmore and Charlie Hunnam. But even Americans can do shitty American accents, like when someone from California attempts to do a New York accent.... But it's really rare to see Americans trying specific regional accents isn't it ? Most of the times the requirements for accents is just A country's accent like the French, Italian, British Etc. because no notices the regional accents Its rare but it happens, just look at Good Will Hunting. Affleck's fake East Coast accent was pretty bad....
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Post by imia345 on Jun 3, 2017 5:21:51 GMT
Nowadays they are one in the same.I really like Kevin Spacey and Robin Wright on "House of Cards" and Taraji on "Empire". TV is now a great medium for storytelling and I think has surpassed film for performances.
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Post by socalboy83 on Jun 7, 2017 3:59:36 GMT
I think that generally, TV actors have to be better than film actors, and they've been that way since the dawn of television, when many TV shows were done live or in front of a studio audience, so that TV actors were required to be of the caliber of stage actors. Film actors always have the luxury of multiple takes, and they get to overplay dramatic roles and goof it up in comedic roles without worrying about comic timing, which in a film would be more the responsibility of film editors. TV actors, faced with more intimate levels of acting, have to be more subtle in dramatic roles. In comedies, they have to rely more on the audience's reactions in order to pace their line delivery (or in the case of a comedy with canned laughter, especially one of those painfully unfunny sitcoms, pretend that they're getting laughs). And in a long-running TV series, they have to try to keep their character constant through several seasons. Agreed
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 7, 2017 4:16:18 GMT
Bertie Wooster + Greg House = Hugh Laurie. If you didn't know it, you might not believe it.
Somehow this thread has turned into accents = good (or bad) acting so a couple of additions
Rather typical American accents on The Mentalist
Patrick Jane - Simon Baker = Australian Wayne Rigsby - Owain Yoeman - Welsh. Saw him on Midsomer Mystery and thought that he was acting the accent there ! No idea that he was not US born and bred.
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Post by 5hole on Jun 7, 2017 6:40:43 GMT
A taint is a taint is a taint.
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