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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 18:20:35 GMT
The comics and literally every other adaptation did it better, though. Not really. Defoe isn't that awesome of an actor. Jeremy Irons would have been better (and would be believable as James Franco's dad). And Irons wouldn't have been such a pussy about the prosthetic makeup they wanted to go with. So are there really no MCU villains that you feel this way about? They took away Ultron's teeth and made him an unmenacing pun machine. Crossbones was some pretty weak tea compared to the comics. And Zemo wasn't even remotely the same character. No, they didn't take away Ultron's teeth. I thought he was terrifying. You were expecting Skynet, but Ultron isn't Skynet. Or Hal. Besides, you can thank Edgar Wright for acting like a total unprofessional and not doing his job for the changes they had to make in Ultron's origins. I agree on Crossbones, though. There's more than one Zemo. This wasn't the Baron they were portraying. Besides, he was a great non-standard villain. |
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Post by charzhino on Sept 1, 2017 11:56:31 GMT
I thought he was terrifying. Read this again people. Weirdraptor thought the villain who made an omelette joke was terrifying. You MCU fanatics really are man-children. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 1, 2017 14:43:50 GMT
I thought he was terrifying. Read this again people. Weirdraptor thought the villain who made an omelette joke was terrifying. You MCU fanatics really are man-children. What does this even mean? A villain can't talk about omelettes? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 16:29:36 GMT
I thought he was terrifying. Read this again people. Weirdraptor thought the villain who made an omelette joke was terrifying. You MCU fanatics really are man-children. He was actually talking about killing people, you pathetic moron. |
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Post by charzhino on Sept 1, 2017 18:01:39 GMT
Read this again people. Weirdraptor thought the villain who made an omelette joke was terrifying. You MCU fanatics really are man-children. What does this even mean? A villain can't talk about omelettes? The line was put in to give the audience laughs. Any villain that makes such a lame joke doesn't deserve the title of being "terrifying ". |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 18:03:10 GMT
What does this even mean? A villain can't talk about omelettes? The line was put in to give the audience laughs. Any villain that makes such a lame joke doesn't deserve the title of being "terrifying ". Last time I checked, you were in no position to decide what goes. And you still aren't. Also, he was actually talking about killing people. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Sept 1, 2017 20:39:36 GMT
What does this even mean? A villain can't talk about omelettes? The line was put in to give the audience laughs. Any villain that makes such a lame joke doesn't deserve the title of being "terrifying ". Why not? I mean, Freddy Krueger... |
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Post by formersamhmd on Sept 1, 2017 20:42:56 GMT
I thought he was terrifying. Read this again people. Weirdraptor thought the villain who made an omelette joke was terrifying. You MCU fanatics really are man-children. As opposed to Magneto making a joke about Rogue's hair? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 20:57:00 GMT
Read this again people. Weirdraptor thought the villain who made an omelette joke was terrifying. You MCU fanatics really are man-children. As opposed to Magneto making a joke about Rogue's hair? Or anytime Toad verbally sniped Sabertooth in the first movie. Apparently, quipping is only okay when the FoX-Men do it. |
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Post by blockbusted on Sept 1, 2017 21:01:58 GMT
The line was put in to give the audience laughs. Any villain that makes such a lame joke doesn't deserve the title of being "terrifying ". Why not? I mean, Freddy Krueger... And Ultron said "I'm sorry" to Klaue after cutting off his arm. That's actually kind of disturbing. |
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Post by HaveYourselfaMerryLittleAckbar on Sept 1, 2017 23:12:57 GMT
Read this again people. Weirdraptor thought the villain who made an omelette joke was terrifying. You MCU fanatics really are man-children. As opposed to Magneto making a joke about Rogue's hair? That was meant to be creepy though, because he is responsible for the white streaks when he tried to kill her in movie one. Just sayin. |
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Post by HaveYourselfaMerryLittleAckbar on Sept 1, 2017 23:17:30 GMT
Ultron's dialogue in his first few scenes is pretty great: "I had to kill the other guy, he was a good guy". I can't quote the rest off the top of my head, but everything he says in Stark Tower is gold. Creepy yet quirky.
I wish they'd kept that tone throughout. He gets a bit cartoony after that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 23:21:01 GMT
As opposed to Magneto making a joke about Rogue's hair? That was meant to be creepy though, because he is responsible for the white streaks when he tried to kill her in movie one. Just sayin. But it wasn't creepy. |
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Post by HaveYourselfaMerryLittleAckbar on Sept 1, 2017 23:29:44 GMT
That was meant to be creepy though, because he is responsible for the white streaks when he tried to kill her in movie one. Just sayin. But it wasn't creepy. It was creepy. Besides, I always liked that they had Magneto acknowledge her in some way. They easily could've overlooked the fact that she and Magneto have a history and they didn't. I give them major credit for that. It was small moment, but those are the ones that really matter. It was good attention to detail taking advantage of the characters and their various relationships. There were a lot of great moments like that in the scenes that followed- Mystique and Wolverine acknowledging their previous fight, Mystique and Nightcrawler talking about being different. Great character moments. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 23:42:25 GMT
It was creepy. Besides, I always liked that they had Magneto acknowledge her in some way. They easily could've overlooked the fact that she and Magneto have a history and they didn't. I give them major credit for that. It was small moment, but those are the ones that really matter. It was good attention to detail taking advantage of the characters and their various relationships. There were a lot of great moments like that in the scenes that followed- Mystique and Wolverine acknowledging their previous fight, Mystique and Nightcrawler talking about being different. Great character moments. I remember thinking Magneto was an asshole for saying that, but it didn't creep me out. Oh, please, if the X-Men films were good with character-building, we'd have had a better Cyclops, a better Jean, and certainly a more memorable Iceman. I didn't think any of those moments you just brought up were great. |
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Post by HaveYourselfaMerryLittleAckbar on Sept 1, 2017 23:50:48 GMT
It was creepy. Besides, I always liked that they had Magneto acknowledge her in some way. They easily could've overlooked the fact that she and Magneto have a history and they didn't. I give them major credit for that. It was small moment, but those are the ones that really matter. It was good attention to detail taking advantage of the characters and their various relationships. There were a lot of great moments like that in the scenes that followed- Mystique and Wolverine acknowledging their previous fight, Mystique and Nightcrawler talking about being different. Great character moments. I remember thinking Magneto was an asshole for saying that, but it didn't creep me out. Oh, please, if the X-Men films were good with character-building, we'd have had a better Cyclops, a better Jean, and certainly a more memorable Iceman. I didn't think any of those moments you just brought up were great. Ok, so maybe it was more of an asshole move than a true creepy moment. I'll give you that. But that doesn't change my original point which was that it had weight/backstory and wasn't a throw away joke as formersmbdsm suggested. And yes, Cyclops got screwed. I hate that more than anyone. I didn't say these movies were perfect, but those moments I mentioned were the mark of good writing. Taking the time to think about the dynamics between all of the characters, however minor, and then adding in small moments to acknowledge them earn a screenplay high marks in my book. Civil War did a good job there too. The moment with Cap and Spidey saying they were from Brooklyn and Queens, respectively, was the same type of thing. |
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Post by HaveYourselfaMerryLittleAckbar on Sept 1, 2017 23:52:42 GMT
What does this even mean? A villain can't talk about omelettes? The line was put in to give the audience laughs. Any villain that makes such a lame joke doesn't deserve the title of being "terrifying ". Actually Ultron was referencing this deleted scene... |
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Post by charzhino on Sept 2, 2017 0:09:20 GMT
Read this again people. Weirdraptor thought the villain who made an omelette joke was terrifying. You MCU fanatics really are man-children. As opposed to Magneto making a joke about Rogue's hair? A jibe more than a joke, that actually has relevance and context from their encounter in X1. And also followed up by one of the best scenes in the film where he asks John for his real name. Ultrons omelette joke is not only irrelevant, its childish and so bad that its funny. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 0:13:06 GMT
As opposed to Magneto making a joke about Rogue's hair? A jibe more than a joke, that actually has relevance and context from their encounter in X1. And also followed up by one of the best scenes in the film where he asks John for his real name. Ultrons omelette joke is not only irrelevant, its childish and so bad that its funny. Wrong again, bj. If the joke was in a Fox movie, you'd be praising it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 0:14:57 GMT
I remember thinking Magneto was an asshole for saying that, but it didn't creep me out. Oh, please, if the X-Men films were good with character-building, we'd have had a better Cyclops, a better Jean, and certainly a more memorable Iceman. I didn't think any of those moments you just brought up were great. Ok, so maybe it was more of an asshole move than a true creepy moment. I'll give you that. But that doesn't change my original point which was that it had had weight/backstory and wasn't a throw away joke as formersmbdsm suggested. And yes, Cyclops got screwed. I hate that more than anyone. I didn't say these movies were perfect, but those moments I mentioned were the mark of good writing. Taking the time to think about the dynamics between all of the characters, however minor, and then adding in small moments to acknowledge them earn a screenplay high marks in my book. Civil War did a good job there too. The moment with Cap and Spidey saying they were from Brooklyn and Queens, respectively, was the same type of thing. Fair enough. I just have a hard time giving the X-Men films much credit anymore, and believe me, I've tried going back to them. Can't do it. The first film is just so dry and the action scenes are so visually unappealing, except for Wolverine, Sabertooth, and Toad. I was rewatching the statue of liberty fights and just kept thinking, "Dear God, this movie needs Gambit and Beast." |
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