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Post by thisguy4000 on May 26, 2022 1:39:25 GMT
With all the multiverse stuff going on in the MCU right now, that seems like the only obvious answer. I assume it’ll be what people assumed Multiverse of Madness would be; a big fanservicey cameo fest. Does anyone have any directors in mind for something like that?
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Post by onethreetwo on May 26, 2022 2:28:36 GMT
Give it to Raimi. My guess is they promised him something bigger and better if he Doctor Strange 2. Directing a Marvel sequel is below Raimi, so maybe they have bigger plans for him. Who else are you going to trust?
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Post by politicidal on May 26, 2022 14:36:18 GMT
Jon Favreau.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 28, 2022 2:46:28 GMT
Yeah, seems that way. I've looked into the books, & yet are told they're juvenile? Not bad, just geared for younger readers??
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 29, 2022 22:29:16 GMT
Secret Wars isn't a bad thing to follow up after the Infinity Gauntlet storyline.
Still hopefully they get the right director and writers for it.
As for who? Not sure. I know the Russo Brothers have said to be interested in adapting it, but honestly? I'm kinda hoping we get some new blood for the next Avengers film.
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Post by politicidal on May 30, 2022 1:32:34 GMT
Secret Wars isn't a bad thing to follow up after the Infinity Gauntlet storyline. Still hopefully they get the right director and writers for it. As for who? Not sure. I know the Russo Brothers have said to be interested in adapting it, but honestly? I'm kinda hoping we get some new blood for the next Avengers film. Zack Snyder’s available from what I heard.
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Post by Skaathar on May 30, 2022 21:29:30 GMT
Secret Wars isn't a bad thing to follow up after the Infinity Gauntlet storyline. Still hopefully they get the right director and writers for it. As for who? Not sure. I know the Russo Brothers have said to be interested in adapting it, but honestly? I'm kinda hoping we get some new blood for the next Avengers film. Nah, at this point I'd prefer a tried and tested hand for a project this big. They can test out new blood on smaller MCU films. But a massive crossover like the Secret Wars? I wouldn't trust that to anyone except the Russo brothers at this point. Even Whedon fumbled when AoU got a bit too massive, and outside the Russo Brothers he's been the only director with a track record of successfully pulling off a massive crossover ensemble movie.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2022 17:08:20 GMT
Give it to Raimi. My guess is they promised him something bigger and better if he Doctor Strange 2. Directing a Marvel sequel is below Raimi, so maybe they have bigger plans for him. Who else are you going to trust? Yes, please! Although, I’d actually rather he do Dr Strange 3. He would likely have more autonomy with a solo movie.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 31, 2022 17:09:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2022 17:09:49 GMT
Yeah, seems that way. I've looked into the books, & yet are told they're juvenile? Not bad, just geared for younger readers?? I think that’s said about the first one, from the 80s. There’s a second “Secret Wars” from about a decade ago. That’s the one they’d be more likely to adapt.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2022 17:14:48 GMT
Secret Wars isn't a bad thing to follow up after the Infinity Gauntlet storyline. Still hopefully they get the right director and writers for it. As for who? Not sure. I know the Russo Brothers have said to be interested in adapting it, but honestly? I'm kinda hoping we get some new blood for the next Avengers film. Nah, at this point I'd prefer a tried and tested hand for a project this big. They can test out new blood on smaller MCU films. But a massive crossover like the Secret Wars? I wouldn't trust that to anyone except the Russo brothers at this point. Even Whedon fumbled when AoU got a bit too massive, and outside the Russo Brothers he's been the only director with a track record of successfully pulling off a massive crossover ensemble movie. I give far more credit to the screenwriters. People give credit to the Russos but really it was Markus and McFreely that made it work so well. Marvel should hire them back to write with new directors. “New blood” doesn’t necessarily mean inexperienced. There are far better directors than the Russos out there. Visually, they are quite bland- which is why I don’t want them back.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2022 17:18:54 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 31, 2022 17:37:55 GMT
Nah, at this point I'd prefer a tried and tested hand for a project this big. They can test out new blood on smaller MCU films. But a massive crossover like the Secret Wars? I wouldn't trust that to anyone except the Russo brothers at this point. Even Whedon fumbled when AoU got a bit too massive, and outside the Russo Brothers he's been the only director with a track record of successfully pulling off a massive crossover ensemble movie. I give far more credit to the screenwriters. People give credit to the Russos but really it was Markus and McFreely that made it work so well. Marvel should hire them back to write with new directors. “New blood” doesn’t necessarily mean inexperienced. There are far better directors than the Russos out there. Visually, they are quite bland- which is why I don’t want them back. OH!
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Post by Skaathar on May 31, 2022 19:36:18 GMT
Nah, at this point I'd prefer a tried and tested hand for a project this big. They can test out new blood on smaller MCU films. But a massive crossover like the Secret Wars? I wouldn't trust that to anyone except the Russo brothers at this point. Even Whedon fumbled when AoU got a bit too massive, and outside the Russo Brothers he's been the only director with a track record of successfully pulling off a massive crossover ensemble movie. I give far more credit to the screenwriters. People give credit to the Russos but really it was Markus and McFreely that made it work so well. Marvel should hire them back to write with new directors. “New blood” doesn’t necessarily mean inexperienced. There are far better directors than the Russos out there. Visually, they are quite bland- which is why I don’t want them back. Not at making crossover ensemble movies there aren't. Think about it: The Avengers was the first ever movie of it's kind, where multiple standalone properties crossovered into one big ensemble movie. And the beauty of the movie, was that each character was given decent development and screentime. Civil War and Infinity War had an even bigger cast of characters to juggle and the Russo's were still able to handle them in a way that allowed various characters to shine properly. I don't think people understand just how difficult it is to do something like that. 15 years ago the concept of a crossover movie like that would have seemed impossible. No other movie director out there has done that. Heck, no other studio has even come close to pulling off something like this. DC/WB tried and failed miserably with JL. So no, there aren't any directors out there who have proven to be better than the Russo's at handling a massive crossover movie of this scale. And yes, the writers are obviously important, but it's still the director who manages to balance screen time and character development so that you don't end up with one big gigantic mess of characters. Heck, just look at what most of the X-Men movies looked like. That's what happens when you put too many superheroes in the same show and the director doesn't know how to handle them all.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2022 19:40:36 GMT
I give far more credit to the screenwriters. People give credit to the Russos but really it was Markus and McFreely that made it work so well. Marvel should hire them back to write with new directors. “New blood” doesn’t necessarily mean inexperienced. There are far better directors than the Russos out there. Visually, they are quite bland- which is why I don’t want them back. Not at making crossover ensemble movies there aren't. Think about it: The Avengers was the first ever movie of it's kind, where multiple standalone properties crossovered into one big ensemble movie. And the beauty of the movie, was that each character was given decent development and screentime. Civil War and Infinity War had an even bigger cast of characters in a crossover movie, and these movies were still handled in a way that allowed various characters to shine properly. No other movie director out there has done that. Heck, no other studio has even come close to pulling off something like this. DC/WB tried and failed miserably with JL. So no, there aren't any directors out there who have proven to be better than the Russo's at handling a massive crossover movie like this. And yes, the writers are obviously important, but it's still the director who manages to balance screen time and character development so that you don't end up with one big gigantic mess of characters. Heck, just look at what most of the X-Men movies looked like. That's what happens when you put too many superheroes in the same show and the director doesn't know how to handle an ensemble cast. I don’t mean to take credit away from them. They do indeed do an excellent job balancing the cast of characters. But… I’d hate to be stuck with their underwhelming visual style for another big MCU movie. Infinity War really suffers from its lack of interesting camera work and bland cinematography.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on May 31, 2022 19:58:34 GMT
Secret Wars isn't a bad thing to follow up after the Infinity Gauntlet storyline. Still hopefully they get the right director and writers for it. As for who? Not sure. I know the Russo Brothers have said to be interested in adapting it, but honestly? I'm kinda hoping we get some new blood for the next Avengers film. Zack Snyder’s available from what I heard. Fuck it! Let's do it! At the very least the film will have some great visual shots.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 1, 2022 2:18:51 GMT
Not at making crossover ensemble movies there aren't. Think about it: The Avengers was the first ever movie of it's kind, where multiple standalone properties crossovered into one big ensemble movie. And the beauty of the movie, was that each character was given decent development and screentime. Civil War and Infinity War had an even bigger cast of characters in a crossover movie, and these movies were still handled in a way that allowed various characters to shine properly. No other movie director out there has done that. Heck, no other studio has even come close to pulling off something like this. DC/WB tried and failed miserably with JL. So no, there aren't any directors out there who have proven to be better than the Russo's at handling a massive crossover movie like this. And yes, the writers are obviously important, but it's still the director who manages to balance screen time and character development so that you don't end up with one big gigantic mess of characters. Heck, just look at what most of the X-Men movies looked like. That's what happens when you put too many superheroes in the same show and the director doesn't know how to handle an ensemble cast. I don’t mean to take credit away from them. They do indeed do an excellent job balancing the cast of characters. But… I’d hate to be stuck with their underwhelming visual style for another big MCU movie. Infinity War really suffers from its lack of interesting camera work and bland cinematography. Remember that the Russo's weren't just given the big ensemble movies out of nowhere. They first had to prove themselves with CA:TWS. The MCU hiring a completely new director for Secret Wars would be a horrible business decision. If they want new blood, then the logical way to do it is test that new director with one of their lesser movies and then give them Secret Wars if they prove themselves. Someone like Jon Watts would be a logical choice or maybe even Taika Waititi based on their previous work with MCU films. And yeah, the Russo's color palette is lacking, but I'd take their balanced character development and crisp fight scenes over Snyder's beautiful cinematography and schizophrenic turle pacing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2022 3:36:27 GMT
I don’t mean to take credit away from them. They do indeed do an excellent job balancing the cast of characters. But… I’d hate to be stuck with their underwhelming visual style for another big MCU movie. Infinity War really suffers from its lack of interesting camera work and bland cinematography. Remember that the Russo's weren't just given the big ensemble movies out of nowhere. They first had to prove themselves with CA:TWS. The MCU hiring a completely new director for Secret Wars would be a horrible business decision. If they want new blood, then the logical way to do it is test that new director with one of their lesser movies and then give them Secret Wars if they prove themselves. Someone like Jon Watts would be a logical choice or maybe even Taika Waititi based on their previous work with MCU films. And yeah, the Russo's color palette is lacking, but I'd take their balanced character development and crisp fight scenes over Snyder's beautiful cinematography and schizophrenic turle pacing. Yeah, but they also don’t have to hire nobodies all the time. There are plenty of directors who have proven themselves already, just maybe not specifically in the sub-genre of comic movies or the MCU, but that’s okay. You wouldn’t have to test someone like that on a solo movie first. They didn’t have to test Whedon like that. That said, if they do hire the Russos I won’t complain. They’re a solid, if not overly safe, choice for something like this. And if it’s gotta be someone already experienced in the MCU then them and Raimi are the only ones qualified to do it. Jon Watts shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near it. It’s bad enough that he was allowed to direct three Spider-Man movies.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 1, 2022 4:43:14 GMT
Remember that the Russo's weren't just given the big ensemble movies out of nowhere. They first had to prove themselves with CA:TWS. The MCU hiring a completely new director for Secret Wars would be a horrible business decision. If they want new blood, then the logical way to do it is test that new director with one of their lesser movies and then give them Secret Wars if they prove themselves. Someone like Jon Watts would be a logical choice or maybe even Taika Waititi based on their previous work with MCU films. And yeah, the Russo's color palette is lacking, but I'd take their balanced character development and crisp fight scenes over Snyder's beautiful cinematography and schizophrenic turle pacing. Yeah, but they also don’t have to hire nobodies all the time. There are plenty of directors who have proven themselves already, just maybe not specifically in the sub-genre of comic movies or the MCU, but that’s okay. You wouldn’t have to test someone like that on a solo movie first. They didn’t have to test Whedon like that. That said, if they do hire the Russos I won’t complain. They’re a solid, if not overly safe, choice for something like this. And if it’s gotta be someone already experienced in the MCU then them and Raimi are the only ones qualified to do it. Jon Watts shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near it. It’s bad enough that he was allowed to direct three Spider-Man movies. It's not about experience in comicbook movies, it's about experience in handling a large ensemble of crossover characters... and no director can really get that kind of experience outside the MCU. Sam Raimi would be a pretty bad choice based on how he handled Dr. Strange MoM and Spiderman 3. Even though I liked Dr. Strange MoM, it only revolved around 2 and a half main characters. The moment you added more characters into the mix Raimi started fumbling (just look at how the Illuminati were handled). And if you need further proof, look at how he handled Spiderman 3 which was the Spiderman movie where he had to juggle the most amount of characters. Joss Whedon was a shot in the dark, but his handling of Firefly and Serenity at least gave him some degree of experience in handling big ensemble casts... yet look at what happened when they gave him an even bigger assignment with AoU. I'm not against getting new but experienced directors for the MCU movies, but when it comes to their tentpole crossover films I'd prefer they at least give it to someone who's already proven himself (or herself). Secret Wars will be a massive movie. MASSIVE. And there's really no other directors out there who have experience in handling a movie that massive outside of the Russos. It's a bit risky giving a film like that to an untested director and then it ends up becoming like Black Widow or Captain Marvel or something. If for some reason they couldn't get the Russo's to direct this flick, I'd probably prefer utilizing a previous MCU director that had proven themselves already rather than hiring someone brand new. Watts, Waititi, Gunn, Favreau, maybe even Whedon (though I'm pretty sure he's blacklisted in Hollywood by now). All I'm saying is that there's a reason why no other studio has been able to copy the crossover success of the MCU so far. Not even a movie to match The Avengers, nevermind Civil War, Infinity War or Endgame. It's because it's just not easy. Snyder needed 4 hours to get some kind of coherence just juggling 5-6 characters. The X-Men movies could only focus on 3-4 main characters then utilized the others as wallflowers. The Spiderman movies only handled a large ensemble with No Way home and that was partially due to the MCU's assistance and guidance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2022 15:34:34 GMT
Yeah, but they also don’t have to hire nobodies all the time. There are plenty of directors who have proven themselves already, just maybe not specifically in the sub-genre of comic movies or the MCU, but that’s okay. You wouldn’t have to test someone like that on a solo movie first. They didn’t have to test Whedon like that. That said, if they do hire the Russos I won’t complain. They’re a solid, if not overly safe, choice for something like this. And if it’s gotta be someone already experienced in the MCU then them and Raimi are the only ones qualified to do it. Jon Watts shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near it. It’s bad enough that he was allowed to direct three Spider-Man movies. It's not about experience in comicbook movies, it's about experience in handling a large ensemble of crossover characters... and no director can really get that kind of experience outside the MCU. Sam Raimi would be a pretty bad choice based on how he handled Dr. Strange MoM and Spiderman 3. Even though I liked Dr. Strange MoM, it only revolved around 2 and a half main characters. The moment you added more characters into the mix Raimi started fumbling (just look at how the Illuminati were handled). And if you need further proof, look at how he handled Spiderman 3 which was the Spiderman movie where he had to juggle the most amount of characters. Joss Whedon was a shot in the dark, but his handling of Firefly and Serenity at least gave him some degree of experience in handling big ensemble casts... yet look at what happened when they gave him an even bigger assignment with AoU. I'm not against getting new but experienced directors for the MCU movies, but when it comes to their tentpole crossover films I'd prefer they at least give it to someone who's already proven himself (or herself). Secret Wars will be a massive movie. MASSIVE. And there's really no other directors out there who have experience in handling a movie that massive outside of the Russos. It's a bit risky giving a film like that to an untested director and then it ends up becoming like Black Widow or Captain Marvel or something. If for some reason they couldn't get the Russo's to direct this flick, I'd probably prefer utilizing a previous MCU director that had proven themselves already rather than hiring someone brand new. Watts, Waititi, Gunn, Favreau, maybe even Whedon (though I'm pretty sure he's blacklisted in Hollywood by now). All I'm saying is that there's a reason why no other studio has been able to copy the crossover success of the MCU so far. Not even a movie to match The Avengers, nevermind Civil War, Infinity War or Endgame. It's because it's just not easy. Snyder needed 4 hours to get some kind of coherence just juggling 5-6 characters. The X-Men movies could only focus on 3-4 main characters then utilized the others as wallflowers. The Spiderman movies only handled a large ensemble with No Way home and that was partially due to the MCU's assistance and guidance. Point taken. I don’t disagree. I do still say the screenplay is more important in juggling the characters than the directors and The Illuminati and Spider-Man 3 were not Raimi’s fault at all, but rather the way those extra characters were randomly jammed into the script. Give Raimi the script for Infinity War and I doubt he’d do a worse job than the Russos. But even if he did lack some of the ability to balance characters I still say that’s well worth the trade off considering his visual creativity is about a hundred times better than the Russos. I’m just so sick of the boring MCU “house style”.
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