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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 2, 2022 17:30:55 GMT
Holy Shit...
JAMS & JELLIES!
Got bread & peanut butter here at home, but needed some more jam/jelly today when I went to the store... That section was half empty, and the store was limiting the purchase of only two jars per customer!
Never seen that before...
Went to Two Walmarts & a Meijer today in order to make sure I got everything on my list... Got most of it...
Prices didn't seem to be higher, but selections were poor for many items or they were sold out... And I noticed a lot of stickers on the shelves limiting the quantities that can be purchased, and these were for things that hadn't been restricted before, during the last two years...
LIMIT 2 cans of Dinty Moore "Chicken & Dumplings" and/or "Beef Stew" meals...
Lots of canned goods... had purchasing limits...
Not sure if companies are preparing for the worst in the next couple of months... or if the demand is just so high, and so they are trying to limit sales to keep price gougings/product scalpings down for all customers, so that everyone can get their fair share.
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Post by divtal on Jun 2, 2022 21:26:30 GMT
I last shopped early on Sunday morning.
I can't say that I saw a worsening situation with empty shelves, nor have I seen any signs that limit "per customer" purchases. However, it was very early (6:30), so employees may not have been fully into stocking, yet. Also, the store has noticeable "Now Hiring," signs on the door, and at check-out.
Tomorrow, a neighbor and I are going to hit Costco, for an apx. once-a-month visit. I'll report back, if there are real signs of shortages.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 3, 2022 3:57:59 GMT
Was in two large supermarkets today and didn't see anything unusual.
Except the kombucha I bought the past few weeks went from $2.79 to $3.28.
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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 3, 2022 18:19:38 GMT
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jun 3, 2022 18:23:59 GMT
He posted it and the heading is misleading. The article says NOTHING about "farmers cannot afford diesel" or that being a cause of an impending food shortage.
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Post by Heretic the Musk Whisperer on Jun 3, 2022 18:27:21 GMT
He posted it and the heading is misleading. The article says NOTHING about "farmers cannot afford diesel" or that being a cause of an impending food shortage. I live in an agricultural area. I have first hand knowledge. South Georgia farmers are not usually filthy rich.
Prepare a big hit to peanuts in particular, as we are the "Peanut capital of the world".
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Post by Heretic the Musk Whisperer on Jun 3, 2022 18:31:45 GMT
I've been warning about this since March. There's several threads about it. There's also unfavorable weather conditions in much of the USA for planting this year, and famines in India and East Africa. This is going to be bad. imdb2.freeforums.net/post/5358972/thread
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jun 3, 2022 18:40:29 GMT
He posted it and the heading is misleading. The article says NOTHING about "farmers cannot afford diesel" or that being a cause of an impending food shortage. I live in an agricultural area. I have first hand knowledge. So do I .... <shrug> Point is that the article does not support your "opinion" ... why you even bother to attach the articles is a mystery because they rarely do. Things are going to cost farmers more. NOTHING in the article about "farmers cannot afford diesel"!
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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 3, 2022 18:44:13 GMT
I've been warning about this since March. There's several threads about it. There's also unfavorable weather conditions in much of the USA for planting this year, and famines in India and East Africa. This is going to be bad. IMDB2.freeforums.net/post/5358972/thread We've got a domino effect going on, and it's looping back around and it's getting worse, each time. Just saw another article TODAY, taking about fuel prices rising. AGAIN!... (Also another local business is shutting it's doors.) These farmers aren't rich, and don't have the manpower they need to properly farm... Sooner or later something's got to give. Pretty soon, even food shippers won't be able to afford to ship the food if it's available... at least without another price increase to cover their services... or well see fewer shipments. By the way, do we still have cargo ships sitting in harbors due to Covid? It amazes me, how some people just can't see the bigger picture... Less Food, Less Gas, Fewer Shipments, Higher Prices... Rinse and Repeat.
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Post by Heretic the Musk Whisperer on Jun 3, 2022 18:46:06 GMT
I live in an agricultural area. I have first hand knowledge. So do I .... <shrug> Point is that the article does not support your "opinion" ... why you even bother to attach the articles is a mystery because they rarely do. Things are going to cost farmers more. NOTHING in the article about "farmers cannot afford diesel"! Diesel has doubled in price and was already on of the biggest expenses to begin with. Do you seriously think there are no farmers who won't plant now that their operating costs have gone up so much? The margins of small and even medium farmers weren't very big to begin with, which is why they rely on subsidies so much.
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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 3, 2022 18:46:15 GMT
I live in an agricultural area. I have first hand knowledge. So do I .... <shrug> Point is that the article does not support your "opinion" ... why you even bother to attach the articles is a mystery because they rarely do. Things are going to cost farmers more. NOTHING in the article about "farmers cannot afford diesel"! And HOW are they going to pay for it??? Sooner or later, there will be an operational wall, they can't over come. Maybe not today... But it's rapidly approaching. It's a shame that you can see the bigger picture.
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Post by Heretic the Musk Whisperer on Jun 3, 2022 18:49:41 GMT
I've been warning about this since March. There's several threads about it. There's also unfavorable weather conditions in much of the USA for planting this year, and famines in India and East Africa. This is going to be bad. IMDB2.freeforums.net/post/5358972/threadWe've got a domino effect going on, and it's looping back around and it's getting worse, each time. Just saw another article TODAY, taking about fuel prices rising. AGAIN!... (Also another local business is shutting it's doors.) These farmers aren't rich, and don't have the manpower they need to properly farm... Sooner or later something's got to give. Pretty soon, even food shippers won't be able to afford to ship the food if it's available... at least without another price increase to cover their services... or well see fewer shipments. By the way, do we still have cargo ships sitting in harbors due to Covid?It amazes me, how some people just can't see the bigger picture... Less Food, Less Gas, Fewer Shipments, Higher Prices... Rinse and Repeat. The Black Sea is currently blockaded by Russia, and it was a major source of food exports in the world.
The queue at ports has eased up some, but it's still an issue.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jun 3, 2022 18:51:20 GMT
So do I .... <shrug> Point is that the article does not support your "opinion" ... why you even bother to attach the articles is a mystery because they rarely do. Things are going to cost farmers more. NOTHING in the article about "farmers cannot afford diesel"! Diesel has doubled in price and was already on of the biggest expenses to begin with. Do you seriously think there are no farmers who won't plant now that their operating costs have gone up so much? The margins of small and even medium farmers weren't very big to begin with, which is why they rely on subsidies so much.
Farmers here have all planted already and some have the first hay crops ready and waiting for picking up. BUT you are sidestepping the FACT that your opinion heading is not supported by your article. Again ! As usual!
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jun 3, 2022 18:55:17 GMT
So do I .... <shrug> Point is that the article does not support your "opinion" ... why you even bother to attach the articles is a mystery because they rarely do. Things are going to cost farmers more. NOTHING in the article about "farmers cannot afford diesel"! And HOW are they going to pay for it??? Sooner or later, there will be an operational wall, they can't over come. Maybe not today... But it's rapidly approaching. It's a shame that you can see the bigger picture. I said nothing to indicate what I think about the "bigger picture" ... I pointed out that Heretics OPINION (in his heading) was is not supported by the actual article. Their costs go up yes ...nothing about them not being able to afford those costs. and ON TOPIC: Much of the "food shortage" right now is because of a shortage of CANS !
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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 3, 2022 18:57:41 GMT
And HOW are they going to pay for it??? Sooner or later, there will be an operational wall, they can't over come. Maybe not today... But it's rapidly approaching. It's a shame that you can see the bigger picture. I said nothing to indicate what I think about the "bigger picture" ... I pointed out that Heretics OPINION (in his heading) was is not supported by the actual article. Their costs go up yes ...nothing about them not being able to afford those costs. and ON TOPIC:Much of the "food shortage" right now is because of a shortage of CANS ! The Jelly I bought was in a Glass Jar.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jun 3, 2022 19:01:29 GMT
Much of the "food shortage" right now is because of a shortage of CANS ! The Jelly I bought was in a Glass Jar. Yah .. I know ....jelly usually is !  Much of other food shortage is because of cans stuck in some pipeline or other ! The spaghetti sauce I like is in cans and the shelves are bare.
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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 3, 2022 19:04:15 GMT
I posted this in another thread a week ago, but can't find it now... But it seems it's time for a repost anyway.
Jimmy definitely sees all those dominos out there getting ready to be tipped... Maybe it won't happen in the next couple of months, or maybe it won't happen at all (I hope not)... But all the factors ARE in place.
Like it or not.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jun 3, 2022 19:06:22 GMT
I can't say that I saw a worsening situation with empty shelves, nor have I seen any signs that limit "per customer" purchases. At the beginning of the pandemic .... ages ago .... Aldi's and WallyWorld both had limits on the makings for chili - tomatoes, beans etc. and even so the shelves were severely depleted. So far, everything is back to as many as you want ..but some things are missing. Like gaps in canned soups aisle!
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Post by Heretic the Musk Whisperer on Jun 3, 2022 19:06:39 GMT
I said nothing to indicate what I think about the "bigger picture" ... I pointed out that Heretics OPINION (in his heading) was is not supported by the actual article. Their costs go up yes ...nothing about them not being able to afford those costs. and ON TOPIC:Much of the "food shortage" right now is because of a shortage of CANS ! The Jelly I bought was in a Glass Jar. There's also a glass shortage.
Here, the Miller-Coors plant stopped shipping beer bottles because they couldn't get the glass. They went all cans for a few weeks.
If you go to a liquor store, you'll see 'fancy' brands that you would never expect to be in anything but glass in plastic bottles. Particularly in the bourbons and whiskeys.
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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 3, 2022 19:12:48 GMT
And if you think about it... There is a ship shortage too... Possibly trucks or trains as well...
For every ship, sitting in a harbor for days or weeks, unable to offload it's cargo... It's not making other shipment runs during that time...
The companies aren't just going to buy or rent more ships, in the mean time... and that's assuming they can afford to do that. (Maybe raise prices some more to do that?)
Another part of that Domino Effect I mentioned.
Oh, and those need fuel too...
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