|
|
Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 21, 2022 18:19:00 GMT
Yeah I thought he parents were reasonable enough.
|
|
|
|
Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 21, 2022 18:23:06 GMT
I tried watching it again and then turned it off when Kamala’s parents blamed Britain for the partition of India and the Bangladesh Liberation war. What's wrong with them talking about that? Seems reasonable. |
|
|
|
Post by Power Ranger on Jun 21, 2022 20:18:36 GMT
I tried watching it again and then turned it off when Kamala’s parents blamed Britain for the partition of India and the Bangladesh Liberation war. What's wrong with them talking about that? Seems reasonable. My issue was with the blaming of Britain for the Bangladesh Liberation War. If that seems reasonable to you then I’d suggest that you are wrong. |
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Jun 22, 2022 10:14:50 GMT
Really good episode 3. Fun fight scene to Bon Jovi.
|
|
|
|
Post by Power Ranger on Jun 22, 2022 12:21:49 GMT
Yeah, but she's asking to go hang over at a friend's place with "some other people". Considering how suspicious her mom was about Avengerscon it looked completely inconsistent that she didn't ask any follow up questions about this "party". Most parents (even those not super conservative) would at least ask who else was there, or whether the parents were around, or how many people were going, etc. And all this was after the fact that Kamala had already once broken curfew/house rules and ran away to Avengerscon despite being told not to. If the Khan's are as conservative as this show is making them out to be, what would follow is probably Kamala getting grounded at minimum. That the mom is just so perfectly fine letting her go to this party right after that is proof of the weak writing in this series. They basically allow things to happen just to get stuff rolling even if it means writing inconsistently stupid stuff. I don't find it inconsistent at all. Theres a big difference between a convention event where Kamala planned on being dressed in a skin tight outfit to going over a friends house and being home at 9. Also Kamala was going to be allowed to go to Avengercon but her parent wanted to go with her, proving that they were already trying to compromise. It's something Im sure most parents of teenagers deal with. The teens wanting to go out and do their own things and the parents trying to protect them from anything they view as potentially dangerous. I still ask though...are the Khans really that conservative? To me they feel like a pretty normal protective yet loving parents of a teenage girl. Its a family dynamic that is very common in teen comedies and dramas. The writers are trying to have it both ways. The family are observant Muslims who attend Mosque but are otherwise liberal enough to please general audiences. I get why the writers did that. If they were a secular family many Muslim audiences would tune out and if they were more typical of observant Muslims then the less than palatable aspects of their faith would repel non- Muslims. I suggested that I found it atypical of an observant Muslim family to welcome so warmly into their household a young white male of their teenage daughter and I stick by that. If you knew many Pakistani Muslims you would not think that it was typical. That’s just the reality. This is one of the most tribal cultures on Earth, make no doubt about it. |
|
|
|
Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 22, 2022 14:52:45 GMT
So making Kamala a Djinn is an interesting creative choice for sure.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Jun 22, 2022 17:33:43 GMT
Yeah, but she's asking to go hang over at a friend's place with "some other people". Considering how suspicious her mom was about Avengerscon it looked completely inconsistent that she didn't ask any follow up questions about this "party". Most parents (even those not super conservative) would at least ask who else was there, or whether the parents were around, or how many people were going, etc. And all this was after the fact that Kamala had already once broken curfew/house rules and ran away to Avengerscon despite being told not to. If the Khan's are as conservative as this show is making them out to be, what would follow is probably Kamala getting grounded at minimum. That the mom is just so perfectly fine letting her go to this party right after that is proof of the weak writing in this series. They basically allow things to happen just to get stuff rolling even if it means writing inconsistently stupid stuff. I don't find it inconsistent at all. Theres a big difference between a convention event where Kamala planned on being dressed in a skin tight outfit to going over a friends house and being home at 9. Also Kamala was going to be allowed to go to Avengercon but her parent wanted to go with her, proving that they were already trying to compromise. It's something Im sure most parents of teenagers deal with. The teens wanting to go out and do their own things and the parents trying to protect them from anything they view as potentially dangerous. I still ask though...are the Khans really that conservative? To me they feel like a pretty normal protective yet loving parents of a teenage girl. Its a family dynamic that is very common in teen comedies and dramas. The show flip-flops on this. Sometimes they're depicted as very conservative, almost cartoonishly so, and sometimes they're portrayed as a fairly normal, almost lax family. For example, parents (especially mom) treated Avengerscon like it was some kind of den of sin. It was also implied that she would have found Kamala's frumpy Cap Marvel costume as excessively sexual and improper. Mom chatted with one of the aunties where they talked about a woman traveling around the world instead of settling down and getting married as an example of irresponsibility. These are all scenarios that are almost cartoonishly conservative. Even modern-day conservative families would have found some of these a bit too conservative. On the other hand, family is perfectly fine with their teenage daughter hanging out day and night with a teenage boy (something most conservative families would be careful with). Mom didn't even blink when Kamala wanted to go to a friend's party and come home at 9pm. Kamala broke out of the house and went against her parent's orders by going to Avengerscon yet didn't face any kind of punishment. No grounding, no removal of rights. Heck, the mom didn't even give her a tongue-lashing. So on one hand, the show is trying to portray her family as very conservative which is what she's struggling with, yet at the same time they keep allowing her to do stuff conveniently to move the story along, stuff that would never fly with a true conservative family.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Jun 26, 2022 3:30:28 GMT
The good news is that fight scene in the final 10 minutes of EP3 was fairly good and exciting. They definitely have some good stunt actors in this show.
The bad news is, it only took almost 3 entire episodes for something exciting to happen. Something that makes it resemble other MCU shows. Everything else is about Kamala's love life, family life, religion and basic highschool issues.
|
|
|
|
Post by Power Ranger on Jun 27, 2022 16:17:22 GMT
The good news is that fight scene in the final 10 minutes of EP3 was fairly good and exciting. They definitely have some good stunt actors in this show. The bad news is, it only took almost 3 entire episodes for something exciting to happen. Something that makes it resemble other MCU shows. Everything else is about Kamala's love life, family life, religion and basic highschool issues. Yeah Mc.Marvel is trying to be to Islam and the sub-continent what BP was to Africa and Shang-Chi was to China. So we have to sit through that before we get anything worthwhile. I don’t exactly like this show but I find it better than the other MCU shows. The Islamophilia and Indomania is a pain in the ass though. I’m cool with a Pakistani-American superhero but not a cringey cultural awareness campaign. |
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Jun 27, 2022 18:38:12 GMT
The good news is that fight scene in the final 10 minutes of EP3 was fairly good and exciting. They definitely have some good stunt actors in this show. The bad news is, it only took almost 3 entire episodes for something exciting to happen. Something that makes it resemble other MCU shows. Everything else is about Kamala's love life, family life, religion and basic highschool issues. Yeah Mc.Marvel is trying to be to Islam and the sub-continent what BP was to Africa and Shang-Chi was to China. So we have to sit through that before we get anything worthwhile. I don’t exactly like this show but I find it better than the other MCU shows. The Islamophilia and Indomania is a pain in the ass though. I’m cool with a Pakistani-American superhero but not a cringey cultural awareness campaign. It's hard for me to judge this show. On one hand, it's actually pretty good at what it's trying to do... which is some kind of teenage romcom show. If I base it on that, then it ranks quite higher than a lot of the other D+ show, because this show at least is able to accomplish what it's clearly trying to do. But if I judge it as an MCU show, then this drops to the bottom of my list. Because it's the least MCU-like show of the bunch and clearly wasn't made for your average MCU fan. The stuff that I'm looking for in an MCU product, the stuff that made me a fan of the MCU, is barely in this show.
|
|
|
|
Post by Power Ranger on Jun 29, 2022 14:46:13 GMT
I like the actress who plays Ms Marvel. She’d be good in a team but I want this damn series to end. It’s a real chore to watch it.
|
|
|
|
Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 29, 2022 20:14:22 GMT
I'm guessing Kamala either been sent back in time or is in some kind of a vision at the end.
Either way there was not much to talk about this episode.
|
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Jun 29, 2022 20:40:24 GMT
I like the actress who plays Ms Marvel. She’d be good in a team but I want this damn series to end. It’s a real chore to watch it. So stop watching it. Lol Entertainment should never feel like work. There's plenty of other shows to tickle your fancy.
|
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Jun 29, 2022 20:46:27 GMT
I'm guessing Kamala either been sent back in time or is in some kind of a vision at the end. Either way there was not much to talk about this episode. I agree this episode felt like a lot of running in place. There was the 'fish out of water' stuff with Kamala showing that she's a stranger in her native country, they explained a bit further the dimensions and what would happen if the door came down...but the rest of the episode honestly kind of felt like treading water. Or action scenes that had no real purpose or style. Even some of the dialog this episode didn't feel as crisp as normal. In the end there wasn't much to take away. Kind of filler-y.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Jun 30, 2022 4:52:06 GMT
We're already in episode 4 out of 6 and nothing has really happened much. This show is too preoccupied trying to showcase Kamala's culture and family heritage and barely touching on her superheroics. Heck, they barely even mention Captain Marvel anymore.
This series really needs to step on the gas soon.
Also, horrible villains. Worst villains I've seen in an MCU show so far, even worse than those flagsmashers.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2022 4:54:26 GMT
Sounds like this one is par for the course when it comes to the tv shows. Decent start, followed by lots of filler, concluding with a standard action filled climax.
|
|
|
|
Post by Power Ranger on Jun 30, 2022 13:01:38 GMT
Oh FFS, stop talking about the British. Now it’s Kamala’s grandma, blaming the British for the separation of India and Pakistan.
I get it. You can safely lay the blame on colonial Britain for anything. But they are really beating us over the head with it. Mind you, if this series is trying to be quintessentially Pakistani, it gets right the pre-occupation with India. Only it’s a fantasy to suggest that the two countries want to be or should be united. That part is pure propaganda.
|
|
|
|
Post by CrepedCrusader on Jun 30, 2022 22:52:08 GMT
I liked the previous episodes, but the newest one (episode 4?) was awful. Bad jokes, atrocious editing, and some of the new characters they introduced were played by bad actors. And for the love of God, Kamala randomly putting the mask on and taking it off made no sense.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Jun 30, 2022 23:18:55 GMT
I liked the previous episodes, but the newest one (episode 4?) was awful. Bad jokes, atrocious editing, and some of the new characters they introduced were played by bad actors. And for the love of God, Kamala randomly putting the mask on and taking it off made no sense. That mask doesn't even do much to hide her identity. They could have at least made it bigger and covered more of her face or something. Or maybe she should use her light powers to create one for herself.
|
|
|
|
Post by CrepedCrusader on Jul 1, 2022 2:38:48 GMT
I liked the previous episodes, but the newest one (episode 4?) was awful. Bad jokes, atrocious editing, and some of the new characters they introduced were played by bad actors. And for the love of God, Kamala randomly putting the mask on and taking it off made no sense. That mask doesn't even do much to hide her identity. They could have at least made it bigger and covered more of her face or something. Or maybe she should use her light powers to create one for herself. It was very much like Clark Kent putting on his glasses and nobody recognizing him. Lol. |
|
