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Post by stryker on Jun 30, 2022 21:56:01 GMT
Would you like to come and have a drink with me tonight Mike? Love to. I look forward to it. Meanwhile, apropos of nothing other than perhaps "the horror ... the horror", here is an article you may find interesting mike. I went down some dark right wing internet rabbit holes to find the same info firsthand and might even have got caught up in some of it for a while, so it was fascinating to find the journalist detailing it in this 0potent piece - which helped me make sense of what I had discovered. www.newyorker.com/news/the-political-scene/the-political-strategy-of-ron-desantiss-dont-say-gay-bill
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jul 1, 2022 2:50:43 GMT
And I'm glad I'm not so easily led into such a trap. I can still tell you quite honestly that the question never enters my mind in this or similar settings (meeting people in person, where signals intentional or otherwise can be picked up, is something quite different). I can go only as far as to say I can't approve of straight actors being the default first-choice for gay/lesbian/bi roles, which I have reason to believe is the thinking of some industry decision makers. But again, it's a business, and there could be projects that wouldn't get green-lit with, say, Matt Bomer, but would with the clout and draw of someone like Channing Tatum. As I've pointed out in our exchanges on other topics, it's an ugly reality that bottom-line considerations are most likely to be the prevailing ones in corporate determinations. I don't have to like it in order to acknowledge it. As for Hanks, he's settled on a personal standard, and that's his choice to make. LOL, I realize my last reply was a good one, but it's rare to find you at a loss for words Doghouse. I hope the horror of the Jan 6 hearings and the US Supreme Court's frightening decision to overturn Roe v Wade have not left you in a deep, dark depression. We live in scary times, but if it's any consolation, if you think it's scary over there, you have no idea how scary it is over here. Which doesn't mean I have lost hope, but ... I don't know that I feel at a loss for words, necessarily. Those I use are chosen very carefully, I stand by them and, inasmuch as I indicated it's all I have to say on matters of sexuality in casting choices, I can only reiterate them (with emphasis): I can go only as far as to say I can't approve of straight actors being the default first-choice for gay/lesbian/bi roles, which I have reason to believe is the thinking of some industry decision makers. But again, it's a business, and there could be projects that wouldn't get green-lit with, say, Matt Bomer, but would with the clout and draw of someone like Channing Tatum. As I've pointed out in our exchanges on other topics, it's an ugly reality that bottom-line considerations are most likely to be the prevailing ones in corporate determinations. I don't have to like it in order to acknowledge it. I can readily admit that my attentions of late have been more toward the hearings (which provide the odd sensation of things which come as no surprise being nonetheless shocking to hear spoken of out loud) and recent judicial rulings (about which I have more to say than would be appropriate here and now). It's said that misery loves company, but it's no consolation to know things are even scarier where you are. Just as those behind the iron curtain must have in the '50s through the '80s, I look to other nations for signs of hope and optimism. But that gets harder by the day.
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Post by mikef6 on Jul 1, 2022 4:38:57 GMT
Would you like to come and have a drink with me tonight Mike? Love to. Maybe Doghouse6 would like to join us.
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Post by stryker on Jul 1, 2022 4:44:26 GMT
I think he is married, and I doubt he is as open minded as us. But he's welcome.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jul 1, 2022 5:40:44 GMT
I think he is married, and I doubt he is as open minded as us. But he's welcome. I've found that being married has required more open-mindedness than I ever suspected. In any case, I'd never turn down a drink with two of the most interesting people on the board. In fact, I've been at the table wondering where youse guys are. I hope I'm not overdressed.
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Post by stryker on Jul 1, 2022 11:45:21 GMT
Pulling back the curtain for a moment and speaking from the heart, it would be a privilege and a pleasure to spend some face to face time in the real world with you and Doghouse Mike.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jul 1, 2022 13:56:28 GMT
I don't see how, he even could do that. There'd be no way it would happen today anyway.
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Post by stryker on Jul 1, 2022 21:05:08 GMT
I think he is married, and I doubt he is as open minded as us. But he's welcome. I've found that being married has required more open-mindedness than I ever suspected. In any case, I'd never turn down a drink with two of the most interesting people on the board. In fact, I've been at the table wondering where youse guys are. I hope I'm not overdressed. "How long is the day in the dark? Or a week? The fire is gone, and I'm horribly cold. I really should drag myself outside but then there'd be the sun. I'm afraid I waste the light on the paintings, not writing these words."
Those lines from The English Patient sum up how I feel right now Doghouse, but it looks like, touch wood, we have a day and a half without bouts of load shedding ahead of us. So I'm going to watch an episode or two of a terrific new show on Amazon Prime with my partner right now and get back to this thread in the wee hours; I do so love the wee hours. Later.
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Post by stryker on Jul 2, 2022 2:35:46 GMT
LOL, I realize my last reply was a good one, but it's rare to find you at a loss for words Doghouse. I hope the horror of the Jan 6 hearings and the US Supreme Court's frightening decision to overturn Roe v Wade have not left you in a deep, dark depression. We live in scary times, but if it's any consolation, if you think it's scary over there, you have no idea how scary it is over here. Which doesn't mean I have lost hope, but ... I don't know that I feel at a loss for words, necessarily. Those I use are chosen very carefully, I stand by them and, inasmuch as I indicated it's all I have to say on matters of sexuality in casting choices, I can only reiterate them (with emphasis): I can go only as far as to say I can't approve of straight actors being the default first-choice for gay/lesbian/bi roles, which I have reason to believe is the thinking of some industry decision makers. But again, it's a business, and there could be projects that wouldn't get green-lit with, say, Matt Bomer, but would with the clout and draw of someone like Channing Tatum. As I've pointed out in our exchanges on other topics, it's an ugly reality that bottom-line considerations are most likely to be the prevailing ones in corporate determinations. I don't have to like it in order to acknowledge it. I can readily admit that my attentions of late have been more toward the hearings (which provide the odd sensation of things which come as no surprise being nonetheless shocking to hear spoken of out loud) and recent judicial rulings (about which I have more to say than would be appropriate here and now). It's said that misery loves company, but it's no consolation to know things are even scarier where you are. Just as those behind the iron curtain must have in the '50s through the '80s, I look to other nations for signs of hope and optimism. But that gets harder by the day. I think one has to live every minute of every day to the maximum Doghouse. Of course, with Philadelphia, what matters is that Ron Nyswaner, the writer, was gay. For the record - even though you dodged the Matt Bomer thing, another gay male gay writer director actor who has received extreme hate from radical trans activists is John Cameron Mitchell (Shortbus), who they tried to get cancelled and thrown off his own play during a production of his musical HEDWIG AND THE ANGRY INCH. And for a while, the hateful idiots succeeded. It's 4.17am and I am getting angry calls from the bedroom, but next time I post here I will tell you why I think Hanks made that dumb comment. Meanwhile. So, which queer star do you think should have played the Phil Burbank role which earned Benedict Cumberbatch an Oscar nomination in POWER OF THE DOG?
And which heterosexual actor do you think should have played the Monroe Stahr role which Matt Bomer played in the 9-part TV series based on Fitzgerald's great unfinished novel, The Last Tycoon?I say Matt Bomer was wonderfully cast as the Boy Stahr in THE LAST TYCOON, and I doubt many actors on the planet could have served up a more compelling, intense, arrogant and tortured performance as the sexually repressed Phil Burbank than the charismatic and supremely skilled Benedict Cumberbatch in THE POWER OF THE DOG.Actually, I really think Cumberbatch could have played Monroe Stahr as effectively as Bomer, but I don't think Bomer would have been capable of playing Phil Burbank with the same skill and bravado as Cumberbatch. Also, can you name me an actor who - in the last ten years - has lost a major role because they are gay?
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jul 2, 2022 3:48:18 GMT
I don't know that I feel at a loss for words, necessarily. Those I use are chosen very carefully, I stand by them and, inasmuch as I indicated it's all I have to say on matters of sexuality in casting choices, I can only reiterate them (with emphasis): I can go only as far as to say I can't approve of straight actors being the default first-choice for gay/lesbian/bi roles, which I have reason to believe is the thinking of some industry decision makers. But again, it's a business, and there could be projects that wouldn't get green-lit with, say, Matt Bomer, but would with the clout and draw of someone like Channing Tatum. As I've pointed out in our exchanges on other topics, it's an ugly reality that bottom-line considerations are most likely to be the prevailing ones in corporate determinations. I don't have to like it in order to acknowledge it. I can readily admit that my attentions of late have been more toward the hearings (which provide the odd sensation of things which come as no surprise being nonetheless shocking to hear spoken of out loud) and recent judicial rulings (about which I have more to say than would be appropriate here and now). It's said that misery loves company, but it's no consolation to know things are even scarier where you are. Just as those behind the iron curtain must have in the '50s through the '80s, I look to other nations for signs of hope and optimism. But that gets harder by the day. I think one has to live every minute of every day to the maximum Doghouse. Of course, with Philadelphia, what matters is that Ron Nyswaner, the writer, was gay. For the record - even though you dodged the Matt Bomer thing, another gay male gay writer director actor who has received extreme hate from radical trans activists is John Cameron Mitchell (Shortbus), who they tried to get cancelled and thrown off his own play during a production of his musical HEDWIG AND THE ANGRY INCH. And for a while, the hateful idiots succeeded. It's 4.17am and I am getting angry calls from the bedroom, but next time I post here I will tell you why I think Hanks made that dumb comment. Meanwhile. So, which queer star do you think should have played the Phil Burbank role which earned Benedict Cumberbatch an Oscar nomination in POWER OF THE DOG?
And which heterosexual actor do you think should have played the Monroe Stahr role which Matt Bomer played in the 9-part TV series based on Fitzgerald's great unfinished novel, The Last Tycoon?I say Matt Bomer was wonderfully cast as the Boy Stahr in THE LAST TYCOON, and I doubt many actors on the planet could have served up a more compelling, intense, arrogant and tortured performance as the sexually repressed Phil Burbank than the charismatic and supremely skilled Benedict Cumberbatch in THE POWER OF THE DOG.Actually, I really think Cumberbatch could have played Monroe Stahr as effectively as Bomer, but I don't think Bomer would have been capable of playing Phil Burbank with the same skill and bravado as Cumberbatch. Also, can you name me an actor who - in the last ten years - has lost a major role because they are gay? It's a relief to observe that you're feistier than in your last post. Good to see the ol' fighting spirit. I'm sure you'll understand if I resist being backed into a corner defending territory to which I've made no claim. My feelings on sexuality in casting remain as stated, no more; no less. I'm also sure we'll never know when actors have lost roles over their orientation. That isn't the kind of thing that finds its way into publication and, even when spoken privately, is likely done so in coded form or with an "I'll deny it if you repeat it" caveat. I haven't seen The Power of the Dog (doesn't really pique interest) and bailed on the The Last Tycoon after maybe three installments, finding its affectations artificial and off-putting. What a dreary bore those load-shedding episodes must be. I infer you at least get some advance notice. Do they also let you know durations? The only experience we have with power outages here come with snow, ice or wind. Oh, and an occasional drunk taking out a nearby utility pole with his 3-ton pickup truck, for none of which there are any warnings. Back in my native So. California, they were pretty much limited to decent-sized 'quakes (say, 6.0 or over). I worry for L.A. They're way overdue for another.
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