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Post by lune7000 on Jun 19, 2022 19:32:06 GMT
Actually, China wasn't one of those 14 countries that banned Lightyear, we're only assuming it will ban it. It's also ridicuously arrogant of you to be so dissmisive of the cultures of these 14 countries. I may not agree with all of their rules and regulations, but then again every country has their own pros and cons. Heck, at least most of these countries aren't as politically divided as the US, certainly don't have as many mass shootings. And I don't think you understand how numbers and populations work. China alone comprises 18% of the world population. India another 18%. Both of these countries are not quite open to LGBTQ relationships (though India has been opening up a bit more and hasn't banned Lightyear). Then you add other more populous countries like Pakistan, indonesia, Nigeria, Philippines, UAE, Nigeria, Egypt, Russia... all of which are countries where LGBTQ relationships aren't quite welcomed with open arms... and you'll realize just how NOT mainstream LGBTQ relationships are yet. Not on a world-scale. It's a good thing to fight for LGBTQ rights, I do to, but you'll completely suck at it if you're not willing to face facts. lmao at saying "its arrogant of you to be so dismissive of the cultures of these 14 countries" Sorry not sorry that I think these Islamic countries are still stuck in the stone age and treat women like 2nd class citizens who still lack the most basic human rights in the year 2022. And its been widely known for decades now, that innocent Muslims get thrown to their death off of rooftops if they are found out to be gay. That's actually if they're lucky. A lot of times they are tortured to death, stoned to death or burned alive. Homosexuality is an absolute death sentence in every single Muslim dominated countries all over the Middle East. To even state like you did in your post that countries like Pakistan " aren't quite welcomed with open arms" is an understatement. So I think its actually you that is the one that isn't willing to face the facts. You are correct about those things being bad but you might want to look at our culture with more open eyes and see it how others see us: massive drug abuse and overdose death, mass divorce and loneliness, worldwide military that enforces corporations to rape the resources of poor countries and prop up dictators, tons of lonely old people left in nursing homes to rot to death by themselves. All societies make trade offs and have much to be ashamed about
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Post by Jason143 on Jun 19, 2022 20:07:07 GMT
lol are you new to wonderful world of Islam? I'm sorry for coming across as being a condescending prick but it should come to no surprise at all that all of those Muslim dominated countries would ban this movie over just a brief kiss on the cheek involving two women (animated or not). Women have been treated worse than cattle & livestock in the Middle East since the beginning of time and don't even get me started on how they treat gay people. My comment still stands. I'm not surprised. I just think it's lame that mainstream acceptance of homosexuality continues to be stalled long past the expiration date of its taboo because the world is full of pussies. It's not like there's something in the water in the west that makes people gay. Homosexuality exists in those countries too. I don't know who they're trying to kid.
edit: Man how stoned did I get last night? I could have sworn this thread was on a different board... They believe that homosexuality is a learned trait than can be influenced onto young children from the wider environment.
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Post by 博:Dr.BLΔD€:锯 on Jun 19, 2022 20:44:41 GMT
I think I would have liked to have seen it in markets. Would have been a welcome change from plastic cockneys bellowing " Cam on missus, cam and Git yer fresh termatoes ."
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 20, 2022 0:40:52 GMT
Homosexuality isn’t actually illegal in all Muslim countries, although there’s definitely a stigma against it throughout virtually the entire Muslim world. It’s mostly places like Saudi Arabia where it’s a death sentence to be gay. For what it’s worth, places like Turkey actually decriminalized homosexual sex long before places like the U.K. Still, religions in general aren’t exactly known to be accepting towards gays. Islam didn’t invent homophobia.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2022 14:35:24 GMT
lmao at saying "its arrogant of you to be so dismissive of the cultures of these 14 countries" Sorry not sorry that I think these Islamic countries are still stuck in the stone age and treat women like 2nd class citizens who still lack the most basic human rights in the year 2022. And its been widely known for decades now, that innocent Muslims get thrown to their death off of rooftops if they are found out to be gay. That's actually if they're lucky. A lot of times they are tortured to death, stoned to death or burned alive. Homosexuality is an absolute death sentence in every single Muslim dominated countries all over the Middle East. To even state like you did in your post that countries like Pakistan " aren't quite welcomed with open arms" is an understatement. So I think its actually you that is the one that isn't willing to face the facts. You are correct about those things being bad but you might want to look at our culture with more open eyes and see it how others see us: massive drug abuse and overdose death, mass divorce and loneliness, worldwide military that enforces corporations to rape the resources of poor countries and prop up dictators, tons of lonely old people left in nursing homes to rot to death by themselves. All societies make trade offs and have much to be ashamed about lol very true regarding societies make trade offs but I think I'll take the United States' trade offs over say Iran's trade offs any day of the week.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 7:45:07 GMT
lmao at saying "its arrogant of you to be so dismissive of the cultures of these 14 countries" Sorry not sorry that I think these Islamic countries are still stuck in the stone age and treat women like 2nd class citizens who still lack the most basic human rights in the year 2022. And its been widely known for decades now, that innocent Muslims get thrown to their death off of rooftops if they are found out to be gay. That's actually if they're lucky. A lot of times they are tortured to death, stoned to death or burned alive. Homosexuality is an absolute death sentence in every single Muslim dominated countries all over the Middle East. To even state like you did in your post that countries like Pakistan " aren't quite welcomed with open arms" is an understatement. So I think its actually you that is the one that isn't willing to face the facts. You... haven't been to these countries have you? I have,and while some of them are indeed fairly hostile to homosexuals, some of them aren't. Just that they aren't that comfortable with them either. There's varying shades of grey here, so maybe be very careful next time when painting with a broad brush, especially when it seems like you're getting your info from some kind of islamophobic stereotype. I mean, burned to death? Jeeze dude, which movie are you getting these from? It probably happens from time to time but it's far, far from commonplace. Children getting shot in US schools is probably more common nowadays than gays/lesbians getting outright killed for homosexual relationships in these Islamic countries. bwhahaha "fairly hostile to homosexuals" understatement of the fucking year. And no I can safely say that I have never been to ANY of those shit hole backwards ass countries located in the Middle East and don't plan on to either. And I'm not getting any of my examples that I used from any movie. JFC I happen to just try and keep up with what's going on in the world (I can supply a ton of links if you'd like to back up every single one of my points in my post you quoted. Just let me know if you want me to post any of them ). And regarding your last sentence of your already absurdly inaccurate post, you end it by doubling down making some baseless claim that children are "probably" safer in all of these Middle East schools than the US even though its widely been known for decades now that forced child marriages are a big thing over there and its normal / acceptable for girls as young as 13 to get forced into a marriage with a grown Muslim men.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 8:14:49 GMT
So this films joins these other films being banned in China Frankenstein (1931) Ben-Hur (1959) Back to the Future (1985) Babe: Pig in the City (1998) The Da Vinci Code (2006) The Dark Knight (2008) Joker (2019) Are we going to just allow China to rule the debate in this forum and tell us what's acceptable? The Chinese Government abuses human rights and this censorship is just another example of that. This wasn't just banned in China, it was banned in 14 different countries. Again, I'm not saying being LGBTQ is wrong (heck, my wife is fully bi) but let's at least be honest enough to admit that it isn't the norm and is nowhere near as mainstream as social media might make it seem. If it was the norm, then it wouldn't have been banned in 14 countries and caused this much controversy. haha let me get this straight, you are not only going out of your way to support these Muslim countries but also are going out of your way to support and defend China (in particular the Chinese Government ). Oh boy, I can't wait to see how you'll spin this one. www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-takes-aggressive-steps-against-china-for-forcing-uyghurs-into-laborWe just got to be tolerant and open minded to these countries "cultures" and any form of their governments' blatant disregard for basic human rights. After all, it'd be highly arrogant to think so otherwise. www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/24/xinjiang-leak-sheds-new-light-on-chinas-uighur-camps
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 23, 2022 16:26:22 GMT
This wasn't just banned in China, it was banned in 14 different countries. Again, I'm not saying being LGBTQ is wrong (heck, my wife is fully bi) but let's at least be honest enough to admit that it isn't the norm and is nowhere near as mainstream as social media might make it seem. If it was the norm, then it wouldn't have been banned in 14 countries and caused this much controversy. haha let me get this straight, you are not only going out of your way to support these Muslim countries but also are going out of your way to support and defend China (in particular the Chinese Government ). Oh boy, I can't wait to see how you'll spin this one. www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-takes-aggressive-steps-against-china-for-forcing-uyghurs-into-laborWe just got to be tolerant and open minded to these countries "cultures" and any form of their governments' blatant disregard for basic human rights. After all, it'd be highly arrogant to think so otherwise. www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/24/xinjiang-leak-sheds-new-light-on-chinas-uighur-camps Who said anything about supporting? Can you quote me in any of my posts where I said I actually supported these countries? All I'm doing is pointing out that LGBTQ relationships are not as common and mainstream as western social media might want to think. If they were then a movie showing a lesbian kiss wouldn't get banned among an extremely huge chunk of the world's population. And it's not just these countries either. A good chunk of North Americans are also not quite comfortable with this scene. Heck, a school field trip to this movie in Ontario got cancelled because too many parents complained about their kids seeing this movie. In the end, if you want to debate with me please make sure you actually understand the points I'm raising instead of strawmanning the hell out of my posts.
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Jun 27, 2022 0:44:33 GMT
It seems many SJWs are still in pure denial.
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Dec 22, 2022 14:26:13 GMT
And Buzz Lightyear has been confirmed as a tremendous failure.
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