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Post by Skaathar on Jul 12, 2022 4:02:50 GMT
Yeah, that whole thing with the Axe was bad. It didn't make sense at all and using it's "jealously" as an excuse to have them ride around in a goat boat was some really bad writing. That "God" bit was really distracting for me. Especially it's animation style, like it just walked off the Lego Movie and found its way into Love and Thunder. Yeah, both were dumb AF. Also, the Korg God sits on a scissor throne because… rock, paper, scissors, I guess? Is that funny? Taikia must’ve written half this stuff while completely stoned. I mean, he does play Korg who's made of rock...
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 12, 2022 4:47:53 GMT
Yeah, both were dumb AF. Also, the Korg God sits on a scissor throne because… rock, paper, scissors, I guess? Is that funny? Taikia must’ve written half this stuff while completely stoned. I mean, he does play Korg who's made of rock...
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Post by merh on Jul 13, 2022 0:45:57 GMT
Random stuff that irritated me: 1. Thor somehow lost the power to generate lightning from himself. He's completely unable to create lightning in this movie unless he has Stormbreaker. Seems whatever development he got in Ragnarok was completely reversed. He's back to being god of hammers. Goddamned stupid site Ate my response. No stormbreaker when fighting Zeus. Lightning used. Stormbreaker sent off with Astrid. Lightning used. My sister liked it. Considering the handle is Groot's arm, it could explain some of the peckishness. Never liked him. Sis was glad he "died" which reduced his participation in the movie-battles, etc. Blame Taylor Swift? Some screaming goats meme with one of her songs? But we need to find sympathy for him. If he killed Eitri, last of his kind who was a sympathetic character, it would have been a bit harder to feel sympathy for Gorr. Grandmaster was a bit of a jerk, but liked by some so again... My sister felt the same. I was good. I guess I'm used to Marvel films being shorter usually His power is associated with his emotions. He felt closed off, right? Note how quick he dispatched the roosters. When he got serious, he more than held his own. The shadow dudes had power because of their endless nature. No sooner kill one, another appears. Sort of like the Hydra line about cut one head off, 2 more pop up. Asgard has always been an assortment of races. Hogun was not the same race as Fandral & Volstagg. I think Branagh did his research so that was good. One of the things I appreciate about Avengers is the unspoken stuff Whedon just slipped in like the thud when Thor lands on the Quinjet. That Thor ducks from the bullets because who knows, right? But Loki doesn't because he knows. So the rooster fight Thor is very unscathed not wearing armor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 5:57:40 GMT
You know what’s really dumb is that Stormbreaker is the key to opening Eternity. Makes zero sense and is only there to give Gorr a reason to go after Thor.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 13, 2022 6:06:43 GMT
You know what’s really dumb is that Stormbreaker is the key to opening Eternity. Makes zero sense and is only there to give Gorr a reason to go after Thor. It really doesn't make sense considering that SB was only created a few years ago whereas it was implied that that temple to Eternity has been around for quite a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 6:10:42 GMT
You know what’s really dumb is that Stormbreaker is the key to opening Eternity. Makes zero sense and is only there to give Gorr a reason to go after Thor. It really doesn't make sense considering that SB was only created a few years ago whereas it was implied that that temple to Eternity has been around for quite a long time. I thought about that too, but I give them the benefit of the doubt by assuming that it’s actually the bifrost that is the key. Which is kind of confirmed when Gorr uses that to open it rather than just the axe. It’s still severely contrived though that Thor just happens to have the key. It also raises questions about the bifrost that the movie doesn’t care to answer.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 13, 2022 7:01:57 GMT
Random stuff that irritated me: 1. Thor somehow lost the power to generate lightning from himself. He's completely unable to create lightning in this movie unless he has Stormbreaker. Seems whatever development he got in Ragnarok was completely reversed. He's back to being god of hammers. Goddamned stupid site Ate my response. No stormbreaker when fighting Zeus. Lightning used. Stormbreaker sent off with Astrid. Lightning used. My sister liked it. Considering the handle is Groot's arm, it could explain some of the peckishness. Never liked him. Sis was glad he "died" which reduced his participation in the movie-battles, etc. Blame Taylor Swift? Some screaming goats meme with one of her songs? But we need to find sympathy for him. If he killed Eitri, last of his kind who was a sympathetic character, it would have been a bit harder to feel sympathy for Gorr. Grandmaster was a bit of a jerk, but liked by some so again... My sister felt the same. I was good. I guess I'm used to Marvel films being shorter usually His power is associated with his emotions. He felt closed off, right? Note how quick he dispatched the roosters. When he got serious, he more than held his own. The shadow dudes had power because of their endless nature. No sooner kill one, another appears. Sort of like the Hydra line about cut one head off, 2 more pop up. Asgard has always been an assortment of races. Hogun was not the same race as Fandral & Volstagg. I think Branagh did his research so that was good. One of the things I appreciate about Avengers is the unspoken stuff Whedon just slipped in like the thud when Thor lands on the Quinjet. That Thor ducks from the bullets because who knows, right? But Loki doesn't because he knows. So the rooster fight Thor is very unscathed not wearing armor. Thor's powers was never tied to his emotions. I don't know where you're getting that from. He didn't use his lightning in his fight against Zeus' minions. He used those yellow/golden lightning chains that Zeus tied him up with, not his own blue lightning. In the final fight against Gorr he used lightning but only because he was holding Zeus' lightning. There were multiple times when Gorr had him tied up and without a weapon and not once did he try to use his own lightning.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 13, 2022 15:24:22 GMT
It really doesn't make sense considering that SB was only created a few years ago whereas it was implied that that temple to Eternity has been around for quite a long time. I thought about that too, but I give them the benefit of the doubt by assuming that it’s actually the bifrost that is the key. Which is kind of confirmed when Gorr uses that to open it rather than just the axe. It’s still severely contrived though that Thor just happens to have the key. It also raises questions about the bifrost that the movie doesn’t care to answer. okay but when has Gorr gone after Thor before, and why was he was still sore, i know when he called him a bore that shook him to his core, but was it more?
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 13, 2022 16:40:58 GMT
It really doesn't make sense considering that SB was only created a few years ago whereas it was implied that that temple to Eternity has been around for quite a long time. I thought about that too, but I give them the benefit of the doubt by assuming that it’s actually the bifrost that is the key. Which is kind of confirmed when Gorr uses that to open it rather than just the axe. It’s still severely contrived though that Thor just happens to have the key. It also raises questions about the bifrost that the movie doesn’t care to answer. Nah, I thought of that too. That it was the Bifrost. But that doesn't make sense considering that the Bifrost was a static thing located in Asgard. It's not something that could have been transported from Asgard to that temple. Unless we're saying that they could have just blasted the Bifrost from Asgard all they way to Eternity's temple... but that would create soooo many questions and loopholes if that were the case (like why didn't Hela and Loki simply use that wishing well for their causes?).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 17:34:30 GMT
I thought about that too, but I give them the benefit of the doubt by assuming that it’s actually the bifrost that is the key. Which is kind of confirmed when Gorr uses that to open it rather than just the axe. It’s still severely contrived though that Thor just happens to have the key. It also raises questions about the bifrost that the movie doesn’t care to answer. okay but when has Gorr gone after Thor before, and why was he was still sore, i know when he called him a bore that shook him to his core, but was it more? Thor Four, A Review in Poetry
Thor, Thor, Thor number four. The villain was good, his name was Gorr But Marvel wasted him. I wanted more! Feige imposed a 2 hour runtime. Son of a whore! The theater seats were hard. My ass was sore! 6 out of 10, that’s my score.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 17:36:00 GMT
I thought about that too, but I give them the benefit of the doubt by assuming that it’s actually the bifrost that is the key. Which is kind of confirmed when Gorr uses that to open it rather than just the axe. It’s still severely contrived though that Thor just happens to have the key. It also raises questions about the bifrost that the movie doesn’t care to answer. Nah, I thought of that too. That it was the Bifrost. But that doesn't make sense considering that the Bifrost was a static thing located in Asgard. It's not something that could have been transported from Asgard to that temple. Unless we're saying that they could have just blasted the Bifrost from Asgard all they way to Eternity's temple... but that would create soooo many questions and loopholes if that were the case (like why didn't Hela and Loki simply use that wishing well for their causes?). Yeah, it’s just a really poorly conceived/written plot device. I’m so sick of directors thinking they can handle screenwriting duties. This script was amateurish.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 13, 2022 18:11:14 GMT
Just realized something. When Korg first met Thor in Ragnarok, didn't he talk about his mum (and his mum's boyfriend)? Now we find out he doesn't have a mum but two dads instead.
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Post by merh on Jul 13, 2022 18:24:03 GMT
Goddamned stupid site Ate my response. No stormbreaker when fighting Zeus. Lightning used. Stormbreaker sent off with Astrid. Lightning used. My sister liked it. Considering the handle is Groot's arm, it could explain some of the peckishness. Never liked him. Sis was glad he "died" which reduced his participation in the movie-battles, etc. Blame Taylor Swift? Some screaming goats meme with one of her songs? But we need to find sympathy for him. If he killed Eitri, last of his kind who was a sympathetic character, it would have been a bit harder to feel sympathy for Gorr. Grandmaster was a bit of a jerk, but liked by some so again... My sister felt the same. I was good. I guess I'm used to Marvel films being shorter usually His power is associated with his emotions. He felt closed off, right? Note how quick he dispatched the roosters. When he got serious, he more than held his own. The shadow dudes had power because of their endless nature. No sooner kill one, another appears. Sort of like the Hydra line about cut one head off, 2 more pop up. Asgard has always been an assortment of races. Hogun was not the same race as Fandral & Volstagg. I think Branagh did his research so that was good. One of the things I appreciate about Avengers is the unspoken stuff Whedon just slipped in like the thud when Thor lands on the Quinjet. That Thor ducks from the bullets because who knows, right? But Loki doesn't because he knows. So the rooster fight Thor is very unscathed not wearing armor. Thor's powers was never tied to his emotions. I don't know where you're getting that from. He didn't use his lightning in his fight against Zeus' minions. He used those yellow/golden lightning chains that Zeus tied him up with, not his own blue lightning. In the final fight against Gorr he used lightning but only because he was holding Zeus' lightning. There were multiple times when Gorr had him tied up and without a weapon and not once did he try to use his own lightning. It was his blue lightning against Zeus's minions. I paid attention when I saw it a second time yesterday. When he felt he wasn't worthy? Thor's mental/emotional state plays a big part in his power. His father said the hammer was a focus meaning there was an awareness from his childhood he had this power, yet he only discovered it in Ragnarok? (Meaning baby Thor headed into battle probably would have lightning struck those bad guys) The problem with Thor is the problem with Supes-viewed as overpowered so they have to reduce him a lot. Notice that first battle with the guardians it was over once Thor joined it. Yeah, I hate it. The vines & Gorr? Sure he could free himself, but what of Jane & Val? Could Gorr snuff them out while Thor was freeing himself?
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Post by merh on Jul 13, 2022 18:29:27 GMT
Just realized something. When Korg first met Thor in Ragnarok, didn't he talk about his mum (and his mum's boyfriend)? Now we find out he doesn't have a mum but two dads instead. Yeah. I hate Korg. My sister brought that up. I suggested maybe he defaulted to calling one dad a mum because it was too much to explain to strangers? Easier to call one dad a mum than the whole 2 dads hold hands for a month. How long is a month on Korg's world? He's very comfortable in Thor's world now, but as a gladiator under Grandmaster where people died all the time?
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 13, 2022 18:35:05 GMT
Thor's powers was never tied to his emotions. I don't know where you're getting that from. He didn't use his lightning in his fight against Zeus' minions. He used those yellow/golden lightning chains that Zeus tied him up with, not his own blue lightning. In the final fight against Gorr he used lightning but only because he was holding Zeus' lightning. There were multiple times when Gorr had him tied up and without a weapon and not once did he try to use his own lightning. It was his blue lightning against Zeus's minions. I paid attention when I saw it a second time yesterday. When he felt he wasn't worthy? Thor's mental/emotional state plays a big part in his power. His father said the hammer was a focus meaning there was an awareness from his childhood he had this power, yet he only discovered it in Ragnarok? (Meaning baby Thor headed into battle probably would have lightning struck those bad guys) The problem with Thor is the problem with Supes-viewed as overpowered so they have to reduce him a lot. Notice that first battle with the guardians it was over once Thor joined it. Yeah, I hate it. The vines & Gorr? Sure he could free himself, but what of Jane & Val? Could Gorr snuff them out while Thor was freeing himself? Are you talking about this fight scene? I certainly don't see him using his lightning there. Obviously there are numerous cuts in this video but even if he did use his lightning, it's obviously nowhere near what he displayed in Ragnarok where he was basically a walking lightning storm. And yes, when Gorr had him tied up without a weapon, why not use his lightning then? So what if Jane and Val were tied up? At least he's free to fight Gorr and can hopefully free Jane and Val later on. What, he should remain tied up just because his teammates are also tied up? That makes zero sense. Also, Thor being worthy or not has no bearing on his emotions. He doesn't get to "feel" worthy or unworthy. He certainly felt worthy of Mjolnir in the first movie when he tried to pick it up in the SHIELD base... that didn't work out well for him. The movies never showed his powers fluctuating with his emotions.
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Post by merh on Jul 13, 2022 19:09:29 GMT
It was his blue lightning against Zeus's minions. I paid attention when I saw it a second time yesterday. When he felt he wasn't worthy? Thor's mental/emotional state plays a big part in his power. His father said the hammer was a focus meaning there was an awareness from his childhood he had this power, yet he only discovered it in Ragnarok? (Meaning baby Thor headed into battle probably would have lightning struck those bad guys) The problem with Thor is the problem with Supes-viewed as overpowered so they have to reduce him a lot. Notice that first battle with the guardians it was over once Thor joined it. Yeah, I hate it. The vines & Gorr? Sure he could free himself, but what of Jane & Val? Could Gorr snuff them out while Thor was freeing himself? Are you talking about this fight scene? I certainly don't see him using his lightning there. Obviously there are numerous cuts in this video but even if he did use his lightning, it's obviously nowhere near what he displayed in Ragnarok where he was basically a walking lightning storm. And yes, when Gorr had him tied up without a weapon, why not use his lightning then? So what if Jane and Val were tied up? At least he's free to fight Gorr and can hopefully free Jane and Val later on. What, he should remain tied up just because his teammates are also tied up? That makes zero sense. Also, Thor being worthy or not has no bearing on his emotions. He doesn't get to "feel" worthy or unworthy. He certainly felt worthy of Mjolnir in the first movie when he tried to pick it up in the SHIELD base... that didn't work out well for him. The movies never showed his powers fluctuating with his emotions. www.thedigitalfix.com/dc-extended-universe/superman-vs-thorOdin in the comics was a real manipulative asshole. I really hated him. Of course they couldn't do it with Anthony Hopkins. We saw a bit of it in Dark World. It was after Korg got it which you admit is not really shown in your clip Notice he seems to be blending his blue lightning with the gold thunderbolt
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 13, 2022 19:30:11 GMT
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+ - Dr. Jane Foster had a stronger arc than I could've imagined. I thought they were just gonna throw the suit on her with hammer & let her lead cosmos armies forever more. It was brave I thought that Mjölnir was keeping her alive from cancer, & braver still she was better off without that. Cancer is a pretty universal topic I'd say, & them being mostly frank in convo about it was also good - braver than making all those moments into emotional downers. - Portman was very good, Hemsworth & Bale were pretty good. - The overall pacing & flow of the movie was fun, at least they bet on themselves & I had a good time. - It's always been uncharted waters to bring the MCU to the cosmos, so I do offer more rope when things get overly imagined.
- - From a to z, felt like live action Lego Movie. That's not a negative so much as a slant. It's showing me this Thor has passed his freshness date. I would've hoped Zeus' lightning bolt were far more powerful than that though. - Some pretty forgettable juvenile humour spots - Korg's face tied to Val's head, Zeus the frat king, & most everything the Guardians had to put up with aside Thor. I legit felt bad for them standing around in battle. - I had my share of Star Wars callbacks (podracers, Gods convention hall), & Harry Potter (Voldemort, the heroic children...) which took me out a bit.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 13, 2022 20:14:01 GMT
Are you talking about this fight scene? I certainly don't see him using his lightning there. Obviously there are numerous cuts in this video but even if he did use his lightning, it's obviously nowhere near what he displayed in Ragnarok where he was basically a walking lightning storm. And yes, when Gorr had him tied up without a weapon, why not use his lightning then? So what if Jane and Val were tied up? At least he's free to fight Gorr and can hopefully free Jane and Val later on. What, he should remain tied up just because his teammates are also tied up? That makes zero sense. Also, Thor being worthy or not has no bearing on his emotions. He doesn't get to "feel" worthy or unworthy. He certainly felt worthy of Mjolnir in the first movie when he tried to pick it up in the SHIELD base... that didn't work out well for him. The movies never showed his powers fluctuating with his emotions. www.thedigitalfix.com/dc-extended-universe/superman-vs-thorOdin in the comics was a real manipulative asshole. I really hated him. Of course they couldn't do it with Anthony Hopkins. We saw a bit of it in Dark World. It was after Korg got it which you admit is not really shown in your clip Notice he seems to be blending his blue lightning with the gold thunderbolt Any person is susceptible to increasing or decreasing performance depending on their mindset. But... that doesn't mean that they suddenly lose or develop powers or skillsets out of nowhere. I'm not talking about Thor being able to fight better or worse depending on his mindset, I'm talking about him being able to utilize his powers or not depending on his emotions. That's what you claimed, and nothing we've seen of the MCU movies support that. As for his lightning bolts, was that the only instance of him using it without weapons in the movie? Because that's like a sneeze compared to the lightning storm he was generating in Ragnarok. It still reinforces the fact that Taika is ridiculously inconsistent in portraying Thor's power levels.
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Post by merh on Jul 13, 2022 22:45:15 GMT
www.thedigitalfix.com/dc-extended-universe/superman-vs-thorOdin in the comics was a real manipulative asshole. I really hated him. Of course they couldn't do it with Anthony Hopkins. We saw a bit of it in Dark World. It was after Korg got it which you admit is not really shown in your clip Notice he seems to be blending his blue lightning with the gold thunderbolt Any person is susceptible to increasing or decreasing performance depending on their mindset. But... that doesn't mean that they suddenly lose or develop powers or skillsets out of nowhere. I'm not talking about Thor being able to fight better or worse depending on his mindset, I'm talking about him being able to utilize his powers or not depending on his emotions. That's what you claimed, and nothing we've seen of the MCU movies support that. As for his lightning bolts, was that the only instance of him using it without weapons in the movie? Because that's like a sneeze compared to the lightning storm he was generating in Ragnarok. It still reinforces the fact that Taika is ridiculously inconsistent in portraying Thor's power levels. Thor has a bunch of powers they never really used. LIke the collector? Or was it Ego? Put him in a cage & he found the gap between dimensions & escaped. He fights Gorr without Stormbreaker before Mighty Thor returns. There is blue lightning
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 13, 2022 23:13:43 GMT
Any person is susceptible to increasing or decreasing performance depending on their mindset. But... that doesn't mean that they suddenly lose or develop powers or skillsets out of nowhere. I'm not talking about Thor being able to fight better or worse depending on his mindset, I'm talking about him being able to utilize his powers or not depending on his emotions. That's what you claimed, and nothing we've seen of the MCU movies support that. As for his lightning bolts, was that the only instance of him using it without weapons in the movie? Because that's like a sneeze compared to the lightning storm he was generating in Ragnarok. It still reinforces the fact that Taika is ridiculously inconsistent in portraying Thor's power levels. Thor has a bunch of powers they never really used. LIke the collector? Or was it Ego? Put him in a cage & he found the gap between dimensions & escaped. He fights Gorr without Stormbreaker before Mighty Thor returns. There is blue lightning We're not talking about comicbook Thor. We're talking about MCU Thor, and MCU Thor never got caged by the Collector or Ego. And yes, he fights Gorr without Stormbreaker BUT with Zeus' lightning bolt. Again, he was dependent on a weapon.
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