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Post by darkpast on May 27, 2017 4:44:52 GMT
On second watch its actually pretty good
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 27, 2017 5:41:34 GMT
There are some legitimate criticisms of the film's second half after the Quicksilver scene. The handling of Havok's death, the Weapon X scene that existed to advertise Logan, rushed Horsemen fight, and some very shoddy green screen in the Cario scenes.
But I think the film would have been better received had they just made it clear that they were playing with time immutable theory established in DOFP. Like mentioning it in the intro monologue or have Hank bring it up again. So that viewers would that know it was repetitive on purpose and served a narrative point. They shouldn't have expected people to remember one scene from a film that came out years ago.
Also they should have just said Apocalypse was altering the minds of the horsemen, instead of just being subtle about it.
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Post by darkpast on May 27, 2017 6:08:27 GMT
There are some legitimate criticisms of the film's second half after the Quicksilver scene. The handling of Havok's death, the Weapon X scene that existed to advertise Logan, rushed Horsemen fight, and some very shoddy green screen in the Cario scenes. But I think the film would have been better received had they just made it clear that they were playing with time immutable theory established in DOFP. Like mentioning it in the intro monologue or have Hank bring it up again. So that viewers would that know it was repetitive on purpose and served a narrative point. They shouldn't have expected people to remember one scene from a film that came out years ago. i guess, DOFP is overrated, i just don't know the point of Quicksilver and Magneto relationship, since he isn't really redeemed much in the future, and not mentioned well since he never existed before |
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Post by NewtJorden on May 27, 2017 14:57:13 GMT
Its much better than what people make it seems.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 27, 2017 14:57:58 GMT
Yes and no. It's overwrought and overly ambitious and doesn't spend enough time with any one character, really. But the general/main criticism seems to be with the Apocalypse character and, to a lesser extent, Oscar Issac. Personally I loved Apocalypse in this movie and if anything would've made him even more cartoony. He is essentially a Power Rangers villain who works best when turned up to 11, and he was about a 9.6 here. That said, the film improves on rewatches, is a good sequel to First Class and Days, admittedly calls itself the weakest of the three (the "Jedi" scene), and sets up future installments well. And I marked the fuck out for the Phoenix flare so hard I literally had goosebumps.
As Butters said of Indiana Jones 4, another movie everyone on the planet apparently hated but me, "I thought it was pretty good!"
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Post by charzhino on May 27, 2017 19:16:27 GMT
Apocalypse was okay but could have been so much better. Unfortunately, Mystique is the biggest problem in this movie. Whenever she is on screen, its torture. Get rid of her along with the Weapon X sequence and give Apocalypse more interactive dialogue with Xavier to justify his plan and spend more time on developing the younger mutants. Make the fight scenes better, increase the CGI world destruction and extend the battle on the astral plane. If they did all that, XMA would have been better than DOFP imo.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 28, 2017 14:41:13 GMT
Apocalypse was okay but could have been so much better. Unfortunately, Mystique is the biggest problem in this movie. Whenever she is on screen, its torture. Get rid of her along with the Weapon X sequence and give Apocalypse more interactive dialogue with Xavier to justify his plan and spend more time on developing the younger mutants. Make the fight scenes better, increase the CGI world destruction and extend the battle on the astral plane. If they did all that, XMA would have been better than DOFP imo. Lawrence sandbagged the film with her lazy, phoned-in performance, yeah. Good point. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 23:16:35 GMT
On second watch its actually pretty good Yes it's definitely underrated I mean come on 48%? It deserves at least the same RT score as Age of Ultron(I liked AOU by the way), they're both a solid 7.5/10 in fact they're practically the same movie when you think about it. The only difference is that Age of Ultron was a bit more coherent but Apocalypse had a slightly better villain. Apocalypse could have been a great villain if he had more screen time. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 23:17:45 GMT
Apocalypse was okay but could have been so much better. Unfortunately, Mystique is the biggest problem in this movie. Whenever she is on screen, its torture. Get rid of her along with the Weapon X sequence and give Apocalypse more interactive dialogue with Xavier to justify his plan and spend more time on developing the younger mutants. Make the fight scenes better, increase the CGI world destruction and extend the battle on the astral plane. If they did all that, XMA would have been better than DOFP imo. Lawrence sandbagged the film with her lazy, phoned-in performance, yeah. Good point. She didn't even have much of a purpose they could have easily written her character out. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 2:02:43 GMT
I loved it. It's the first X-Men movie (other than arguably First Class) that felt like a straight-up "superhero movie" (as opposed to the standard sci-fi/action flick that they normally put out -- which I also like).
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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 29, 2017 5:39:34 GMT
On second watch its actually pretty good Yes it's definitely underrated I mean come on 48%? It deserves at least the same RT score as Age of Ultron(I liked AOU by the way), they're both a solid 7.5/10 in fact they're practically the same movie when you think about it. The only difference is that Age of Ultron was a bit more coherent but Apocalypse had a slightly better villain. Apocalypse could have been a great villain if he had more screen time. Age of Ultron also had better production value and action. Then again, that movie had a much bigger budget. |
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Post by politicidal on May 30, 2017 0:02:48 GMT
It's overly hated, I'd say. 6/10. Entertaining but too long.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 2, 2017 14:19:25 GMT
I enjoyed most of it. Not the best X-Men movie, but certainly far more rewatchable than X3 or Wolverine Origins.
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Post by Stuart "2-D" Pot on Jun 8, 2017 12:29:16 GMT
On second watch its actually pretty good Yes it's definitely underrated I mean come on 48%? It deserves at least the same RT score as Age of Ultron(I liked AOU by the way), they're both a solid 7.5/10 in fact they're practically the same movie when you think about it. The only difference is that Age of Ultron was a bit more coherent but Apocalypse had a slightly better villain. Apocalypse could have been a great villain if he had more screen time. Agreed |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 8, 2017 18:36:34 GMT
Depends on what you mean. I certainly didn't think it was bad, but it wasn't exactly anything to write home about.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 2:41:38 GMT
No, the film is rated appropriately by those who hated it. It sucked.
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Post by brownstones on Jun 11, 2017 2:43:44 GMT
The movie is okay, just messy/bloated.
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Post by lukelovesfilm34 on Jul 2, 2017 22:06:01 GMT
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