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Post by Seeker on Jun 1, 2017 23:03:47 GMT
There's crying in tennis. It was 1-1 in sets and 1-1 in the 3rd set. Del Potro is upholding his sterling reputation, I see.
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Post by Jayman on Jun 1, 2017 23:21:34 GMT
I'm pulling for the Stanimal
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Post by baj2 on Jun 2, 2017 18:18:19 GMT
Unbelievable win for Rafa Nadal ( he yielded only 1 game in the 3-set win), Novak had to win the 5th set to take the match...and Spanish players are scoring wins( Bautista-Agut/Vinolas-Ramos/Carreno-Busta, in addition to Nadal have won their 3rd round matches). Injuries have led to retirements for Almagro and Goffin.
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Post by Jayman on Jun 2, 2017 21:03:57 GMT
Stanimal = excitement = victory! Obviously Nadal is the heavy favorite. I believe if he does win this it could be his last grand slam trophy
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Post by baj2 on Jun 3, 2017 1:56:43 GMT
Hard to say who is going to reign in the next year or so. Federer and Nadal have made strong comebacks. Murray and Djokovic seem unsettled. Wawrinka occasionally delivers but he does not have the charisma of the other four - sorry - but we'll see if he can be the finalist for the upper draw bracket... The NextGen is coming...but in fits and starts ( how strong are they on ALL surfaces?). I used to like team sports much more in the past...but I find sports like Tennis and F-1 racing much more to my liking now. Tennis is probably the most rigorous in terms of preparation ( training and fitness) and in actual execution ( especially during the 5-setter Grand Slams) -- and has to be consistent whether it is hardcourt/clay/grass or whether it is indoors/open air. True, F-1 carries with it physical danger and the racer's skills but it is still a team sports to some extent. A top tennis player must have the physical and mental edge all the time...and even emotional stability occasionally. Looking forward to the final week of Roland Garros ( although it seems that will start on Sunday )!
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Post by Jayman on Jun 3, 2017 2:02:56 GMT
Djokovic seemed to take a major dip in the last several months. And I believe Murray was out for awhile? And now Federer pulled out of this event. It's really a different era in tennis in the sense that the guys are staying on top into their late 20's and early 30's and the younger generation really has not made any significant breakthroughs in my view. The guys we thought would break through are now approaching their mid to late 20's also. I believe it's not as necessary to be strong on every surface. 9 months out of the year is played on hardcourts and if you can play on grass also you're fine.
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Post by baj2 on Jun 3, 2017 2:19:19 GMT
Grass looks exciting but only because Wimbledon is such a famous icon for the sport. But how many tournaments are actually played on that surface? It seems that it is only in the UK that professional grass tennis is still a favorite surface. Clay is the surface where many European players ( and also for South America mostly) grew up playing.
It's also interesting that by the time the last set of Masters and the O2 Finals come around - many of the players are suffering from injuries or competition fatigue. Maybe the year should be scheduled with a reduction in tournaments to give the players a little more time to regroup physically and adjusting to new surfaces. But of course since this is a professional sports, the sponsors' money ( including what the actual host venue may put up themselves) dictates the proliferation of tournaments. On top of that, there are Davis Cup matches and exhibition matches ( for charity or special sponsorships). Every 4 years, the Olympics turns up.
The same can be said almost for F-1 racing! Too much travelling and adjusting to local conditions.
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Post by Jayman on Jun 3, 2017 2:59:56 GMT
Not only do I agree with you about a reduction in tournaments but I"m sure the players do as well! As far as the scheduling of when the tournaments are I think like you said it has to do with the sponsors and also the weather and the seasons in each particular country. Ideally the whole damn season should get an overhaul. Other than Wimbledon, it's really only one small warmup event on grass a week before. Not even a masters event. So most guys are just playing 2 events a year on grass. Then Clay gets 3 masters events and one slam. The rest is all hardcourts. Aussie open, then the masters after that. Then all those months leading up the US open. And then the indoor hardcourts. I'd like to see each surface get equal time. It's also ridiculous that there's 10 masters events. How is it supposed to be something special anyways if there's so many of them? I say make some of those into 500 events or 250 and give the guys a break. And a full indoor season after all the slams are done? They're just playing for points at that period. Then like you said, with the Davis cup and the Olympics it makes it even harder. I imagine the Olympics are special to a lot of players but to some it must be a major burden to have that added to the schedule.
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Post by baj2 on Jun 3, 2017 4:01:14 GMT
I am not knowledgeable enough -- but maybe the costly upkeep of a grass surface court is what is holding back the proliferation of competition on this surface.
At least this season, they have added another week to regroup from the clay-French Grand Slam to facilitate the players adjustment to a different surface. So, starting 2017, we now have a 3-week hiatus between the two Slams.
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Post by Jayman on Jun 3, 2017 4:49:54 GMT
That's right I forgot about the longer break in between. I'm more of a casual fan myself. I usually just watch the semi's and finals at this point. I really don't follow the women's game much anymore. I am a Serena fan, and that was always a good reason to watch the finals, but it looks like she's basically done at this point.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jun 7, 2017 12:30:45 GMT
Thiem destroys Djokovic:
7-6 6-3 6-0
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Post by Jayman on Jun 7, 2017 14:55:24 GMT
Wow in straights? Them is the real deal he's top 10 but I"m beginning to believe that Djokovic is going to slowly just fade away
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Jun 7, 2017 17:05:25 GMT
Thiem has been doing really well this gravel season. Still hoping for Nadal to win the whole thing.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 7, 2017 22:35:18 GMT
Wow in straights? Them is the real deal he's top 10 but I"m beginning to believe that Djokovic is going to slowly just fade away Ages Federer 35 (36 in August) Wawrinka 32 Tsonga 32 Isner 32 Nadal 31 Berdych 31 Djokovic 30 Murray 30 Monfils 30 Cilic 28 del Potro 28 Nishikori 27 Raonic 26 Thiem 23 Zverev 20
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jun 7, 2017 23:16:49 GMT
Wow in straights? Them is the real deal he's top 10 but I"m beginning to believe that Djokovic is going to slowly just fade away Ages Federer 35 (36 in August) Wawrinka 32 Tsonga 32 Isner 32 Nadal 31 Berdych 31 Djokovic 30 Murray 30 Monfils 30 Cilic 28 del Potro 228 Nishikori 27 Raonic 26 Thiem 23 Zverev 20 Del Potro looks well for his age!
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Post by baj2 on Jun 8, 2017 1:33:41 GMT
There seems to be something bothering Djokovic -- as if his mind and heart were not in it. It's not as if his physical skills have diminished ( maybe an odd mild injury) but he is so different from the towering # 1 a year ago when he held all 4 Grand Slam titles at the same time! Although I wonder if he has some health issues now ( he used to have some breathing problems because of allergies) - he does not look very well and he has lost the fire in his eyes! He should take a lesson from Rafa - whose several comebacks into the game after injuries and even personal concerns have been remarkable! He has had knee problems, back injuries ( remember the Australian GS which he lost to Stan W?), wrist injury, even an appendectomy during the season...and of course the personal reasons when his mind and heart was not in the game - when he lost to Soderling at Roland Garros). Maybe the secret to his recovery is his treatment to recover hair loss, like Samson ... Plus of course his indomitable spirit! Another remarkable recovery is Roger F - he has learned to pace himself and simply concentrate on what he can do very well! We missed him at Roland Garros but he is probably already practicing on grass Those are the really top and legendary players in the game!
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Post by Jayman on Jun 8, 2017 5:14:40 GMT
Wow in straights? Them is the real deal he's top 10 but I"m beginning to believe that Djokovic is going to slowly just fade away Ages Federer 35 (36 in August) Wawrinka 32 Tsonga 32 Isner 32 Nadal 31 Berdych 31 Djokovic 30 Murray 30 Monfils 30 Cilic 28 del Potro 28 Nishikori 27 Raonic 26 Thiem 23 Zverev 20 Yeah but this is a new age. The young guys don't break through and the top guys all play their best in their late 20's and early 30's. It used to be that guys would fade away by the time they reached 27. Now they don't break through till their 27.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 8, 2017 20:55:37 GMT
So it's Simona Halep vs Jana Ostapenko in the Women's final.
Ostapenko is the first Latvian player to reach a Grand Slam final, and the first non-seeded woman since 1983 to play for the Roland Garros title. At 20 years of age (completed today), she is also the youngest female Grand Slam finalist since Caroline Wozniacki at the 2009 US Open.
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Post by hamsterman11 on Jun 9, 2017 3:24:04 GMT
Halep simply has to win this final, or she's a lifetime pretender.
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Post by Seeker on Jun 9, 2017 3:33:04 GMT
Go Halep! Do it for Killer Cahill!
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