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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 19, 2022 0:30:30 GMT
Something weird going on with the RT critic score and reviews of this show. Yesterday morning it was at 87%, then it jumped to 91%, then dropped back to 86%. Today I saw it at 84%, then jumped to 95%, then now at 89%. If never seen critic ratings jump around like that before. Also can't seem to consistently read the critic reviews. Sometimes they showed 8 reviews, sometimes only 3, now I can't seem to find any critic reviews on RT. Contemporary film criticism is a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 4:41:49 GMT
Something weird going on with the RT critic score and reviews of this show. Yesterday morning it was at 87%, then it jumped to 91%, then dropped back to 86%. Today I saw it at 84%, then jumped to 95%, then now at 89%. If never seen critic ratings jump around like that before. Also can't seem to consistently read the critic reviews. Sometimes they showed 8 reviews, sometimes only 3, now I can't seem to find any critic reviews on RT. I know, what gives? It has a score of 88% but no reviews are available.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 4:43:26 GMT
Something weird going on with the RT critic score and reviews of this show. Yesterday morning it was at 87%, then it jumped to 91%, then dropped back to 86%. Today I saw it at 84%, then jumped to 95%, then now at 89%. If never seen critic ratings jump around like that before. Also can't seem to consistently read the critic reviews. Sometimes they showed 8 reviews, sometimes only 3, now I can't seem to find any critic reviews on RT. Contemporary film criticism is a joke. It’s painfully clear that reviewers are scared to give bad reviews to the big Disney releases. It’s honestly pretty ridiculous that Obi Wan Kenobi and Thor Love and Thunder both have positive scores.
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Post by darkpast on Aug 19, 2022 4:51:15 GMT
show getting trashed online with low user scores , up to BP to save the MCU
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 19, 2022 12:30:20 GMT
I had a lot of fun with it, I think it's great so far. The nailed the comedic tone without making it so ridiculous as to be unwatchable. They got the origin stuff out of the way right off the bat, so now we can just get rolling with the story. It's going to be a different kind of superhero show, but a fun one all the same.
All of the stuff that bothered me about the trailers pretty much resolved itself in this one episode. She had better control of the Hulk transformations than Bruce (which is true to the comics), but she isn't some kind of superior Hulk, as the trailers made you believe. Looks like there will be a good blend of humor and action, and most importantly, it feels like it belongs in the MCU. The last two Disney+ shows have been unwatchable trash taking place in a vacuum, whereas this show is firmly tied into the central storyline.
A couple things I found odd:
In the beginning, why didn't she just tell people she was in a car accident and needed help? Seriously, what was she doing? I'm not exactly clear as to why Bruce was so hellbent on keeping her prisoner. It was clear she could handle it. She was incredibly rude to him, and he just brushes it off. I know they're cousins, but that was 'bad breakup, I'm never talking to you again' stuff right there. Seemed a little harsh even if he was kind of being a jerk at the time.
These are nitpicks and as a comedy, I think it'll be much easier to let little things slide. I will say the CGI was ok, but there was one scene where she was walking in the lab and it looked horrible. Like it was one of those 11th hour changes the VFX guys were complaining about or something.
All in all, I think it's set up to be a fun show, and I'm already looking forward to her joining the new Avengers team, whenever that is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 14:23:31 GMT
Congratulations, you've run into Rule 84 of the internet: Anyone who uses the term "woke" unironically is a d-bag. Don't get mad at me, I didn't make the rules. oh shit how could I forget about Rule 84 of the internet?! My sincerest apologies and I will sincerely try and do better while posting on this message board moving forward. after all words matter damn it!
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 19, 2022 14:31:02 GMT
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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 19, 2022 16:10:20 GMT
I can’t believe this is a real show they’re actually releasing. Context is important, but everything I’ve seen/heard coming from it is ridiculously bad.
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Post by onethreetwo on Aug 19, 2022 16:21:47 GMT
Huh? Is he really throwing shade?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 19, 2022 16:38:25 GMT
Huh? Is he really throwing shade? The post-credit scene is a humorous conversation about Captain America.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 19, 2022 16:38:50 GMT
Finally watched it, and this is a pretty uneven and inconsistent show for me.
For example, the action and fight scenes between Hulk and She-Hulk were great, but the action against Titania was hilariously bad. Like it came straight out of an episode from the '75 Wonder Woman TV show.
The CGI is sometimes fairly decent, and sometimes She-Hulk's hair looks like it's underwater and her movements make her look like she's filled with helium.
The humor is mostly decent, though the jokes don't land for me personally. At least it's nowhere near as silly as Thor L&T. But the 4th wall breaks are jarring. I know she does this in the comics but it just pops out of nowhere in this show and the overall tone of the show isn't comedic enough for the 4th wall breaks to work.
The feminist commentary are small enough and realistic enough that it isn't bothering me so far, though there are quite a bit of them packed into just the first episode. But if they put this much socio-political commentary into each episode then it's going to get real irritating real fast.
Her time with Hulk on the island was well done and decently paced, with both of them having great chemistry with each other. But the rest of the scenes outside of that island feel extremely rushed and underdeveloped, making me feel like I was just watching commercials and ads.
Tatiana Maslany is very charismatic in her role and she has a down-to-earth, relatable way of portraying She-Hulk. However, her character is also written to be quite smug. Handled properly that can be a good thing because it does make her less bland, but if they aren't careful it will start rubbing people the wrong way. I know by the time IM3 came out I was already pretty irritated with Tony Stark's snarky attitude, and it's a good thing they tone it down in succeeding movies after that.
Finally, it's good to see Hulk again and I'm glad he's getting some much needed character development after he's been snubbed in the last few movies. But I hate, HATE that these D+ shows keep character assassinating the OG characters just to make the newer characters shine. Loki was transformed into a silly, incompetent version of himself just to make Sophie shine. Hawkeye was turned into a jaded, pessimistic, almost lethargic anti-hero to highlight Kate Bishop's energy. Here Bruce Banner is depicted as an unreasonable, over-controlling cousin who's keen on dictating how his cousin should live her life as a hulk. It's completely incongruous with how Banner has been depicted in the past.
Anyway, the first episode was nowhere near as bad as I expected but it's inconsistent enough that I'm worried for future episodes. Hopefully the rest of the episodes will run smoother, but it's at least good enough that I think I'll watch it after all. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Post by Cat on Aug 19, 2022 16:46:50 GMT
Something weird going on with the RT critic score and reviews of this show. Yesterday morning it was at 87%, then it jumped to 91%, then dropped back to 86%. Today I saw it at 84%, then jumped to 95%, then now at 89%. If never seen critic ratings jump around like that before. Also can't seem to consistently read the critic reviews. Sometimes they showed 8 reviews, sometimes only 3, now I can't seem to find any critic reviews on RT. Contemporary film criticism is a joke. That I agree with. I don't know why people put so much stock in critics. It's an industry that exists because people don't think for themselves.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 19, 2022 17:23:44 GMT
Finally watched it, and this is a pretty uneven and inconsistent show for me. For example, the action and fight scenes between Hulk and She-Hulk were great, but the action against Titania was hilariously bad. Like it came straight out of an episode from the '75 Wonder Woman TV show. The CGI is sometimes fairly decent, and sometimes She-Hulk's hair looks like it's underwater and her movements make her look like she's filled with helium. The humor is mostly decent, though the jokes don't land for me personally. At least it's nowhere near as silly as Thor L&T. But the 4th wall breaks are jarring. I know she does this in the comics but it just pops out of nowhere in this show and the overall tone of the show isn't comedic enough for the 4th wall breaks to work. The feminist commentary are small enough and realistic enough that it isn't bothering me so far, though there are quite a bit of them packed into just the first episode. But if they put this much socio-political commentary into each episode then it's going to get real irritating real fast. Her time with Hulk on the island was well done and decently paced, with both of them having great chemistry with each other. But the rest of the scenes outside of that island feel extremely rushed and underdeveloped, making me feel like I was just watching commercials and ads. Tatiana Maslany is very charismatic in her role and she has a down-to-earth, relatable way of portraying She-Hulk. However, her character is also written to be quite smug. Handled properly that can be a good thing because it does make her less bland, but if they aren't careful it will start rubbing people the wrong way. I know by the time IM3 came out I was already pretty irritated with Tony Stark's snarky attitude, and it's a good thing they tone it down in succeeding movies after that. Finally, it's good to see Hulk again and I'm glad he's getting some much needed character development after he's been snubbed in the last few movies. But I hate, HATE that these D+ shows keep character assassinating the OG characters just to make the newer characters shine. Loki was transformed into a silly, incompetent version of himself just to make Sophie shine. Hawkeye was turned into a jaded, pessimistic, almost lethargic anti-hero to highlight Kate Bishop's energy. Here Bruce Banner is depicted as an unreasonable, over-controlling cousin who's keen on dictating how his cousin should live her life as a hulk. It's completely incongruous with how Banner has been depicted in the past. Anyway, the first episode was nowhere near as bad as I expected but it's inconsistent enough that I'm worried for future episodes. Hopefully the rest of the episodes will run smoother, but it's at least good enough that I think I'll watch it after all. Keeping my fingers crossed. Pretty much agree with most of what you said, but for whatever reason I think I enjoyed it more. The Titania fight was deliberately cartoonish. I mean hell, look at the costume. I expect the tone of the show to be similar to this; it's similar to her Sensational She-Hulk title. If you're expecting a serious show, I think you're going to be disappointed. As far as tone, I expect this to be somewhere between the typical MCU and Deadpool. I thought Bruce trying to hold her captive was strange, but not as bad as the Hulk quitting in Infinity War. At least his arm is healed now. Anyway I thought Hawkeye's attitude made sense, considering the PTSD he's clearly suffering from. Funny you called female Loki Sophie. It's actually Sylvie, but I did the exact same thing, I think for months, before realizing I was using the wrong name. I think we can all agree Hulk's bungalow is one of the best locations in all the MCU.
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 19, 2022 18:26:35 GMT
She-Skank: Attention Whore.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2022 21:20:43 GMT
When do they release the viewership numbers? I remember reading that Ms Marvel was their worst ever. Curious if this one did any better…
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 19, 2022 21:57:42 GMT
When do they release the viewership numbers? I remember reading that Ms Marvel was their worst ever. Curious if this one did any better… No idea. I'm curious about that too.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 19, 2022 22:04:30 GMT
This series is going to have 9 episodes instead of the recent 6 episodes we've been getting with the past shows like Falcon and The Winter Soldier, Loki, Moon Knight and Ms. Marvel.
We haven't had a 9 episode series from Marvel Studios since WandaVision and What If...?
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 20, 2022 1:24:20 GMT
Finally watched it, and this is a pretty uneven and inconsistent show for me. For example, the action and fight scenes between Hulk and She-Hulk were great, but the action against Titania was hilariously bad. Like it came straight out of an episode from the '75 Wonder Woman TV show. The CGI is sometimes fairly decent, and sometimes She-Hulk's hair looks like it's underwater and her movements make her look like she's filled with helium. The humor is mostly decent, though the jokes don't land for me personally. At least it's nowhere near as silly as Thor L&T. But the 4th wall breaks are jarring. I know she does this in the comics but it just pops out of nowhere in this show and the overall tone of the show isn't comedic enough for the 4th wall breaks to work. The feminist commentary are small enough and realistic enough that it isn't bothering me so far, though there are quite a bit of them packed into just the first episode. But if they put this much socio-political commentary into each episode then it's going to get real irritating real fast. Her time with Hulk on the island was well done and decently paced, with both of them having great chemistry with each other. But the rest of the scenes outside of that island feel extremely rushed and underdeveloped, making me feel like I was just watching commercials and ads. Tatiana Maslany is very charismatic in her role and she has a down-to-earth, relatable way of portraying She-Hulk. However, her character is also written to be quite smug. Handled properly that can be a good thing because it does make her less bland, but if they aren't careful it will start rubbing people the wrong way. I know by the time IM3 came out I was already pretty irritated with Tony Stark's snarky attitude, and it's a good thing they tone it down in succeeding movies after that. Finally, it's good to see Hulk again and I'm glad he's getting some much needed character development after he's been snubbed in the last few movies. But I hate, HATE that these D+ shows keep character assassinating the OG characters just to make the newer characters shine. Loki was transformed into a silly, incompetent version of himself just to make Sophie shine. Hawkeye was turned into a jaded, pessimistic, almost lethargic anti-hero to highlight Kate Bishop's energy. Here Bruce Banner is depicted as an unreasonable, over-controlling cousin who's keen on dictating how his cousin should live her life as a hulk. It's completely incongruous with how Banner has been depicted in the past. Anyway, the first episode was nowhere near as bad as I expected but it's inconsistent enough that I'm worried for future episodes. Hopefully the rest of the episodes will run smoother, but it's at least good enough that I think I'll watch it after all. Keeping my fingers crossed. Pretty much agree with most of what you said, but for whatever reason I think I enjoyed it more. The Titania fight was deliberately cartoonish. I mean hell, look at the costume. I expect the tone of the show to be similar to this; it's similar to her Sensational She-Hulk title. If you're expecting a serious show, I think you're going to be disappointed. As far as tone, I expect this to be somewhere between the typical MCU and Deadpool. I thought Bruce trying to hold her captive was strange, but not as bad as the Hulk quitting in Infinity War. At least his arm is healed now. Anyway I thought Hawkeye's attitude made sense, considering the PTSD he's clearly suffering from. Funny you called female Loki Sophie. It's actually Sylvie, but I did the exact same thing, I think for months, before realizing I was using the wrong name. I think we can all agree Hulk's bungalow is one of the best locations in all the MCU. It's probably because I've slowly learned to be more cynical of these MCU D+ shows. I mean, outside of What If and Ms. Marvel, I've pretty much loved every single first episode of all these D+ shows... only to slowly get let down as they consistently fell off the cliff with each succeeding episode. So now I'm a lot more hesitant to jump in with both feet right from the get go. I'm quite a bit more sensitive to potential red flags and I'm withholding my positivity and excitement till we've gotten past the first few episodes. Also, you're right it was Sylvie not Sophie. Just goes to show how much I hate that character. lol. They should have just named her Floki, saved us all the confusion.
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Post by havenless on Aug 20, 2022 2:22:17 GMT
If you believe the rumor vine, the word is that Hulk had a son in Sakaar and the next Hulk movie will deal with the repercussions of that. So Planet Hulk maybe and/or World War Hulk. Which conveniently lines up just before D23 this fall, which is supposed to be a massive showing for Marvel. Much bigger than Comic-Con. So they tease Sakaar is after Hulk in She-Hulk, then announce WWH or at least Planet Hulk at D23
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Post by havenless on Aug 20, 2022 2:26:00 GMT
This series is going to have 9 episodes instead of the recent 6 episodes we've been getting with the past shows like Falcon and The Winter Soldier, Loki, Moon Knight and Ms. Marvel. We haven't had a 9 episode series from Marvel Studios since WandaVision and What If...? But then these are only 30-40 minute episodes as opposed to 1 hr. I think WandaVision was an exception because they wanted to start Disney+ with a bang. Maybe For What If…? Animation is cheaper than live action CGI stuff.
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