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Post by CrepedCrusader on Sept 7, 2022 2:04:15 GMT
I finally got around to reading the entire Duel of the Fates script (i.e. Colin Trevorrow's unfilmed Episode IX script).
Things I liked:
* Both Finn and Rose were given more to do. They were both sort of sidelined in tRoS, especially Rose.
* We had a moment where Threepio acknowledges how much he loves Artoo after Artoo is grievously injured.
* The Battle of Coruscant would've been badass on the screen.
* The truth of Rey's parentage is less messy than the "Palpatine's granddaughter" reveal.
* More "force ghost" Luke.
* No confusing "force dyad" stuff.
Things I wasn't crazy about:
* Retconning the identity of Darth Plagueis's master from the Plagueis novel.
* I thought Kylo's death was more anti-climactic than in tRoS.
There's also something I could've seen being a problem for production: Whereas J.J. wrote around Carrie Fisher's absence and with the knowledge of exactly what footage from the TFA shoot they'd be able to use, this script would've been unfilmable without either recasting Leia or using a CGI Leia, either of which would've led to outcry from a portion of the fandom. IIRC, one of the bones of contention between Trevorrow and Lucasfilm was that he didn't want to rewrite the script to account for Fisher's loss.
Some surprising similarities between this and tRoS: Rey and Kylo travel to a mysterious planet in the Unknown Regions, where Kylo sacrifices himself for Rey; the theme of stormtroopers going against their programming like Finn did (Jannah and her crew in tRoS, the stormtroopers on Coruscant in DotF); the Resistance being on the edge of defeat when an armada led by Lando shows up to help save the day.
Overall, I thought it was a pretty good script. Hard to say if it would have been better, though. Certainly less messy and confusing in spots, but there were a lot of things I liked in tRoS that I would've missed.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Sept 7, 2022 3:17:31 GMT
There were clearly things in TRoS that were lifted from DotF, most notably the revelation that Rey’s parents left her on Jakku to keep her safe, only to get killed by the villains shortly afterwards, which would explain why Colin Trevorrow has a story credit for the finished movie.
It’s hard to tell how the ST as a whole would be looked back on if DotF had been made. It’s much less reactionary than TRoS, which makes sense, given that it was written before TLJ was released, but that also means that most of the controversial things from TLJ wouldn’t have been undone. The script is also still a bit messy, but maybe a couple of additional rewrites could’ve fixed that. Then again, this is Colin Trevorrow we’re talking about.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 31, 2022 15:23:04 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 31, 2022 17:47:32 GMT
Wasn’t that character supposed to be called The Oracle or something?
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 19, 2022 21:28:26 GMT
More or less agree with your pros and cons. Couple others:
Pro:
-Hux trying and failing to become force sensitive is pathetically amusing, probably better than his role in TRoS
-Kylo isn't actually redeemed, nor does Rey make out with a guy who tortured her
Cons:
-the Rey/Poe romance. Wtf was that?
In general, it would have been better for the film and trilogy overall to have a movie that followed TLJ, rather than retcon and apologize for it for 3 hours to the appeasement of no one.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 7, 2023 1:37:36 GMT
If I remember that Vader comic correctly, things got a little goofy around that time. Cool visuals, but silly.
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