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Post by dividavi on Sept 8, 2022 18:08:47 GMT
School Baptizes More Than 100 Kids Without PermissionNC school says the 'Spirit of the Lord moved'link to newser reportBy Rob Quinn, Newser Staff Posted Sep 7, 2022 2:57 PM CDT  "Truly, the Lord began to move this morning and we were so excited about what the Lord was doing," McLamb told parents. (Getty Images/Anastasiia Stiahailo)
(NEWSER) – A Christian school in North Carolina has apologized after it baptized more than 100 middle and high school students without their parents' knowledge. Renee McLamb, head of Northwood Temple Academy in Fayetteville, told parents that only three students were supposed to be baptized in a ceremony Thursday, but "the Spirit of the Lord moved and the invitation to accept the Lord and be baptized was given and the students just began to respond to the presence of the Lord," the Fayetteville Observer reports. In a Facebook post Thursday, the school, which is affiliated with the Northwood Temple Pentecostal Holiness Church, said it had students "spontaneously declare their faith and get baptized today," per the Hill. McLamb said parents are usually invited to attend baptisms and "it was not the intention of any faculty member to do anything behind a parent’s back or in any kind of secret way. ... I do understand that parents would desire to be a part of something so wonderful happening in the lives of their children, and so I apologize that we did not take that into consideration in that moment." The mother of an 11-year-old girl, who declined to give her name because she was worried her daughter might be removed from the school, tells the Observer that she didn't find out about the baptism until her daughter called her at work. "[She] says, ‘Mama, can you bring me some dry clothes? I got baptized today.' I said, 'WHAT?'" She says she wishes the school had handed out permission slips or invitations. McLamb says that while a few parents were upset or angry, most were happy. She says some students were being baptized for a second time and they wanted it to happen in front of their classmates. (Read more baptism stories.)
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Post by Isapop on Sept 8, 2022 19:01:43 GMT
School Baptizes More Than 100 Kids Without PermissionNC school says the 'Spirit of the Lord moved'link to newser reportBy Rob Quinn, Newser Staff Posted Sep 7, 2022 2:57 PM CDT "Truly, the Lord began to move this morning and we were so excited about what the Lord was doing," McLamb told parents. (Getty Images/Anastasiia Stiahailo)
(NEWSER) – A Christian school in North Carolina has apologized after it baptized more than 100 middle and high school students without their parents' knowledge. Renee McLamb, head of Northwood Temple Academy in Fayetteville, told parents that only three students were supposed to be baptized in a ceremony Thursday, but "the Spirit of the Lord moved and the invitation to accept the Lord and be baptized was given and the students just began to respond to the presence of the Lord," the Fayetteville Observer reports. In a Facebook post Thursday, the school, which is affiliated with the Northwood Temple Pentecostal Holiness Church, said it had students "spontaneously declare their faith and get baptized today," per the Hill. McLamb said parents are usually invited to attend baptisms and "it was not the intention of any faculty member to do anything behind a parent’s back or in any kind of secret way. ... I do understand that parents would desire to be a part of something so wonderful happening in the lives of their children, and so I apologize that we did not take that into consideration in that moment." The mother of an 11-year-old girl, who declined to give her name because she was worried her daughter might be removed from the school, tells the Observer that she didn't find out about the baptism until her daughter called her at work. "[She] says, ‘Mama, can you bring me some dry clothes? I got baptized today.' I said, 'WHAT?'" She says she wishes the school had handed out permission slips or invitations. McLamb says that while a few parents were upset or angry, most were happy. She says some students were being baptized for a second time and they wanted it to happen in front of their classmates. (Read more baptism stories.) Looking at the circumstances, it's hard to believe that this would be the first time this has happened there. (Or even just the second time.)
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Post by dividavi on Sept 8, 2022 19:20:53 GMT
Looking at the circumstances, it's hard to believe that this would be the first time this has happened there. (Or even just the second time.) Just to be clear, are you implying that Renee McLamb, head of Northwood Temple Academy in Fayetteville, is a liar? That's what I'm saying.
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Post by Isapop on Sept 8, 2022 19:29:26 GMT
Looking at the circumstances, it's hard to believe that this would be the first time this has happened there. (Or even just the second time.) Just to be clear, are you implying that Renee McLamb, head of Northwood Temple Academy in Fayetteville, is a liar? That's what I'm saying. Well now, Renee never said this never happened before. Are we really to think that this is the first time that, in her words, "the Spirit of the Lord moved and the invitation to accept the Lord and be baptized was given and the students just began to respond to the presence of the Lord"? Like the Lord was always just sitting it out before and NOW decides to get more involved?
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Post by Sarge on Sept 10, 2022 20:37:42 GMT
I didn't know kids needed permission to be baptized, especially in a Christian school. The idea seems absurd.
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Post by Marv on Sept 13, 2022 18:08:51 GMT
My only real issue is that they apparently had kids with wet clothes and nothing to change into afterward.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Sept 13, 2022 18:38:06 GMT
The only western country something like that could happen is the United States.
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Post by Isapop on Sept 13, 2022 19:40:28 GMT
The only western country something like that could happen is the United States. Proof that America is special to God.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Sept 13, 2022 19:43:22 GMT
The only western country something like that could happen is the United States. Proof that America is special to God. God is not real. But if you want to belive in things that are not real. You have the freedom to do so.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Sept 14, 2022 0:13:42 GMT
The only western country something like that could happen is the United States. Maybe Australia? They actually didn't legalize gay marriage till after we did, and we were already kinda late to the party. I could imagine this maybe happening in Hungary as well (Orban is a Christian fascist)
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Post by amyghost on Sept 14, 2022 1:05:49 GMT
This is coming from a religion that was A-okay with the notion of forced conversions of Jews and Islamics for centuries (and may still today be engaging in the practice in Africa), so why on earth would anyone be amazed at their sneaking in a few underhanded baptisms here and there?
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Post by Hnefahogg on Sept 19, 2022 14:22:31 GMT
I didn't know kids needed permission to be baptized, especially in a Christian school. The idea seems absurd. I remember an episode of All in the Family where Archie Bunker baptizes his grandson Joey against his father Mike/Meathead's consent. Since this was a Christian school, I don't really see what the fuss is about. Do non-Christians send their kids to Christian schools out of no other options, or what? |
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Post by Sarge on Sept 22, 2022 19:19:37 GMT
I didn't know kids needed permission to be baptized, especially in a Christian school. The idea seems absurd. I remember an episode of All in the Family where Archie Bunker baptizes his grandson Joey against his father Mike/Meathead's consent. Since this was a Christian school, I don't really see what the fuss is about. Do non-Christians send their kids to Christian schools out of no other options, or what? Yeah, completely different context. My kid was baptized without my permission and against my wishes (I was being stubborn) by the grandparents and my wife went along with it. Baptism is meaningless except to those performing it, but I didn't like them going behind my back, it makes me distrust them. I didn't find out until years later and since my wife gave permission, I let it go. And my kids attended a Christian school for a time, which I went along with because I hoped they might make better connections than public school. They took part in rituals like communion without explicit parental permission because it's understood that it goes with the territory. So I find it very strange that parents would be upset their children in a Christian school would undergo Christian rituals, so strange I suspect it's manufactured outrage.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 23, 2022 18:28:51 GMT
I remember an episode of All in the Family where Archie Bunker baptizes his grandson Joey against his father Mike/Meathead's consent. Since this was a Christian school, I don't really see what the fuss is about. Do non-Christians send their kids to Christian schools out of no other options, or what? Yeah, completely different context. My kid was baptized without my permission and against my wishes (I was being stubborn) by the grandparents and my wife went along with it. Baptism is meaningless except to those performing it, but I didn't like them going behind my back, it makes me distrust them. I didn't find out until years later and since my wife gave permission, I let it go. And my kids attended a Christian school for a time, which I went along with because I hoped they might make better connections than public school. They took part in rituals like communion without explicit parental permission because it's understood that it goes with the territory. So I find it very strange that parents would be upset their children in a Christian school would undergo Christian rituals, so strange I suspect it's manufactured outrage. Did your kids go on the be Christians, from their early exposure, or did they find it all meaningless to them?
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Post by Sarge on Sept 24, 2022 6:36:46 GMT
Yeah, completely different context. My kid was baptized without my permission and against my wishes (I was being stubborn) by the grandparents and my wife went along with it. Baptism is meaningless except to those performing it, but I didn't like them going behind my back, it makes me distrust them. I didn't find out until years later and since my wife gave permission, I let it go. And my kids attended a Christian school for a time, which I went along with because I hoped they might make better connections than public school. They took part in rituals like communion without explicit parental permission because it's understood that it goes with the territory. So I find it very strange that parents would be upset their children in a Christian school would undergo Christian rituals, so strange I suspect it's manufactured outrage. Did your kids go on the be Christians, from their early exposure, or did they find it all meaningless to them? The oldest has no interest. I don't know her beliefs, but I would guess agnostic or maybe atheist. The youngest has a conservative streak that could turn her toward religion later in life but for now it's just a chance to socialize. She and my wife attend a protestant bible study group. Considering all 3 have attended Christian school, and 2 continue to attend a Bible study, they don't Jack Squat about the Bible, no more than a child who attends Sunday School. I spend more time studying the Bible than the rest of my family combined and I'm an atheist.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 24, 2022 17:49:28 GMT
Did your kids go on the be Christians, from their early exposure, or did they find it all meaningless to them? The oldest has no interest. I don't know her beliefs, but I would guess agnostic or maybe atheist. The youngest has a conservative streak that could turn her toward religion later in life but for now it's just a chance to socialize. She and my wife attend a protestant bible study group. Considering all 3 have attended Christian school, and 2 continue to attend a Bible study, they don't Jack Squat about the Bible, no more than a child who attends Sunday School. I spend more time studying the Bible than the rest of my family combined and I'm an atheist. Yeah, my mother, in her late 90s, was sad she could no longer go to Bible study at the church. Mobility issues. I said, "after 90 plus years, you ought to be able to recite it by memory." She was not amused. At Bible study, when I was a child, they only told you the parts they wanted you to hear. None of the ugly stuff or the contradictions. I have been an agnostic atheist for thirty-some years, now, and in the end, at age 98, she was still trying to talk me back into the herd of sheep. It didn't work.
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Post by rizdek on Sept 24, 2022 20:08:04 GMT
Hopefully they went better'n this one:
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