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Post by clusium on Sept 14, 2022 20:34:23 GMT
I don't think it would. God in Christianity is usually defined as a male at the very least. Or above gender as we know it. But Jesus is clearly a man and for denominations that believe in the trinity, another aspect of God is God the Father. Also male. I guess the Holy Spirit is gender neutral. In my experience the Holy Spirit is generally considered female, having said that, the Holy Spirit is part of the Triumvirate of the person of God™ which would make God™ both male and female. No, the Holy Spirit is usually spoken of in the Masculine Sense, just as the Father Is, & just as the Son Is.
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Post by gadreel on Sept 14, 2022 21:05:00 GMT
In my experience the Holy Spirit is generally considered female, having said that, the Holy Spirit is part of the Triumvirate of the person of God™ which would make God™ both male and female. No, the Holy Spirit is usually spoken of in the Masculine Sense, just as the Father Is, & just as the Son Is. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_of_the_Holy_Spirit
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2022 22:16:43 GMT
Show me something that came from nothing, and I'll show where you've said everything needs a creator. What? I'm serious. Today I learned that atoms, light elements, fundamental forces, and everything else we see around us, including the things that are too far away to see, that were once contained in an impossibly tiny point is actually nothing. "Saying the deity was always there and holds magical powers just avoids the question."So instead, we say the universe itself was always there and holds magical powers and pretend we didn't avoid the question. I've never even implied it, let alone ambiguously. You seem to be having difficulty accepting defeat, so you convince yourself that your opposition must have cheated.
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Post by gadreel on Sept 14, 2022 22:32:15 GMT
Today I learned that atoms, light elements, fundamental forces, and everything else we see around us, including the things that are too far away to see, that were once contained in an impossibly tiny point is actually nothing. "Saying the deity was always there and holds magical powers just avoids the question."So instead, we say the universe itself was always there and holds magical powers and pretend we didn't avoid the question. I've never even implied it, let alone ambiguously. You seem to be having difficulty accepting defeat, so you convince yourself that your opposition must have cheated. You should read what you write.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2022 22:43:28 GMT
Today I learned that atoms, light elements, fundamental forces, and everything else we see around us, including the things that are too far away to see, that were once contained in an impossibly tiny point is actually nothing. "Saying the deity was always there and holds magical powers just avoids the question."So instead, we say the universe itself was always there and holds magical powers and pretend we didn't avoid the question. I've never even implied it, let alone ambiguously. You seem to be having difficulty accepting defeat, so you convince yourself that your opposition must have cheated. You should read what you write. Don't be silly. Of course I read what I write. You should try it sometime.
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Post by gadreel on Sept 14, 2022 22:47:10 GMT
You should read what you write. Don't be silly. Of course I read what I write. You should try it sometime. ok then you should understand what you write EDIT out of interest how was I defeated? by you not understanding the rock argument?
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Post by Sarge on Sept 14, 2022 22:54:54 GMT
Show me something that came from nothing, and I'll show where you've said everything needs a creator. What? I'm serious. I've never said that, either. Strike two. No, I said that, it's right there in my post. Incidentally you're up to about strike 37 if we are keeping score.
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Post by clusium on Sept 14, 2022 23:09:33 GMT
Yes, I've read that Wikipedia entry thousands of times too. The Holy Spirit is almost always spoken of in the Masculine. Among the numerous Titles of the Blessed Virgin Mary, for example, is Spouse Of the Holy Spirit (because she Conceived Our Lord By the Holy Spirit).
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Post by gadreel on Sept 14, 2022 23:14:30 GMT
Yes, I've read that Wikipedia entry thousands of times too. The Holy Spirit is almost always spoken of in the Masculine. Among the numerous Titles of the Blessed Virgin Mary, for example, is Spouse Of the Holy Spirit (because she Conceived Our Lord By the Holy Spirit). Ok that is not my experience.
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Post by gadreel on Sept 14, 2022 23:15:17 GMT
I've never said that, either. Strike two. No, I said that, it's right there in my post. Incidentally you're up to about strike 37 if we are keeping score. Perhaps you are just not accepting that you were defeated???
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2022 23:20:50 GMT
I've never said that, either. Strike two. No, I said that, it's right there in my post. Incidentally you're up to about strike 37 if we are keeping score. Oh, you're saying you can't show me where I said everything needs a creator in the same way that I can't show you something that came from nothing. That's strike three, and I wasn't even pitching.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2022 23:21:41 GMT
No, I said that, it's right there in my post. Incidentally you're up to about strike 37 if we are keeping score. Perhaps you are just not accepting that you were defeated??? Nah, he's just not accepting that I never said what he thinks I said.
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Post by gadreel on Sept 14, 2022 23:30:21 GMT
Perhaps you are just not accepting that you were defeated??? Nah, he's just not accepting that I never said what he thinks I said. You do have a tendency to not understand the implied meaning in what you say.
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Post by Admin on Sept 14, 2022 23:47:02 GMT
Nah, he's just not accepting that I never said what he thinks I said. You do have a tendency to not understand the implied meaning in what you say. "Nothing comes from nothing" and "nothing can create itself" are direct, unambiguous statements. Funny how you only read what you want me to say.
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Post by gadreel on Sept 15, 2022 0:11:38 GMT
You do have a tendency to not understand the implied meaning in what you say. "Nothing comes from nothing" and "nothing can create itself" are direct, unambiguous statements. Funny how you only read what you want me to say. And you are a master of statements that have absolutely no bearing at all on the conversation at hand. I wonder if you took lessons?
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Post by Admin on Sept 15, 2022 0:16:00 GMT
"Nothing comes from nothing" and "nothing can create itself" are direct, unambiguous statements. Funny how you only read what you want me to say. And you are a master of statements that have absolutely no bearing at all on the conversation at hand. I wonder if you took lessons? imdb2.freeforums.net/post/5601013/threadYou really are in your own little world, aren't you?
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Post by gadreel on Sept 15, 2022 0:19:12 GMT
And you are a master of statements that have absolutely no bearing at all on the conversation at hand. I wonder if you took lessons? IMDB2.freeforums.net/post/5601013/threadYou really are in your own little world, aren't you? bwahahahahahaha Do you think it is possible I am referring to a conversation I was part of?? No you just make assumptions and run with them.
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Post by Admin on Sept 15, 2022 0:24:51 GMT
bwahahahahahaha Do you think it is possible I am referring to a conversation I was part of?? No you just make assumptions and run with them. You made yourself a part of this conversation: imdb2.freeforums.net/post/5601788/thread
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Post by Sarge on Sept 15, 2022 0:56:30 GMT
No, I said that, it's right there in my post. Incidentally you're up to about strike 37 if we are keeping score. Oh, you're saying you can't show me where I said everything needs a creator in the same way that I can't show you something that came from nothing. That's strike three, and I wasn't even pitching. Strike 38 (I'm guestimating) But at least you didn't completely deny that I wrote what I wrote when it's in your quote, so I will make a note of your progress.
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Post by Admin on Sept 15, 2022 1:45:35 GMT
Oh, you're saying you can't show me where I said everything needs a creator in the same way that I can't show you something that came from nothing. That's strike three, and I wasn't even pitching. Strike 38 (I'm guestimating) But at least you didn't completely deny that I wrote what I wrote when it's in your quote, so I will make a note of your progress. I wouldn't deny that you wrote what you wrote, especially as I'm quoting it. But I would deny that I wrote what I didn't write, especially as you are not quoting it.
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