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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 19, 2022 12:08:06 GMT
Nauseating, vomit inducing, Blind Homers..... Stop posting selfies, Frogs. Identity theft is a serious issue in this day and age.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 19, 2022 13:10:03 GMT
Cries of "conspiracy!" from fans. Small market team advances to a championship round: "the league is trying to help the little guys!" Big market team advances instead: "they just want better ratings!" Yes, the league and refs are throwing games depending on which final matchup would produce better TV ratings even though the entire country will watch the Super Bowl no matter who's in it. Yes, there are instances you can point to where the reffing really was suspicious (Lakers/Kings 2002) but the far more likely explanation is that the refs made mistakes which they'll do in every game, same as how the best players and best coaches in their given sports will make mistakes during games. "The draft is rigged!" Yes, the NBA really wanted Zion in New Orleans. The NHL really wanted McDavid in Edmonton. The NFL really wanted Burrow in Cincinnati and Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville.
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 19, 2022 13:19:14 GMT
Ok, but you know there's this invention called the clock. It has 12 numbers on it, but the day has 24 hours. The day starts at 12, which is at night, there are two hands of different sizes that mean totality different things, and another fun fact about it is the 6 means 30. I taught all of this to a 5 year old and she learned it pretty easily. I think we can handle a couple overtime rules. I can understand that you're being a dick, but I don't understand why you think anything you said has any relationship to what I said. It's always amusing to see someone talking down to you and calling you stupid by trying patronize you with the dumbest bullshit you've read in a while. I'm not trying to be a dick or patronizing. Just explaining that there are multiple things we do everyday that are more complex than NFL overtime. Even the game is complicated. 4 downs to go 10 yards? Line of scrimmage? 1 foot and a toe is a catch, 1 foot and a heel isn't? Field goals are 3 points, except after touchdowns they are 1 point. After a touchdown which is 6 points you can go for 2 from the 2 or a field goal from the 15 for 1. I am sorry I made you think I was condescending.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 19, 2022 13:34:20 GMT
I can understand that you're being a dick, but I don't understand why you think anything you said has any relationship to what I said. It's always amusing to see someone talking down to you and calling you stupid by trying patronize you with the dumbest bullshit you've read in a while. I'm not trying to be a dick or patronizing. Just explaining that there are multiple things we do everyday that are more complex than NFL overtime. Even the game is complicated. 4 downs to go 10 yards? Line of scrimmage? 1 foot and a toe is a catch, 1 foot and a heel isn't? Field goals are 3 points, except after touchdowns they are 1 point. After a touchdown which is 6 points you can go for 2 from the 2 or a field goal from the 15 for 1. I am sorry I made you think I was condescending. You were trying to be patronizing, there's no way around it. And it still doesn't make sense. What you said is, 'Even though overtime rules are bad and don't work, we shouldn't improve them because I know what a clock is.' It makes less sense than anything I've seen in a long time, and I just watched Halloween Ends.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 19, 2022 13:45:30 GMT
PED suspensions D-Hop is coming back for the Cards Curious to see if he lost a step or if he and Skyler Murray continue to light it up Pretty big boxing match was just cancelled for this as well
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 19, 2022 14:01:03 GMT
I'm not trying to be a dick or patronizing. Just explaining that there are multiple things we do everyday that are more complex than NFL overtime. Even the game is complicated. 4 downs to go 10 yards? Line of scrimmage? 1 foot and a toe is a catch, 1 foot and a heel isn't? Field goals are 3 points, except after touchdowns they are 1 point. After a touchdown which is 6 points you can go for 2 from the 2 or a field goal from the 15 for 1. I am sorry I made you think I was condescending. You were trying to be patronizing, there's no way around it. And it still doesn't make sense. What you said is, 'Even though overtime rules are bad and don't work, we shouldn't improve them because I know what a clock is.' It makes less sense than anything I've seen in a long time, and I just watched Halloween Ends. They do suck, but they suck because after 2 possessions there's two minutes left on the clock and teams are happy to take a tie. They do not suck because a field goal doesn't immediately win it.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 19, 2022 14:07:30 GMT
You were trying to be patronizing, there's no way around it. And it still doesn't make sense. What you said is, 'Even though overtime rules are bad and don't work, we shouldn't improve them because I know what a clock is.' It makes less sense than anything I've seen in a long time, and I just watched Halloween Ends. They do suck, but they suck because after 2 possessions there's two minutes left on the clock and teams are happy to take a tie. They do not suck because a field goal doesn't immediately win it. They suck because the whole notion of sudden death is bad in football, and rather than do away with that, they just made it more convoluted. I never said a field goal should immediately win it. I always hated that. I said that they should just put time on the clock and play without other BS qualifiers.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 19, 2022 14:19:19 GMT
Shotgun formations when you're at the opposing teams 1 yard line and about to punch it in
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 19, 2022 14:49:12 GMT
They do suck, but they suck because after 2 possessions there's two minutes left on the clock and teams are happy to take a tie. They do not suck because a field goal doesn't immediately win it. They suck because the whole notion of sudden death is bad in football, and rather than do away with that, they just made it more convoluted. I never said a field goal should immediately win it. I always hated that. I said that they should just put time on the clock and play without other BS qualifiers. Putting time on the clock doesn't get rid of the problem of teams playing too safe and using as much time as they can when they have the ball in overtime. You get 2 possessions with 5 -7 safe plays each, That's between 6-8 minutes off the clock. With those two possessions. It's even worse if the first team to have the ball gets in field goal range.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 19, 2022 15:05:45 GMT
They suck because the whole notion of sudden death is bad in football, and rather than do away with that, they just made it more convoluted. I never said a field goal should immediately win it. I always hated that. I said that they should just put time on the clock and play without other BS qualifiers. Putting time on the clock doesn't get rid of the problem of teams playing too safe and using as much time as they can when they have the ball in overtime. You get 2 possessions with 5 -7 safe plays each, That's between 6-8 minutes off the clock. With those two possessions. It's even worse if the first team to have the ball gets in field goal range. That's not the problem with overtime. The problem with overtime is that the rules are stupid.
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 19, 2022 16:44:09 GMT
Putting time on the clock doesn't get rid of the problem of teams playing too safe and using as much time as they can when they have the ball in overtime. You get 2 possessions with 5 -7 safe plays each, That's between 6-8 minutes off the clock. With those two possessions. It's even worse if the first team to have the ball gets in field goal range. That's not the problem with overtime. The problem with overtime is that the rules are stupid. They are no more stupid than any other rule in football.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 19, 2022 17:43:18 GMT
That's not the problem with overtime. The problem with overtime is that the rules are stupid. They are no more stupid than any other rule in football. No. They're far dumber. What a weird stance. Do you hate the sport or love the overtime rules?
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 20, 2022 2:20:36 GMT
They are no more stupid than any other rule in football. No. They're far dumber. What a weird stance. Do you hate the sport or love the overtime rules? Neither. But sometimes we forget how confusing the rules of the game are as we are accustomed to them. I've had to explain the rules to multiple people in the past. It is in no way a simple straightforward game.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 20, 2022 3:19:26 GMT
No. They're far dumber. What a weird stance. Do you hate the sport or love the overtime rules? Neither. But sometimes we forget how confusing the rules of the game are as we are accustomed to them. I've had to explain the rules to multiple people in the past. It is in no way a simple straightforward game. Except that a lot of the basic rules of the game make sense in their context. The ones that don't, we point put and say they should fix. I'm really trying to follow the thread of what you're saying, but from the weird clock thing on I don't think it makes a lot of sense.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Oct 20, 2022 3:31:39 GMT
Players who whine & show-up refs. Enough. Stop. If everyone is getting called for rules your PA agreed on, then it's a wash.
Yeah... I know you've been in the outfield watching your ace throw a 2 hit 7 inning shutout, yet that's a f'ing strike on you too.. if you can believe it.
LeBron's cartoon network grimacing -every- single whistle on him. Because the 15 going in his favour all night isn't enough.
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 21, 2022 13:59:04 GMT
Here's another - the completely disposable nature of most aspects of sports media. Endless recaps, takeaways, previews, and pieces of analysis that'll age like milk everywhere you turn. Just now I got a notification on my phone from the NBA app inviting me to read "5 Takeaways From Bucks-76ers", featuring such seismic storylines as "Holiday's epic defense" and "Harden's mid-range flow" among others. I know they're doing their best to convince me that game #2 of the regular season is important or telling of anything significant, but they couldn't pay me to look at that article.
Why? Because none of it will matter two days from now. It's not just the NBA, of course - you see it with all sports. It's junk you might at best skim through once before tossing it aside onto a figurative digital scrap heap, never to be seen or even remembered again. Imagine how it feels to write that stuff - knowing it won't leave a trace of any lasting footprint in any way whatsoever; it's all meant to be scrolled through on someone's phone, vaguely consumed, and forgotten immediately.
Give me a long read; a painstakingly-researched and insightful piece of real sports journalism, not the click-fodder we've become accustomed to nowadays.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Oct 21, 2022 14:05:48 GMT
Here's another - the completely disposable nature of most aspects of sports media. Endless recaps, takeaways, previews, and pieces of analysis that'll age like milk everywhere you turn. Just now I got a notification on my phone from the NBA app inviting me to read "5 Takeaways From Bucks-76ers", featuring such seismic storylines as "Holiday's epic defense" and "Harden's mid-range flow" among others. I know they're doing their best to convince me that game #2 of the regular season is important or telling of anything significant, but they couldn't pay me to look at that article. Why? Because none of it will matter two days from now. It's not just the NBA, of course - you see it with all sports. It's junk you might at best skim through once before tossing it aside onto a figurative digital scrap heap, never to be seen or even remembered again. Imagine how it feels to write that stuff - knowing it won't leave a trace of any lasting footprint in any way whatsoever; it's all meant to be scrolled through on someone's phone, vaguely consumed, and forgotten immediately. Give me a long read; a painstakingly-researched and insightful piece of real sports journalism, not the click-fodder we've become accustomed to nowadays. I think what you describe only works for the NFL (and maybe college football too) do to the comparatively limited number of games that are generally only played weekly. MLB, NBA, and NHL? Journalists need to chill.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 21, 2022 14:11:53 GMT
Here's another - the completely disposable nature of most aspects of sports media. Endless recaps, takeaways, previews, and pieces of analysis that'll age like milk everywhere you turn. Just now I got a notification on my phone from the NBA app inviting me to read "5 Takeaways From Bucks-76ers", featuring such seismic storylines as "Holiday's epic defense" and "Harden's mid-range flow" among others. I know they're doing their best to convince me that game #2 of the regular season is important or telling of anything significant, but they couldn't pay me to look at that article. Why? Because none of it will matter two days from now. It's not just the NBA, of course - you see it with all sports. It's junk you might at best skim through once before tossing it aside onto a figurative digital scrap heap, never to be seen or even remembered again. Imagine how it feels to write that stuff - knowing it won't leave a trace of any lasting footprint in any way whatsoever; it's all meant to be scrolled through on someone's phone, vaguely consumed, and forgotten immediately. Give me a long read; a painstakingly-researched and insightful piece of real sports journalism, not the click-fodder we've become accustomed to nowadays. What's worse is -
Some of these 'sources' ask you to pay for reading their material
I used to work with an elitist and he used to tell me - 'Well what do you think everything in life is for free!' - after I told him I didn't have a subscription to The Athletic
It's like - Nah dude - I'm not paying 99 cents for yet another subscription when I can just google the material and filter on news and get the same info
He just looked at me scowling in anger sipping on his $13.99 Starbucks Crappochino
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Post by sdm3 on Oct 21, 2022 14:24:53 GMT
Here's another - the completely disposable nature of most aspects of sports media. Endless recaps, takeaways, previews, and pieces of analysis that'll age like milk everywhere you turn. Just now I got a notification on my phone from the NBA app inviting me to read "5 Takeaways From Bucks-76ers", featuring such seismic storylines as "Holiday's epic defense" and "Harden's mid-range flow" among others. I know they're doing their best to convince me that game #2 of the regular season is important or telling of anything significant, but they couldn't pay me to look at that article. Why? Because none of it will matter two days from now. It's not just the NBA, of course - you see it with all sports. It's junk you might at best skim through once before tossing it aside onto a figurative digital scrap heap, never to be seen or even remembered again. Imagine how it feels to write that stuff - knowing it won't leave a trace of any lasting footprint in any way whatsoever; it's all meant to be scrolled through on someone's phone, vaguely consumed, and forgotten immediately. Give me a long read; a painstakingly-researched and insightful piece of real sports journalism, not the click-fodder we've become accustomed to nowadays. I think what you describe only works for the NFL (and maybe college football too) do to the comparatively limited number of games that are generally only played weekly. MLB, NBA, and NHL? Journalists need to chill. The NFL isn't immune from this criticism because the coverage can be overwhelming. That said, each game does matter in the grand scheme of things - sure, you're not necessarily going to miss the playoffs if you lay an egg early on but each month is a snapshot of where a team is in the journey of that season. What's working? What's not? What do they need to improve, and 3 months later, did they? You can say that about the NBA for example, but I don't agree. The NBA regular season is just constant ebbs and flows with elite teams sleepwalking into the playoffs where they suddenly switch it on despite being questioned by the media roughly 14 times over the course of the season whenever they lost 2 games in a row. So, to tie into my actual point, what does that "are the [insert team] in trouble?" piece in November or October really matter? Of course, that's not to say this stuff shouldn't be reported on. It's sports. Some people do want to read about it. I just don't see why the media attempts to frame "Bucks vs Sixers, October 20th" and everything else as a significant piece of a grand mosaic - because it's not.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Oct 21, 2022 14:30:29 GMT
I think what you describe only works for the NFL (and maybe college football too) do to the comparatively limited number of games that are generally only played weekly. MLB, NBA, and NHL? Journalists need to chill. The NFL isn't immune from this criticism because the coverage can be overwhelming. That said, each game does matter in the grand scheme of things - sure, you're not necessarily going to miss the playoffs if you lay an egg early on but each month is a snapshot of where a team is in the journey of that season. What's working? What's not? What do they need to improve, and 3 months later, did they? You can say that about the NBA for example, but I don't agree. The NBA regular season is just constant ebbs and flows with elite teams sleepwalking into the playoffs where they suddenly switch it on despite being questioned by the media roughly 14 times over the course of the season whenever they lost 2 games in a row. So, to tie into my actual point, what does that "are the [insert team] in trouble?" piece in November or October really matter? Of course, that's not to say this stuff shouldn't be reported on. It's sports. Some people do want to read about it. I just don't see why the media attempts to frame "Bucks vs Sixers, October 20th" and everything else as a significant piece of a grand mosaic - because it's not. That was pretty much Jo-Jo's attitude last night
I don't blame him...
See you in May when it counts....
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