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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 26, 2022 15:04:09 GMT
I don't like the idea of doing a pilot that is never meant to be shown to a TV audience, and never meant to be preserved, but by some twist of fate this one survived so that people sixty years later can chuckle at how primitive it is. I say do one pilot for the bigwigs to watch, and then reshoots on scenes that need to be tweaked. I would also shoot as much alternative footage as possible, given budget limitations, of course.
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Post by Catman on Dec 26, 2022 15:29:29 GMT
Interesting.
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 26, 2022 17:26:40 GMT
They reshot the pilot to tone down The Doctor's rudeness and offensiveness, which I think was a mistake. He was supposed to by a mysterious and grumpy old man (William Hartnell, 55, playing older) and that's what Hartnell and the writers went for. The BBC were worried they had gone too far with the concept so reshot. However, I gotta admit, they may have been right because this next fall ushers in the show's 40th season over 60 years (1963 to 2023).
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 26, 2022 17:32:22 GMT
They reshot the pilot to tone down The Doctor's rudeness and offensiveness, which I think was a mistake. He was supposed to by a mysterious and grumpy old man (William Hartnell, 55, playing older) and that's what Hartnell and the writers went for. The BBC were worried they had gone too far with the concept so reshot. However, I gotta admit, they may have been right because this next fall ushers in the show's 40th season over 60 years (1963 to 2023). Yeah, if they make a character too rude, audiences will have enough of it eventually and turn it off. One of the things that I thought made the early Dr. Who with Hartnell interesting is that although the Doctor is ostensibly a good guy you don't know where he's from or what his full agenda is, which made him more mysterious. |
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Post by alpha128 on Dec 26, 2022 18:46:20 GMT
As Catman said, "Interesting". I also find it interesting that other well known '60s science fiction shows Lost in Space and Star Trek had unaired pilots. In the case of LiS, the unaired pilot was "No Place to Hide". The pilot was chopped up and incorporated into the first five episodes. Perhaps not coincidentally, these are among the best episodes of the series. Similarly, the ST:TOS unaired pilot "The Cage" was incorporated into the first season two-parter "The Menagerie". The original uncut version was not aired on TV until 1988, when it was used as a filler episode for Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987) due to a writers' strike. Both unaired pilots are included in the DVD releases of the respective series: LiS Season 1 and ST:TOS Season 3. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Dec 26, 2022 18:51:05 GMT
As Catman said, "Interesting". I also find it interesting that other well known '60s science fiction shows Lost in Space and Star Trek had unaired pilots. In the case of LiS, the unaired pilot was "No Place to Hide". The pilot was chopped up and incorporated into the first five episodes. Perhaps not coincidentally, these are among the best episodes of the series. Similarly, the ST:TOS unaired pilot "The Cage" was incorporated into the first season two-parter "The Menagerie". The original uncut version was not aired on TV until 1988, when it was used as a filler episode for Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987) due to a writers' strike. Both unaired pilots are included in the DVD releases of the respective series: LiS Season 1 and ST:TOS Season 3. I knew about "The Cage," but until now I didn't know that Lost in Space had an unaired pilot too. |
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Post by alpha128 on Dec 26, 2022 19:09:23 GMT
I knew about "The Cage," but until now I didn't know that Lost in Space had an unaired pilot too. It may be hard to believe considering what the show became later on, but the original pilot included neither Dr. Smith nor The Robot. The focus was originally going to be the Robinson family struggling to survive. According to IMDb trivia, network executives wanted an antagonist, so Dr. Smith was added. Apparently The Robot was added to be more of a physical threat. I like the early episodes of LiS Season 1, when Smith was a truly evil, "black hat" villain. But I understand why Jonathan Harris turned Smith into a comedic villain, assuming (probably correctly) his original characterization would not have a long life expectancy. |
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