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Post by general313 on Jun 2, 2017 23:46:50 GMT
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 4, 2017 11:33:36 GMT
It was a phenomenon and made a lot of money for certain. I think some people watched it like a train wreck though, not wanting to watch just not turning away. I thought it was a really good movie except for the foul language. I think they have the "mature audience" warning backwards. Mature audiences don't need to hear that sort of language. Immature audiences go for that sort of thing. If you can get an edited for television version that would be a really great movie. I have the complete boxed set The Exorcist The Exorcist II The Heretic The Exorcist III The Exorcist the Beginning (2004) Dominion prequel to the Exorcist (2005) I and III are the best, but none of them are edited for television. I would have paid extra for that. I like some of Richard Burton's work especially 1984 (The movie based on the "futuristic" book titled "1984" by George Orwell in 1949, the movie released in 1984). The 4th and 5th Exorcist movies are the same movie, set in the same place, at the same time, with mostly the same characters. A few characters are different. Some key events are different. That is bizarre, is it not? What other movies have done that? It seems like picking over junk in a garage sale when they do that. The 4th and 5th movies were especially anti-militaristic and, perhaps not surprisingly, were not as successful. 4th and 5th are basically two versions of what the 4th was supposed to be, 5th is a rejected version, 4 was result of extensive reshoots and new director. Closest I can think to it is Superman II, and the Richard Donner cut version. The Donner Cut is a very rough approximation of how the original director planned to make it, with less comedy, a bit more faithfulness to the character (no sudden new powers), no stupid memory wiping kiss, a more understanding Lois than the whiny me me me one. Only thing is, Superman turning back time again. It was meant to feature in II, but seeing it happen again just comes off as a lazy "it was all a dream" type ending. I suppose everyone (common usage of the term) who collects DVDs has Cleopatra with Richard Burton as Marc Anthony although there are other formidable actors in other versions of that story (one with Charlton Heston as Marc Anthony another with Claude Rains as Caesar). But I was especially disappointed with Burton in Exorcist II. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Jun 4, 2017 11:52:41 GMT
4th and 5th are basically two versions of what the 4th was supposed to be, 5th is a rejected version, 4 was result of extensive reshoots and new director. Closest I can think to it is Superman II, and the Richard Donner cut version. The Donner Cut is a very rough approximation of how the original director planned to make it, with less comedy, a bit more faithfulness to the character (no sudden new powers), no stupid memory wiping kiss, a more understanding Lois than the whiny me me me one. Only thing is, Superman turning back time again. It was meant to feature in II, but seeing it happen again just comes off as a lazy "it was all a dream" type ending. I suppose everyone (common usage of the term) who collects DVDs has Cleopatra with Richard Burton as Marc Anthony although there are other formidable actors in other versions of that story (one with Charlton Heston as Marc Anthony another with Claude Rains as Caesar). But I was especially disappointed with Burton in Exorcist II. Some critics thought Exorcist 2 would be 1977's big hit. Fox thought Damnation Alley would be their SciFi hit. Seems only one Steven Spielberg predicted the success of Fox's space movie with the heavy breathing guy in black.... And what's this nonsense with Spielberg and close meetings of the third variety? |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 7, 2017 7:14:22 GMT
Tubular Bells was used in part for the soundtrack to The Exorcist. The album released at the same time has better parts than the movie used, especially from 19:40 to 24:24 on that YouTube link. I've actually always hated that "announcing the arrangement" bit, but I like the music. I just wish Oldfield had turned the vocal mic off. "If you remember the music from a movie it wasn't done right," someone said, or words to the same effect. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Jun 7, 2017 8:32:55 GMT
I've actually always hated that "announcing the arrangement" bit, but I like the music. I just wish Oldfield had turned the vocal mic off. "If you remember the music from a movie it wasn't done right," someone said, or words to the same effect That's seems a really limiting notion. It presupposed some form of "acceptable recipe" for what constitutes cinematic storytelling. Johnny Greenwood's work in "There Will Be Blood" and "The Master" - the music itself is a character present in each scene. It's beyond memorable for its own contribution. "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" in 2001. "Blue Velvet" itself. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 7, 2017 9:19:48 GMT
That's not the General MIDI distribution. And not the distribution of most digital pianos. They usually have Electric Piano before the Organ sounds. Maybe a sound library? It's from the original tubular bells. I must admit I have always preferred Ommadawn. This part of Tubular Bells sounds like A Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra Who Doesn't Know What a Real Orchestra Is.
In regards to the Exorcist movies, even the best (first) one, even in the restored 'spider walk' cut, is not as good as some (I'm looking at you, Mark Kermode) think it is. The main reason being that the 'evil' which is purportedly represented isn't really bad enough, just off-and-on repulsive, special effects style..
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Post by phludowin on Jun 7, 2017 9:26:14 GMT
"If you remember the music from a movie it wasn't done right," someone said, or words to the same effect. Rudolf Arnheim (paraphrased). But he said it long ago, when talking movies just started to get popular. He probably thought that music should not distract from the movie, and that good music would be wasted if it went unnoticed. Lots of people, especially people who know a bit about music, have criticized Arnheim for this view. But plenty of people, even in the movie business, agree that film music should not be consciously heard. My opinion: It depends on the movie. When it's a musical or a movie like Koyaanisqatsi, music is obviously important and meant to be heard. And horror movies and thrillers are a lot scarier with the right soundtrack. Psycho without violins? Unthinkable. On the other hand, drowning a movie in music is not always a good idea. I can't speak for the Exorcist however, since I've never seen the movie. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 7, 2017 11:09:49 GMT
It's from the original tubular bells. <1,2>
It's not as bad as the blissful way Homer Simpson pronounces "barbecue," and I think it is an important focus on the instrument itself. It's a call to "stop and smell the roses." As regards the music, side B of the album, which I think does not appear at all in the movie, does have an ominous quality. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 7, 2017 11:25:08 GMT
"If you remember the music from a movie it wasn't done right," someone said, or words to the same effect. Rudolf Arnheim (paraphrased). But he said it long ago, when talking movies just started to get popular. He probably thought that music should not distract from the movie, and that good music would be wasted if it went unnoticed. Lots of people, especially people who know a bit about music, have criticized Arnheim for this view. But plenty of people, even in the movie business, agree that film music should not be consciously heard. My opinion: It depends on the movie. When it's a musical or a movie like Koyaanisqatsi, music is obviously important and meant to be heard. And horror movies and thrillers are a lot scarier with the right soundtrack. Psycho without violins? Unthinkable. On the other hand, drowning a movie in music is not always a good idea. I can't speak for the Exorcist however, since I've never seen the movie. Yes, it absolutely depends on the movie. It is "a really limiting notion" otherwise as Cinemachinery also noted. Of course some exceptions are obvious, like musicals. There are other important exceptions though. As a "general" rule it has a point. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 7, 2017 13:13:27 GMT
I've actually always hated that "announcing the arrangement" bit, but I like the music. I just wish Oldfield had turned the vocal mic off. "If you remember the music from a movie it wasn't done right," someone said, or words to the same effect. Now that I definitely do not agree with. My film composition philosophy is the polar opposite of that. |
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