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Post by heeeeey on Jan 4, 2023 19:25:01 GMT
Are you aware of just how much the medical industry depends on people getting sick? If a scientist discovered a cure for every disease known to man, he would never live to tell about it. Do they let you out of the straight jacket when you are granted Internet access, or does a nurse type for you? Right, it's perfectly natural that here in the 21st century, new hospitals can't be built fast enough to keep up with the demand and all the sick people there are to fill them up, O Sane One. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 4, 2023 20:23:22 GMT
It may not be a fortune, but it's steady money. No one of integrity needs more than that. Does it not satisfy you? I’m sure it does. But what makes you think they are all so corrupt? You know zero number of scientists. You have no concept of the joy discovery brings. I didn't say all. Some scientists have gone against the paradigm, and they typically get squelched. |
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 4, 2023 20:26:52 GMT
No one of integrity needs more than that. Does it not satisfy you? I’m sure it does. But what makes you think they are all so corrupt? You know zero number of scientists. You have no concept of the joy discovery brings. I didn't say all. Some scientists have gone against the paradigm, and they typically get squelched. And then, when they are right, their peers come around to seeing that their models are correct. It might take a couple decades, but that's what happens. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 4, 2023 20:29:02 GMT
I didn't say all. Some scientists have gone against the paradigm, and they typically get squelched. And then, when they are right, their peers come around to seeing that their models are correct. It might take a couple decades, but that's what happens. It's the "couple of decades" part that I am in opposition to. They need to do it a lot sooner than that.  |
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 4, 2023 20:29:07 GMT
No one of integrity needs more than that. Does it not satisfy you? I’m sure it does. But what makes you think they are all so corrupt? You know zero number of scientists. You have no concept of the joy discovery brings. I didn't say all. Some scientists have gone against the paradigm, and they typically get squelched. You agreed. In general means most and that’s a lie. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 4, 2023 20:32:47 GMT
And then, when they are right, their peers come around to seeing that their models are correct. It might take a couple decades, but that's what happens. It's the "couple of decades" part that I am in opposition to. They need to do it a lot sooner than that. That’s how it works! It’s long, hard, tedious work with often thousands working in collaboration that must be reviewed and duplicated by others before it’s even be considered variable information or technology. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 4, 2023 20:38:09 GMT
It's the "couple of decades" part that I am in opposition to. They need to do it a lot sooner than that. That’s how it works! It’s long, hard, tedious work with often thousands working in collaboration that must be reviewed and duplicated by others before it’s even be considered variable information or technology. No, that's how it works because that's how TPTB want it to work. Last several years you hear a lot about free and clean energy. That could have been done in the 1800's if it had been allowed. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 4, 2023 20:52:39 GMT
That’s how it works! It’s long, hard, tedious work with often thousands working in collaboration that must be reviewed and duplicated by others before it’s even be considered variable information or technology. No, that's how it works because that's how TPTB want it to work. Last several years you hear a lot about free and clean energy. That could have been done in the 1800's if it had been allowed. Well, if you go by the Weekly World News, I guess. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 4, 2023 20:55:08 GMT
No, that's how it works because that's how TPTB want it to work. Last several years you hear a lot about free and clean energy. That could have been done in the 1800's if it had been allowed. Well, if you go by the Weekly World News, I guess.  |
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Post by Catman on Jan 4, 2023 22:26:31 GMT
Well, if you go by the Weekly World News, I guess. Catman lived next to Batboy growing up. Nice kid, but you couldn't leave him alone with your pets. |
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 5, 2023 11:35:36 GMT
This is arrogant slander: Scientists in general agree with whoever funds them. 1. How does she know? 2. To say scientists whore themselves out, pander and lie is a gross mischaracterization and bigotry. If you were a scientist on my payroll, you would find whatever conclusion I told you to find, or you would have to find employment elsewhere. Okay. The fact that you would be willing to corrupt scientists, doesn't mean everyone else will do the same. |
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 5, 2023 11:42:53 GMT
No one of integrity needs more than that. Does it not satisfy you? I’m sure it does. But what makes you think they are all so corrupt? You know zero number of scientists. You have no concept of the joy discovery brings. I didn't say all. Some scientists have gone against the paradigm, and they typically get squelched. Doing paradigm shifts is supposed to hard and requires an extraordinary amount of evidence Darwin, Alfred Wegener, Georges Lemaître, all proposed hypothesis against the paradigm and now their hypothesis are all accepted. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 5, 2023 15:39:01 GMT
If you were a scientist on my payroll, you would find whatever conclusion I told you to find, or you would have to find employment elsewhere. Okay. The fact that you would be willing to corrupt scientists, doesn't mean everyone else will do the same. I would be willing to corrupt scientists. That's not what I wrote, and you know it. |
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Post by heeeeey on Jan 5, 2023 16:07:42 GMT
It's the "couple of decades" part that I am in opposition to. They need to do it a lot sooner than that. That’s how it works! It’s long, hard, tedious work with often thousands working in collaboration that must be reviewed and duplicated by others before it’s even be considered variable information or technology. Gee, you'd think they'd have found a cure for something by now. Remember all the money Jerry Lewis raised year after year for decades? Maybe they used it to build more hospitals. |
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 5, 2023 16:10:16 GMT
Okay. The fact that you would be willing to corrupt scientists, doesn't mean everyone else will do the same. I would be willing to corrupt scientists. That's not what I wrote, and you know it. If you pay a scientist to find the conclusion you want instead of the conclusion that the evidence gives, that would similar to bribery or corruption. I mean, Big Tobacco and Big Oil did the same. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 5, 2023 16:14:19 GMT
I would be willing to corrupt scientists. That's not what I wrote, and you know it. If you pay a scientist to find the conclusion you want instead of the conclusion that the evidence gives, that would similar to bribery or corruption. I mean, Big Tobacco and Big Oil did the same. But I'm not the one who's doing it, nor did I say I was willing to do it. I was calling out the ones who are doing it. |
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 5, 2023 16:22:02 GMT
If you pay a scientist to find the conclusion you want instead of the conclusion that the evidence gives, that would similar to bribery or corruption. I mean, Big Tobacco and Big Oil did the same. But I'm not the one who's doing it, nor did I say I was willing to do it. I was calling out the ones who are doing it. You said in plain English that scientists on your payroll would be fired if they didn't give you the results you wanted. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 5, 2023 16:28:55 GMT
But I'm not the one who's doing it, nor did I say I was willing to do it. I was calling out the ones who are doing it. You said in plain English that scientists on your payroll would be fired if they didn't give you the results you wanted. Swine as smart as you pretend to be should know what the word "hypothetical" means. |
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 5, 2023 16:34:04 GMT
You said in plain English that scientists on your payroll would be fired if they didn't give you the results you wanted. Swine as smart as you pretend to be should know what the word "hypothetical" means. You did not use that word in your post nor did you make any effort to communicate anything other than what you would do if you were running things. Basically, you really suck at communicating ideas. |
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 5, 2023 16:43:54 GMT
If you pay a scientist to find the conclusion you want instead of the conclusion that the evidence gives, that would similar to bribery or corruption. I mean, Big Tobacco and Big Oil did the same. But I'm not the one who's doing it, nor did I say I was willing to do it. I was calling out the ones who are doing it. You said you would do the same if you had scientists on you're payroll. |
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