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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 26, 2023 13:24:51 GMT
Then that's on those parents for being too super-soft and not realizing that it's really just that easy.
Not complaining the way they are now. That didn't start till 2016 and the MAGAs came to power.
The movie never would've been that big a success, because the story as it was originally just doesn't stand out anymore with all the other Young Adult adventures around.
Hoping for a bigger return doesn't mean that they still didn't make money. They did. Answer the Call actually got good reviews from those who watched it, because they didn't buy into the misogynistic propaganda constantly attacking the movie. Comparable or better than Afterlife which was too much gutless fanservice. Feig changed his mind obviously, while Reitman didn't.
The marketing made it clear it had nothing to do with the Toy Story series and wouldn't have the Toy Story characters, that turned off prospective viewers.
People who say it did comment positively. All the negative stuff said about the movie from those who never saw it turned out to be fake news. Streaming numbers are quite good.
It's just Netflix canceling a good thing, as they always do.
2 Million raised by cultists who aren't even going to read the comic but just want to support a Grifter isn't impressive, it's just sad.
Juked Stats, Sensationalism, usual stuff.
Oh, I deleted the comments because they were just that disgusting.
If they indulge in using Boogeyman words like "Woke", "Virtue Signaling", "Forced Diversity" and "Checking a Bod", that automatically makes them Grifters.
The only Pro-Woke folks I know of (as in, they're decent people) are Kavernacle and TurfNation. There's the actual good reviewers too like Chris Stuckmann and Jeremy Jahns. Sometimes Cosmonaut Variety Hour and New Rockstars.
If they indulge in Grifting, that's all I need to know.
You should, you'll understand a whole lot better after.
The Grifters and their Cultists made it clear they have no intention of peaceful co-existence, so there's no point in being conciliatory. I learned my lesson from trying to be patient with OT Star Wars fans.
I have. It doesn't even bother naming who their enemy is, which shows how Right Wing it is.
A parent who doesn't want their toddler to be introduced to mature concepts related to gender identity and sexual preferences doesn't mean they are being too super-soft, they just would rather their child learn other things like how to count, how to spell, and how to write, sharing, and listening first and learn about more mature things when they get older. People were arguing for and against woke in culture before the year of 2016. The movie could have been a success had it been of good quality. Stories that been retold over and over still resonate with people and find success, look at the numerous variations of Dickens' A Christmas Carol. Duvernay's A Wrinkle in Time just wasn't a very good movie to both critics and audiences alike because they found it to be a poor product. I am not arguing Paul Feig's Ghostbusters didn't make any money in 2016, I am saying it fell short of financial hope and expectation, what it made in profit is nothing to gloat about. The movie got good reviews, but general movie goers didn't like it, and that's why it was far and away a crowd-pleasing success. And Paul Feig still would like to make a sequel (but good luck with that). And? Buzz Lightyear is still recognizably a Toy Story character, one so popular they even made an animated series in the early 2000's that lasted a while. Toy Story is a brand that still resonates with people, the last iteration of the franchise proper came out a few years ago and made solid profit. Clearly not enough positive comments were made given the dismal box office profit. Much of the negative things said about it were actually by people who saw it, hence low audience scores. The streaming numbers are, once again, nothing to brag about. I wouldn't personally describe Dead End: Paranormal Park as a good product. The art style isn't appealing, the animation quality isn't very good, the writing is pretty poor, and the voice acting isn't anything to write home about other than Emily Osment. It's a more agenda driven and charmless version of Disney's Gravity Falls series. I am not surprised Netflix decided not to renew its contract, because the audience is too small to ensure longstanding success. Based on the number of reviews of the book, those that bought it to support it did in fact read it, and most enjoyed it. Not a solid enough answer, you will need to provide a link or two that proves your claim right. Okay, but you didn't tell us what your YouTube channel name is, which is what I was asking for. No, it doesn't. Speaking of you still haven't provided any evidence of these people being scam artists. I was asking if there are any pro-woke media commenters that you would describe as being a grifter, but it seems that if you are pro-woke you cannot qualify as a grifter (which doesn't sound realistic because anyone can take anything and play pretend for personal gain, also true regarding your claim about being pro-woke means you are a decent person as there are woke individuals who are not good people). You haven't even provided evidence of grifting. I know and recognize who Alex Jones and Jordan Petersen are and what they're all about, and as I have stated their content just doesn't interest me very much so I don't spend time with them. Negative generalizations don't do the world any good, because we are all human there will be times when we will end agreeing on certain issues and disagreeing with others. Anyone who says they are pro or anti-woke is eventually going to disagree with what their side says about so-and-so and you might find yourself getting cancelled for it in the process. As I shall state again - that you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service and the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing is quite comical. I do find it puzzling that you would see Top Gun: Maverick as you write it off as right wing and military propaganda for very on-the-surface reasons. It is being super-soft if they think that if a kid sees a same-sex couple, it will destroy their minds.
Nope, not like today where there are Grifters trying to exploit the "Anti-Wokes" for money. That didn't start up till around 2016.
It would have been a mediocre movie even at best, because the inherent story has been copied so much over the decades it doesn't stand out anymore.
It made enough money, it got decent reviews and the decent people who went to see it didn't have anything important to complain about. Feig simply changed his mind while Reitman didn't.
Toy Story 4 made profit, it brought back the classic characters. Lightyear didn't, it's Buzz wasn't the same Buzz in the Toy Story movies. That's why people were complaining about Chris Evans voicing him and not Tim Allen. It wasn't enough connection to bring in an audience.
No, the low audience scores are from the people who didn't see it and just got information second hand. They were still mad about the "Homosexual Content" when there is none actually in the movie.
By that logic, Rick and Morty isn't good product.
The reviews aren't from actually reading the comic, they just give it a glance and write positive things because they're just that dedicated to Rippa.
Schlock Jocks, I haven't used it in a while though.
Yes it does. It's no different from how Senator McCarthy kept using "Un-American" or "Communist" against anyone he disliked. Anyone who uses those terms is no different.
Those two channels I listed don't have a lot of Subs and don't use their channel to advertise things. And they don't use Boogeyman words.
Exploiting Outrage Culture for subs, clicks and easy $$$. It's like Nerdrotic continually bringing up Brie Larson (even in relation to Wakanda Forever) because he knows certain folks will click just to hear the rant.
They're the blueprint for these others.
The Grifters have made it clear they're unwilling to meet anyone partway who aren't scared of things that qualify as "Woke", until that happens there's no point in trying to be conciliatory. Star Wars fans taught me that.
If it glorifies the military and shows 0 problems with it, then it's Right Wing Propaganda. Compare Top Gun to something like "First Blood" and you'll get it.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 26, 2023 14:25:34 GMT
Straight people: YoU'rE fOrCiNg GaYnEsS oN kIdS. Also straight people:
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 27, 2023 0:52:51 GMT
Straight people: YoU'rE fOrCiNg GaYnEsS oN kIdS. Also straight people: “Oh, that is disgusting.” - Ham, ‘Toy Story’ Seriously, where do they even sell those?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 27, 2023 6:04:00 GMT
Probably not at four, and definitely not younger than that. And the question then becomes about how exactly the parent explains it as. And if the parent can explain that, then they can also easily say "Sometimes a Man is with another Man and a Lady is with another Lady". Easy.
Not going to destroy the kids minds.
Depends on situation and parent, not a simple thing. The parent and how they explain makes the difference, as not all share the same parenting styles.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 27, 2023 7:27:51 GMT
A parent who doesn't want their toddler to be introduced to mature concepts related to gender identity and sexual preferences doesn't mean they are being too super-soft, they just would rather their child learn other things like how to count, how to spell, and how to write, sharing, and listening first and learn about more mature things when they get older. People were arguing for and against woke in culture before the year of 2016. The movie could have been a success had it been of good quality. Stories that been retold over and over still resonate with people and find success, look at the numerous variations of Dickens' A Christmas Carol. Duvernay's A Wrinkle in Time just wasn't a very good movie to both critics and audiences alike because they found it to be a poor product. I am not arguing Paul Feig's Ghostbusters didn't make any money in 2016, I am saying it fell short of financial hope and expectation, what it made in profit is nothing to gloat about. The movie got good reviews, but general movie goers didn't like it, and that's why it was far and away a crowd-pleasing success. And Paul Feig still would like to make a sequel (but good luck with that). And? Buzz Lightyear is still recognizably a Toy Story character, one so popular they even made an animated series in the early 2000's that lasted a while. Toy Story is a brand that still resonates with people, the last iteration of the franchise proper came out a few years ago and made solid profit. Clearly not enough positive comments were made given the dismal box office profit. Much of the negative things said about it were actually by people who saw it, hence low audience scores. The streaming numbers are, once again, nothing to brag about. I wouldn't personally describe Dead End: Paranormal Park as a good product. The art style isn't appealing, the animation quality isn't very good, the writing is pretty poor, and the voice acting isn't anything to write home about other than Emily Osment. It's a more agenda driven and charmless version of Disney's Gravity Falls series. I am not surprised Netflix decided not to renew its contract, because the audience is too small to ensure longstanding success. Based on the number of reviews of the book, those that bought it to support it did in fact read it, and most enjoyed it. Not a solid enough answer, you will need to provide a link or two that proves your claim right. Okay, but you didn't tell us what your YouTube channel name is, which is what I was asking for. No, it doesn't. Speaking of you still haven't provided any evidence of these people being scam artists. I was asking if there are any pro-woke media commenters that you would describe as being a grifter, but it seems that if you are pro-woke you cannot qualify as a grifter (which doesn't sound realistic because anyone can take anything and play pretend for personal gain, also true regarding your claim about being pro-woke means you are a decent person as there are woke individuals who are not good people). You haven't even provided evidence of grifting. I know and recognize who Alex Jones and Jordan Petersen are and what they're all about, and as I have stated their content just doesn't interest me very much so I don't spend time with them. Negative generalizations don't do the world any good, because we are all human there will be times when we will end agreeing on certain issues and disagreeing with others. Anyone who says they are pro or anti-woke is eventually going to disagree with what their side says about so-and-so and you might find yourself getting cancelled for it in the process. As I shall state again - that you appear to have the inability to differentiate between the portrayal of people in service and the promotion of the service and the conclusion that if it is military based it must be right wing is quite comical. I do find it puzzling that you would see Top Gun: Maverick as you write it off as right wing and military propaganda for very on-the-surface reasons. It is being super-soft if they think that if a kid sees a same-sex couple, it will destroy their minds.
Nope, not like today where there are Grifters trying to exploit the "Anti-Wokes" for money. That didn't start up till around 2016.
It would have been a mediocre movie even at best, because the inherent story has been copied so much over the decades it doesn't stand out anymore.
It made enough money, it got decent reviews and the decent people who went to see it didn't have anything important to complain about. Feig simply changed his mind while Reitman didn't.
Toy Story 4 made profit, it brought back the classic characters. Lightyear didn't, it's Buzz wasn't the same Buzz in the Toy Story movies. That's why people were complaining about Chris Evans voicing him and not Tim Allen. It wasn't enough connection to bring in an audience.
No, the low audience scores are from the people who didn't see it and just got information second hand. They were still mad about the "Homosexual Content" when there is none actually in the movie.
By that logic, Rick and Morty isn't good product.
The reviews aren't from actually reading the comic, they just give it a glance and write positive things because they're just that dedicated to Rippa.
Schlock Jocks, I haven't used it in a while though.
Yes it does. It's no different from how Senator McCarthy kept using "Un-American" or "Communist" against anyone he disliked. Anyone who uses those terms is no different.
Those two channels I listed don't have a lot of Subs and don't use their channel to advertise things. And they don't use Boogeyman words.
Exploiting Outrage Culture for subs, clicks and easy $$$. It's like Nerdrotic continually bringing up Brie Larson (even in relation to Wakanda Forever) because he knows certain folks will click just to hear the rant.
They're the blueprint for these others.
The Grifters have made it clear they're unwilling to meet anyone partway who aren't scared of things that qualify as "Woke", until that happens there's no point in trying to be conciliatory. Star Wars fans taught me that.
If it glorifies the military and shows 0 problems with it, then it's Right Wing Propaganda. Compare Top Gun to something like "First Blood" and you'll get it.
Not making the argument it would destroy their minds, I am making the argument that they are too young to fully comprehend the idea of romance in general and gender identity at the age of four and younger. Most four-year-olds don't even know why the sky is blue and think being a superhero is actual, possible career. A story being retold and having had elements of it being borrowed in other stories is irrelevant as long as the filmmakers are able to make the adaptation engaging and entertaining, Ava Duvernay and company were unsuccessful in doing either. It didn't make enough money, it fell short on profit, and the movie was not a crowd pleaser as critics and audiences were split on the product. Paul Feig has been wanting to make a sequel since it came out in 2016, but it's not his call to make - it's Sony. They greenlit Ghostbuster: Afterlife which cost a lot less than the 2016 reboot and was enough of success to warrant a continuation. Also, Jason Reitman isn't directing the sequel, it's going to be Gil Kenan who co-wrote Afterlife. Because of the relevancy of the Toy Story brand, Lightyear should've been an easy billion-dollar earner based on character recognition and the amount of advertising Disney had for it alone as well as mostly positive reviews, but apparently not the case based on the general "meh" reception according to audience generated rating sites like IMDb Prime and its lackluster box office. I can't imagine Chris Evans' "those people are idiots" and "they will die off like dinosaurs" did the movie any favors, either. How do you know? Plenty of people saw the movie and were not impressed by it. There is homosexual content in the movie, but it was the least of its issues, the movie was a nonsensical mess with rather dull and bland characters and all-over-the-place humor and visuals. If the best praise for just the idea of the inclusivity of homosexual romance and nothing else then it doesn't suggest that it is really a good product, because to be honest I have not heard anyone praise it beyond the inclusion of a gay teen romance, and even then, the people praising it can't even remember the name of the kid the Ethan Clade character was into. Rick and Morty isn't a good product. (It has not been for a while) I am not sure what parts of the internet you regularly visit, but on my usual routes (YouTube being one of them) I have come across dozens of reviews from people who have read the whole book and discuss it in length, and it isn't all in praise of it. The article you linked to doesn't exactly assist your counterargument to my point from earlier, as it still points to dwindling sales for comic books published in the United States and the rise in sales figures for manga, if anything is calls into question a claim of Demon Slayer doing selling X amount of copies,but provides no definitive answer if it is true or not. I see only two channels for "Schlock Jocks" one belonging to a ShadowSonic2 and a shockjocks5180 Both have not uploaded content in two years. That doesn't make it the right thing to do. Okay. That is an observation with a conclusion drawn by opinion, not evidence of the individual admitting to grifting. It would be different if you had them say such a thing on camera or elsewhere online. I don't care about either Jones or Petersen, because as I have stated numerous times already, their content doesn't interest me. You do not know how well a conversation will be with a person, you may get into a heated argument, or you may have a fine conversation despite your differences. Recently I talked with someone in defense of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power on Twitter and ended up having a fair and okay conversation when it looked like they were sort of baiting critics with their initial post, what set the stage well was the recognition of the distinction between progressivism and woke. For experiment, I will play along with you for a minute - despite being military propaganda and therefore being right wing, would you say it is a good movie, or no, and for what other reasons?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 27, 2023 7:29:01 GMT
Straight people: YoU'rE fOrCiNg GaYnEsS oN kIdS. Also straight people: Is that even real? The text for "Future" and "Girl" look a bit like Photoshop.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 27, 2023 14:11:00 GMT
And if the parent can explain that, then they can also easily say "Sometimes a Man is with another Man and a Lady is with another Lady". Easy.
Not going to destroy the kids minds.
Depends on situation and parent, not a simple thing. The parent and how they explain makes the difference, as not all share the same parenting styles. Not a simply thing, but still part of being a parent, and it still won't destroy the kids minds.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 27, 2023 14:21:48 GMT
It is being super-soft if they think that if a kid sees a same-sex couple, it will destroy their minds.
Nope, not like today where there are Grifters trying to exploit the "Anti-Wokes" for money. That didn't start up till around 2016.
It would have been a mediocre movie even at best, because the inherent story has been copied so much over the decades it doesn't stand out anymore.
It made enough money, it got decent reviews and the decent people who went to see it didn't have anything important to complain about. Feig simply changed his mind while Reitman didn't.
Toy Story 4 made profit, it brought back the classic characters. Lightyear didn't, it's Buzz wasn't the same Buzz in the Toy Story movies. That's why people were complaining about Chris Evans voicing him and not Tim Allen. It wasn't enough connection to bring in an audience.
No, the low audience scores are from the people who didn't see it and just got information second hand. They were still mad about the "Homosexual Content" when there is none actually in the movie.
By that logic, Rick and Morty isn't good product.
The reviews aren't from actually reading the comic, they just give it a glance and write positive things because they're just that dedicated to Rippa.
Schlock Jocks, I haven't used it in a while though.
Yes it does. It's no different from how Senator McCarthy kept using "Un-American" or "Communist" against anyone he disliked. Anyone who uses those terms is no different.
Those two channels I listed don't have a lot of Subs and don't use their channel to advertise things. And they don't use Boogeyman words.
Exploiting Outrage Culture for subs, clicks and easy $$$. It's like Nerdrotic continually bringing up Brie Larson (even in relation to Wakanda Forever) because he knows certain folks will click just to hear the rant.
They're the blueprint for these others.
The Grifters have made it clear they're unwilling to meet anyone partway who aren't scared of things that qualify as "Woke", until that happens there's no point in trying to be conciliatory. Star Wars fans taught me that.
If it glorifies the military and shows 0 problems with it, then it's Right Wing Propaganda. Compare Top Gun to something like "First Blood" and you'll get it.
Not making the argument it would destroy their minds, I am making the argument that they are too young to fully comprehend the idea of romance in general and gender identity at the age of four and younger. Most four-year-olds don't even know why the sky is blue and think being a superhero is actual, possible career. A story being retold and having had elements of it being borrowed in other stories is irrelevant as long as the filmmakers are able to make the adaptation engaging and entertaining, Ava Duvernay and company were unsuccessful in doing either. It didn't make enough money, it fell short on profit, and the movie was not a crowd pleaser as critics and audiences were split on the product. Paul Feig has been wanting to make a sequel since it came out in 2016, but it's not his call to make - it's Sony. They greenlit Ghostbuster: Afterlife which cost a lot less than the 2016 reboot and was enough of success to warrant a continuation. Also, Jason Reitman isn't directing the sequel, it's going to be Gil Kenan who co-wrote Afterlife. Because of the relevancy of the Toy Story brand, Lightyear should've been an easy billion-dollar earner based on character recognition and the amount of advertising Disney had for it alone as well as mostly positive reviews, but apparently not the case based on the general "meh" reception according to audience generated rating sites like IMDb Prime and its lackluster box office. I can't imagine Chris Evans' "those people are idiots" and "they will die off like dinosaurs" did the movie any favors, either. How do you know? Plenty of people saw the movie and were not impressed by it. There is homosexual content in the movie, but it was the least of its issues, the movie was a nonsensical mess with rather dull and bland characters and all-over-the-place humor and visuals. If the best praise for just the idea of the inclusivity of homosexual romance and nothing else then it doesn't suggest that it is really a good product, because to be honest I have not heard anyone praise it beyond the inclusion of a gay teen romance, and even then, the people praising it can't even remember the name of the kid the Ethan Clade character was into. Rick and Morty isn't a good product. (It has not been for a while) I am not sure what parts of the internet you regularly visit, but on my usual routes (YouTube being one of them) I have come across dozens of reviews from people who have read the whole book and discuss it in length, and it isn't all in praise of it. The article you linked to doesn't exactly assist your counterargument to my point from earlier, as it still points to dwindling sales for comic books published in the United States and the rise in sales figures for manga, if anything is calls into question a claim of Demon Slayer doing selling X amount of copies,but provides no definitive answer if it is true or not. I see only two channels for "Schlock Jocks" one belonging to a ShadowSonic2 and a shockjocks5180 Both have not uploaded content in two years. That doesn't make it the right thing to do. Okay. That is an observation with a conclusion drawn by opinion, not evidence of the individual admitting to grifting. It would be different if you had them say such a thing on camera or elsewhere online. I don't care about either Jones or Petersen, because as I have stated numerous times already, their content doesn't interest me. You do not know how well a conversation will be with a person, you may get into a heated argument, or you may have a fine conversation despite your differences. Recently I talked with someone in defense of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power on Twitter and ended up having a fair and okay conversation when it looked like they were sort of baiting critics with their initial post, what set the stage well was the recognition of the distinction between progressivism and woke. For experiment, I will play along with you for a minute - despite being military propaganda and therefore being right wing, would you say it is a good movie, or no, and for what other reasons? Meaning that if they're told "Sometimes there's 2 Men or 2 Ladies" it won't negatively affect their mental development.
It's quite relevant, it's the same reason John Carter didn't do well either.
It wasn't the Box office Bomb it's accused of being, which means it made money. Feig changed his mind about sequels (understandable, considering the abuse the female actresses went through) while Reitman and co didn't.
The movie made it clear it wasn't about the Tim Allen Buzz, that's what kept most Toy Story fans away. And Evans didn't say anything offensive to decent people.
Because the biggest complainers are the ones who keep ranting about how "deviant" and "degenerate" it was to have a homosexual character and acted like it was his entire identity...which is a total lie if they actually saw the movie. Meaning the complainers DIDN'T see the movie.
Dozens of reviews from his Cultists who want to support him out of obedience rather than objectivity.
Which means it's not the easy "Manga easily outsells" argument.
The first one.
It's no different than how standing up to McCarthy would have been the morally correct choice. Grifters deserve the same, being told what they are.
He used an image of Brie Larson altered to look like Okoye in his Wakanda Forever "review" because he knew it would attract the misogynists. That's all but admitting he's Grifting.
They are the blueprint. Once you see them, it's easy to see them in every other Grifter.
I've had enough conversations over the last 8 years. And then the last 32 years arguing with Star Trek "fans" before that.
No I didn't like it, mainly because I have 0 interest in Tom Cruise's latest egotrip.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 28, 2023 4:29:24 GMT
Depends on situation and parent, not a simple thing. The parent and how they explain makes the difference, as not all share the same parenting styles. Not a simply thing, but still part of being a parent, and it still won't destroy the kids minds. I have not argued that it would the childrens' minds, I have argued that they, at four and younger, are too young to better understand such mature things and know what to do with the information. As mentioned before, most four-year-olds think being a superhero is a legitimate career path in life.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 28, 2023 5:02:52 GMT
Not making the argument it would destroy their minds, I am making the argument that they are too young to fully comprehend the idea of romance in general and gender identity at the age of four and younger. Most four-year-olds don't even know why the sky is blue and think being a superhero is actual, possible career. A story being retold and having had elements of it being borrowed in other stories is irrelevant as long as the filmmakers are able to make the adaptation engaging and entertaining, Ava Duvernay and company were unsuccessful in doing either. It didn't make enough money, it fell short on profit, and the movie was not a crowd pleaser as critics and audiences were split on the product. Paul Feig has been wanting to make a sequel since it came out in 2016, but it's not his call to make - it's Sony. They greenlit Ghostbuster: Afterlife which cost a lot less than the 2016 reboot and was enough of success to warrant a continuation. Also, Jason Reitman isn't directing the sequel, it's going to be Gil Kenan who co-wrote Afterlife. Because of the relevancy of the Toy Story brand, Lightyear should've been an easy billion-dollar earner based on character recognition and the amount of advertising Disney had for it alone as well as mostly positive reviews, but apparently not the case based on the general "meh" reception according to audience generated rating sites like IMDb Prime and its lackluster box office. I can't imagine Chris Evans' "those people are idiots" and "they will die off like dinosaurs" did the movie any favors, either. How do you know? Plenty of people saw the movie and were not impressed by it. There is homosexual content in the movie, but it was the least of its issues, the movie was a nonsensical mess with rather dull and bland characters and all-over-the-place humor and visuals. If the best praise for just the idea of the inclusivity of homosexual romance and nothing else then it doesn't suggest that it is really a good product, because to be honest I have not heard anyone praise it beyond the inclusion of a gay teen romance, and even then, the people praising it can't even remember the name of the kid the Ethan Clade character was into. Rick and Morty isn't a good product. (It has not been for a while) I am not sure what parts of the internet you regularly visit, but on my usual routes (YouTube being one of them) I have come across dozens of reviews from people who have read the whole book and discuss it in length, and it isn't all in praise of it. The article you linked to doesn't exactly assist your counterargument to my point from earlier, as it still points to dwindling sales for comic books published in the United States and the rise in sales figures for manga, if anything is calls into question a claim of Demon Slayer doing selling X amount of copies,but provides no definitive answer if it is true or not. I see only two channels for "Schlock Jocks" one belonging to a ShadowSonic2 and a shockjocks5180 Both have not uploaded content in two years. That doesn't make it the right thing to do. Okay. That is an observation with a conclusion drawn by opinion, not evidence of the individual admitting to grifting. It would be different if you had them say such a thing on camera or elsewhere online. I don't care about either Jones or Petersen, because as I have stated numerous times already, their content doesn't interest me. You do not know how well a conversation will be with a person, you may get into a heated argument, or you may have a fine conversation despite your differences. Recently I talked with someone in defense of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power on Twitter and ended up having a fair and okay conversation when it looked like they were sort of baiting critics with their initial post, what set the stage well was the recognition of the distinction between progressivism and woke. For experiment, I will play along with you for a minute - despite being military propaganda and therefore being right wing, would you say it is a good movie, or no, and for what other reasons? Meaning that if they're told "Sometimes there's 2 Men or 2 Ladies" it won't negatively affect their mental development.
It's quite relevant, it's the same reason John Carter didn't do well either.
It wasn't the Box office Bomb it's accused of being, which means it made money. Feig changed his mind about sequels (understandable, considering the abuse the female actresses went through) while Reitman and co didn't.
The movie made it clear it wasn't about the Tim Allen Buzz, that's what kept most Toy Story fans away. And Evans didn't say anything offensive to decent people.
Because the biggest complainers are the ones who keep ranting about how "deviant" and "degenerate" it was to have a homosexual character and acted like it was his entire identity...which is a total lie if they actually saw the movie. Meaning the complainers DIDN'T see the movie.
Dozens of reviews from his Cultists who want to support him out of obedience rather than objectivity.
Which means it's not the easy "Manga easily outsells" argument.
The first one.
It's no different than how standing up to McCarthy would have been the morally correct choice. Grifters deserve the same, being told what they are.
He used an image of Brie Larson altered to look like Okoye in his Wakanda Forever "review" because he knew it would attract the misogynists. That's all but admitting he's Grifting.
They are the blueprint. Once you see them, it's easy to see them in every other Grifter.
I've had enough conversations over the last 8 years. And then the last 32 years arguing with Star Trek "fans" before that.
No I didn't like it, mainly because I have 0 interest in Tom Cruise's latest egotrip.
It depends on how you go about it and what sparks the conversation in the first place. When I was four, a cousin of mine (adult male) was a homosexual and he and his partner would visit the house every once in a while, to see the family. They didn't express their affection for each other than presenting themselves as just being good friends to someone as young as I was because they knew I was too young to fully understand, which I would in a few years. Nobody told them to tone things down in front of me, they decided upon that themselves. I also had a music teacher in elementary school was gay as a goose, he never got into his dating life while teaching class. John Carter bombed because Disney and Andrew Stanton didn't even try with the marketing. The movie was also something of a mess which didn't help word of the mouth. I am not saying that the movie was a bomb, but it definitely wasn't the hit Sony was looking for. And once again, Paul Feig has not expressed disinterest in making a sequel to his movie, he has occasionally expressed a desire to tell more stories with the cast since the release in 2016, and even now after Sony changed trajectory for the franchise. That is only partially why it underperformed, but not the sole reason as to why - had it been a better movie it would have made more money probably. Chris Evans comment was considered pretty offensive to many Muslims, Jewish people, and Authentic Christians, and they stayed away from the movie (though, it was banned in some places already). I also would not encourage generalizing people who are pro this or against that as automatically being decent people, you can be for something progressive and still be capable of doing some wrong in the world. But many did, and didn't like it. I saw it, and it wasn't a very good movie to me for reasons I have stated. It appears you skimmed that section of my comment - I pointed out that there are reviews for Isom which do express criticism. You said it never has, but the article you presented didn't do your argument any favors other than calling into question the sales numbers for the Demon Slayer title. Okay. Bringing up McCarthy doesn't validate your argument and make what you wish to do the right and decent thing. It isn't. I have seen them, and their content just doesn't interest me. If any of these people are inspired or not by either, then fine - it's their life. I will still watch their content if it interests me. Doesn't mean you won't have a decent conversation with someone you don't really agree with. May I ask why you saw it? It doesn't sound like a movie you were going to enjoy in the first place.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 28, 2023 16:24:07 GMT
Not a simply thing, but still part of being a parent, and it still won't destroy the kids minds. I have not argued that it would the childrens' minds, I have argued that they, at four and younger, are too young to better understand such mature things and know what to do with the information. As mentioned before, most four-year-olds think being a superhero is a legitimate career path in life. If they can conceive of a superhero, then their minds can conceive "Oh, sometimes there's two grown ups at home and not just one." or "Sometimes it's two daddies or two mommies, okay" and not be destroyed by it.
Meaning showing that stuff on Blue's Clues isn't something that needs to be banned.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 28, 2023 16:32:48 GMT
Meaning that if they're told "Sometimes there's 2 Men or 2 Ladies" it won't negatively affect their mental development.
It's quite relevant, it's the same reason John Carter didn't do well either.
It wasn't the Box office Bomb it's accused of being, which means it made money. Feig changed his mind about sequels (understandable, considering the abuse the female actresses went through) while Reitman and co didn't.
The movie made it clear it wasn't about the Tim Allen Buzz, that's what kept most Toy Story fans away. And Evans didn't say anything offensive to decent people.
Because the biggest complainers are the ones who keep ranting about how "deviant" and "degenerate" it was to have a homosexual character and acted like it was his entire identity...which is a total lie if they actually saw the movie. Meaning the complainers DIDN'T see the movie.
Dozens of reviews from his Cultists who want to support him out of obedience rather than objectivity.
Which means it's not the easy "Manga easily outsells" argument.
The first one.
It's no different than how standing up to McCarthy would have been the morally correct choice. Grifters deserve the same, being told what they are.
He used an image of Brie Larson altered to look like Okoye in his Wakanda Forever "review" because he knew it would attract the misogynists. That's all but admitting he's Grifting.
They are the blueprint. Once you see them, it's easy to see them in every other Grifter.
I've had enough conversations over the last 8 years. And then the last 32 years arguing with Star Trek "fans" before that.
No I didn't like it, mainly because I have 0 interest in Tom Cruise's latest egotrip.
It depends on how you go about it and what sparks the conversation in the first place. When I was four, a cousin of mine (adult male) was a homosexual and he and his partner would visit the house every once in a while, to see the family. They didn't express their affection for each other than presenting themselves as just being good friends to someone as young as I was because they knew I was too young to fully understand, which I would in a few years. Nobody told them to tone things down in front of me, they decided upon that themselves. I also had a music teacher in elementary school was gay as a goose, he never got into his dating life while teaching class. John Carter bombed because Disney and Andrew Stanton didn't even try with the marketing. The movie was also something of a mess which didn't help word of the mouth. I am not saying that the movie was a bomb, but it definitely wasn't the hit Sony was looking for. And once again, Paul Feig has not expressed disinterest in making a sequel to his movie, he has occasionally expressed a desire to tell more stories with the cast since the release in 2016, and even now after Sony changed trajectory for the franchise. That is only partially why it underperformed, but not the sole reason as to why - had it been a better movie it would have made more money probably. Chris Evans comment was considered pretty offensive to many Muslims, Jewish people, and Authentic Christians, and they stayed away from the movie (though, it was banned in some places already). I also would not encourage generalizing people who are pro this or against that as automatically being decent people, you can be for something progressive and still be capable of doing some wrong in the world. But many did, and didn't like it. I saw it, and it wasn't a very good movie to me for reasons I have stated. It appears you skimmed that section of my comment - I pointed out that there are reviews for Isom which do express criticism. You said it never has, but the article you presented didn't do your argument any favors other than calling into question the sales numbers for the Demon Slayer title. Okay. Bringing up McCarthy doesn't validate your argument and make what you wish to do the right and decent thing. It isn't. I have seen them, and their content just doesn't interest me. If any of these people are inspired or not by either, then fine - it's their life. I will still watch their content if it interests me. Doesn't mean you won't have a decent conversation with someone you don't really agree with. May I ask why you saw it? It doesn't sound like a movie you were going to enjoy in the first place. So stuff from a past era that doesn't need to be repeated now. Today they can show their affection just like any other couple who visits does, and the kids won't care either way.
It's more that the core story of John Carter has been mined by so many others for so many decades it no longer stands out. Just like Wrinkle in Time.
So he's changed his mind again after first deciding not to do another one. Still doesn't make the first movie a failure.
It's the main reason why. Nothing he said would offend decent, tolerant people. There's nothing "Authentic" about those folks who would be that upset over something so minor.
Those that saw it, a lot of them still for whatever reason decided to label it a "degenerate" film...over something that's in it for like 5 seconds and never affects the movie at all.
Not actual criticism, no.
It calls it into question and shows that outright saying "All Manga Outsells Comics now" is a lie. Started by angry Comicgater folks.
It very much does. Grifters are following the Alex Jones stance and Jones follows his own predecessors like McCarthy.
It doesn't change that they're the blueprint.
It is. He doesn't need to say "I'm doing this to attract Larson haters", his actions speak for themselves.
I've tried, in return the Cultists try to Dox me.
Because I wasn't going to say anything about it without seeing it first.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 28, 2023 23:30:43 GMT
I have not argued that it would the childrens' minds, I have argued that they, at four and younger, are too young to better understand such mature things and know what to do with the information. As mentioned before, most four-year-olds think being a superhero is a legitimate career path in life. If they can conceive of a superhero, then their minds can conceive "Oh, sometimes there's two grown ups at home and not just one." or "Sometimes it's two daddies or two mommies, okay" and not be destroyed by it.
Meaning showing that stuff on Blue's Clues isn't something that needs to be banned.
But their idea of a superhero is as underdeveloped as their idea of what romance is. A four-year-old can say that they want to be like Batman when they grow up, but they do not take into consideration that Batman is a vigilante who works all night, has millions of dollars of gadgetry at his disposal, and years of intense training and education that no normal person can achieve with ease.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 29, 2023 0:13:26 GMT
It depends on how you go about it and what sparks the conversation in the first place. When I was four, a cousin of mine (adult male) was a homosexual and he and his partner would visit the house every once in a while, to see the family. They didn't express their affection for each other than presenting themselves as just being good friends to someone as young as I was because they knew I was too young to fully understand, which I would in a few years. Nobody told them to tone things down in front of me, they decided upon that themselves. I also had a music teacher in elementary school was gay as a goose, he never got into his dating life while teaching class. John Carter bombed because Disney and Andrew Stanton didn't even try with the marketing. The movie was also something of a mess which didn't help word of the mouth. I am not saying that the movie was a bomb, but it definitely wasn't the hit Sony was looking for. And once again, Paul Feig has not expressed disinterest in making a sequel to his movie, he has occasionally expressed a desire to tell more stories with the cast since the release in 2016, and even now after Sony changed trajectory for the franchise. That is only partially why it underperformed, but not the sole reason as to why - had it been a better movie it would have made more money probably. Chris Evans comment was considered pretty offensive to many Muslims, Jewish people, and Authentic Christians, and they stayed away from the movie (though, it was banned in some places already). I also would not encourage generalizing people who are pro this or against that as automatically being decent people, you can be for something progressive and still be capable of doing some wrong in the world. But many did, and didn't like it. I saw it, and it wasn't a very good movie to me for reasons I have stated. It appears you skimmed that section of my comment - I pointed out that there are reviews for Isom which do express criticism. You said it never has, but the article you presented didn't do your argument any favors other than calling into question the sales numbers for the Demon Slayer title. Okay. Bringing up McCarthy doesn't validate your argument and make what you wish to do the right and decent thing. It isn't. I have seen them, and their content just doesn't interest me. If any of these people are inspired or not by either, then fine - it's their life. I will still watch their content if it interests me. Doesn't mean you won't have a decent conversation with someone you don't really agree with. May I ask why you saw it? It doesn't sound like a movie you were going to enjoy in the first place. So stuff from a past era that doesn't need to be repeated now. Today they can show their affection just like any other couple who visits does, and the kids won't care either way.
It's more that the core story of John Carter has been mined by so many others for so many decades it no longer stands out. Just like Wrinkle in Time.
So he's changed his mind again after first deciding not to do another one. Still doesn't make the first movie a failure.
It's the main reason why. Nothing he said would offend decent, tolerant people. There's nothing "Authentic" about those folks who would be that upset over something so minor.
Those that saw it, a lot of them still for whatever reason decided to label it a "degenerate" film...over something that's in it for like 5 seconds and never affects the movie at all.
Not actual criticism, no.
It calls it into question and shows that outright saying "All Manga Outsells Comics now" is a lie. Started by angry Comicgater folks.
It very much does. Grifters are following the Alex Jones stance and Jones follows his own predecessors like McCarthy.
It doesn't change that they're the blueprint.
It is. He doesn't need to say "I'm doing this to attract Larson haters", his actions speak for themselves.
I've tried, in return the Cultists try to Dox me.
Because I wasn't going to say anything about it without seeing it first.
I am afraid that you are, yet again, missing my point. My family was pretty accepting of my cousin and his boyfriend and didn't mind them showing their affections for one another when they were over. My cousin and his partner both made the decision to tone down the presentation of their relationship when I was around because they knew I was too young to understand everything, and just thinking of them as two very good friends was just enough given my age (it wasn't like they were lying or anything about their personal lives, they just didn't kiss or call each other nicknames). As for my music teacher in elementary school, he didn't hide who he was from class he was pretty eccentric he just didn't talk about his love life - No need for it, it wasn't part of the lesson plan. No, John Carter bombed because the marketing for it was very dull and very bland. The average consumer wasn't able to make out what it was about, it had no recognizable stars, and they took out "of Mars" from its title which did it no favors. In fact, the best bit of marketing for the movie came from fan trailers and an initiative by fans who tried to encourage the reading of the original novels for modern youths. The movie itself was okay at best but not the awe-inspiring cinema that fans of the source material had been hoping for. Paul Feig has never said that he didn't want to make a sequel to his reboot of Ghostbusters, which I didn't call a failure, I said it lost money. It wasn't, there were other things that contributed to its dismal performance, but it had plenty of things going for it that would make the average person think it was going to be a bigger success. Again, your logic is flawed. A person who does not approve of homosexuality, bisexuality or pansexuality is not necessarily bad, and just the same someone who does approve of them isn't necessarily a good person, either. And no, I am afraid you have also missed the mark again, "Authentic Christians" is a term used to describe a set of Christians who follow and practice the teachings of Christ very strictly compared to other Christians. The movie has a lot of problems, gay romance between two teenage boys or not. As stated before, (in my opinion) the movie just has far too much going on and the characters are not very interested or easy to attach to. Actual criticism, yes. Some reviews said the debut issue wasn't as action heavy as they would have liked, it read a bit more like a TV pilot episode than a comic book, and there was a lot of set-up. But I didn't say all manga was selling better than comic books from the United States, either way the link you provided did not support your argument that it has never been an occurrence. No, it doesn't. That logic is very flawed. It doesn't change that I don't really care. Them either liking Jones and Petersen or not isn't going to steer me away from clicking on a video of theirs that interests me. It isn't. If anything, it is more suggesting that a person such as him as a particular brand of comedy. It would mean differently if he outright says on video that it is all for show and he wants people's money. Well, that is unfortunate. But based on the way you go about yourself on here and in the other thread we are going back-and-forth on for all I know the two parties were not being kind or reasonable to each other and fire was everywhere. But the movie wasn't looking like something you were going to enjoy, anyway, so why invest the time with it?
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 29, 2023 0:28:14 GMT
If they can conceive of a superhero, then their minds can conceive "Oh, sometimes there's two grown ups at home and not just one." or "Sometimes it's two daddies or two mommies, okay" and not be destroyed by it.
Meaning showing that stuff on Blue's Clues isn't something that needs to be banned.
But their idea of a superhero is as underdeveloped as their idea of what romance is. A four-year-old can say that they want to be like Batman when they grow up, but they do not take into consideration that Batman is a vigilante who works all night, has millions of dollars of gadgetry at his disposal, and years of intense training and education that no normal person can achieve with ease. If they can conceive of "A Guy in a costume who fights bad guys", then they can conceive "Maybe I could have a Mommy along with my Daddy. I wonder why I don't?" or "Maybe there can be 2 Daddies or 2 Mommies".
It won't destroy their minds, it shouldn't be censored.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 29, 2023 0:39:01 GMT
So stuff from a past era that doesn't need to be repeated now. Today they can show their affection just like any other couple who visits does, and the kids won't care either way.
It's more that the core story of John Carter has been mined by so many others for so many decades it no longer stands out. Just like Wrinkle in Time.
So he's changed his mind again after first deciding not to do another one. Still doesn't make the first movie a failure.
It's the main reason why. Nothing he said would offend decent, tolerant people. There's nothing "Authentic" about those folks who would be that upset over something so minor.
Those that saw it, a lot of them still for whatever reason decided to label it a "degenerate" film...over something that's in it for like 5 seconds and never affects the movie at all.
Not actual criticism, no.
It calls it into question and shows that outright saying "All Manga Outsells Comics now" is a lie. Started by angry Comicgater folks.
It very much does. Grifters are following the Alex Jones stance and Jones follows his own predecessors like McCarthy.
It doesn't change that they're the blueprint.
It is. He doesn't need to say "I'm doing this to attract Larson haters", his actions speak for themselves.
I've tried, in return the Cultists try to Dox me.
Because I wasn't going to say anything about it without seeing it first.
I am afraid that you are, yet again, missing my point. My family was pretty accepting of my cousin and his boyfriend and didn't mind them showing their affections for one another when they were over. My cousin and his partner both made the decision to tone down the presentation of their relationship when I was around because they knew I was too young to understand everything, and just thinking of them as two very good friends was just enough given my age (it wasn't like they were lying or anything about their personal lives, they just didn't kiss or call each other nicknames). As for my music teacher in elementary school, he didn't hide who he was from class he was pretty eccentric he just didn't talk about his love life - No need for it, it wasn't part of the lesson plan. No, John Carter bombed because the marketing for it was very dull and very bland. The average consumer wasn't able to make out what it was about, it had no recognizable stars, and they took out "of Mars" from its title which did it no favors. In fact, the best bit of marketing for the movie came from fan trailers and an initiative by fans who tried to encourage the reading of the original novels for modern youths. The movie itself was okay at best but not the awe-inspiring cinema that fans of the source material had been hoping for. Paul Feig has never said that he didn't want to make a sequel to his reboot of Ghostbusters, which I didn't call a failure, I said it lost money. It wasn't, there were other things that contributed to its dismal performance, but it had plenty of things going for it that would make the average person think it was going to be a bigger success. Again, your logic is flawed. A person who does not approve of homosexuality, bisexuality or pansexuality is not necessarily bad, and just the same someone who does approve of them isn't necessarily a good person, either. And no, I am afraid you have also missed the mark again, "Authentic Christians" is a term used to describe a set of Christians who follow and practice the teachings of Christ very strictly compared to other Christians. The movie has a lot of problems, gay romance between two teenage boys or not. As stated before, (in my opinion) the movie just has far too much going on and the characters are not very interested or easy to attach to. Actual criticism, yes. Some reviews said the debut issue wasn't as action heavy as they would have liked, it read a bit more like a TV pilot episode than a comic book, and there was a lot of set-up. But I didn't say all manga was selling better than comic books from the United States, either way the link you provided did not support your argument that it has never been an occurrence. No, it doesn't. That logic is very flawed. It doesn't change that I don't really care. Them either liking Jones and Petersen or not isn't going to steer me away from clicking on a video of theirs that interests me. It isn't. If anything, it is more suggesting that a person such as him as a particular brand of comedy. It would mean differently if he outright says on video that it is all for show and he wants people's money. Well, that is unfortunate. But based on the way you go about yourself on here and in the other thread we are going back-and-forth on for all I know the two parties were not being kind or reasonable to each other and fire was everywhere. But the movie wasn't looking like something you were going to enjoy, anyway, so why invest the time with it? You don't know that you wouldn't have understood if they did anything like hold hands or smile at each other. And no teacher talks about their lovelife, it's unprofessional.
It wouldn't have done much better with other marketing, because the essence of the story just isn't that stand-out anymore these days.
It didn't bomb and made more than it cost to make, so it wasn't a failure. And Feig changed his mind to say he'd like to make a Sequel again.
If they subscribe to outdated, intolerant stances that have no place in modern society, then the thing speaks for itself. They don't understand the messages in the Holy Texts they claim to know so well. Including "Authentic" Christians.
That's not what the majority of the criticism (or any of it actually) brings up. They're just complaining about the homosexual kid.
That's not real criticism, none of that is actually negative. It's fake criticism to try and hide that they aren't just his supporters.
It says that people haven't been using the best data and it's exaggeration. It's all nonsense started by Comicsgate anyways.
The other Grifters didn't emerge until after he started up. Causality.
They're still the Blueprint, just as McCarthy was their Blueprint.
Not a brand of comedy, just knowing that if he does a certain thing it will attract certain haters and earn him clicks and free $$$. Not because he believes anything he's saying.
They threw the first punch, it's what made me realize that being conciliatory was pointless. Outdated people have no intention of co-existing with anyone.
Because if I complain about something, I bother seeing it first. I don't do what Grifters do and get my information second-hand.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 29, 2023 1:19:42 GMT
But their idea of a superhero is as underdeveloped as their idea of what romance is. A four-year-old can say that they want to be like Batman when they grow up, but they do not take into consideration that Batman is a vigilante who works all night, has millions of dollars of gadgetry at his disposal, and years of intense training and education that no normal person can achieve with ease. If they can conceive of "A Guy in a costume who fights bad guys", then they can conceive "Maybe I could have a Mommy along with my Daddy. I wonder why I don't?" or "Maybe there can be 2 Daddies or 2 Mommies".
It won't destroy their minds, it shouldn't be censored.
Missing the point again, I'm afraid. And once again, I did not say their minds would be destroyed if exposed to concepts like homosexuality, transgenderism, etc. and I didn't call for content to be censored.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 29, 2023 1:40:16 GMT
I am afraid that you are, yet again, missing my point. My family was pretty accepting of my cousin and his boyfriend and didn't mind them showing their affections for one another when they were over. My cousin and his partner both made the decision to tone down the presentation of their relationship when I was around because they knew I was too young to understand everything, and just thinking of them as two very good friends was just enough given my age (it wasn't like they were lying or anything about their personal lives, they just didn't kiss or call each other nicknames). As for my music teacher in elementary school, he didn't hide who he was from class he was pretty eccentric he just didn't talk about his love life - No need for it, it wasn't part of the lesson plan. No, John Carter bombed because the marketing for it was very dull and very bland. The average consumer wasn't able to make out what it was about, it had no recognizable stars, and they took out "of Mars" from its title which did it no favors. In fact, the best bit of marketing for the movie came from fan trailers and an initiative by fans who tried to encourage the reading of the original novels for modern youths. The movie itself was okay at best but not the awe-inspiring cinema that fans of the source material had been hoping for. Paul Feig has never said that he didn't want to make a sequel to his reboot of Ghostbusters, which I didn't call a failure, I said it lost money. It wasn't, there were other things that contributed to its dismal performance, but it had plenty of things going for it that would make the average person think it was going to be a bigger success. Again, your logic is flawed. A person who does not approve of homosexuality, bisexuality or pansexuality is not necessarily bad, and just the same someone who does approve of them isn't necessarily a good person, either. And no, I am afraid you have also missed the mark again, "Authentic Christians" is a term used to describe a set of Christians who follow and practice the teachings of Christ very strictly compared to other Christians. The movie has a lot of problems, gay romance between two teenage boys or not. As stated before, (in my opinion) the movie just has far too much going on and the characters are not very interested or easy to attach to. Actual criticism, yes. Some reviews said the debut issue wasn't as action heavy as they would have liked, it read a bit more like a TV pilot episode than a comic book, and there was a lot of set-up. But I didn't say all manga was selling better than comic books from the United States, either way the link you provided did not support your argument that it has never been an occurrence. No, it doesn't. That logic is very flawed. It doesn't change that I don't really care. Them either liking Jones and Petersen or not isn't going to steer me away from clicking on a video of theirs that interests me. It isn't. If anything, it is more suggesting that a person such as him as a particular brand of comedy. It would mean differently if he outright says on video that it is all for show and he wants people's money. Well, that is unfortunate. But based on the way you go about yourself on here and in the other thread we are going back-and-forth on for all I know the two parties were not being kind or reasonable to each other and fire was everywhere. But the movie wasn't looking like something you were going to enjoy, anyway, so why invest the time with it? You don't know that you wouldn't have understood if they did anything like hold hands or smile at each other. And no teacher talks about their lovelife, it's unprofessional.
It wouldn't have done much better with other marketing, because the essence of the story just isn't that stand-out anymore these days.
It didn't bomb and made more than it cost to make, so it wasn't a failure. And Feig changed his mind to say he'd like to make a Sequel again.
If they subscribe to outdated, intolerant stances that have no place in modern society, then the thing speaks for itself. They don't understand the messages in the Holy Texts they claim to know so well. Including "Authentic" Christians.
That's not what the majority of the criticism (or any of it actually) brings up. They're just complaining about the homosexual kid.
That's not real criticism, none of that is actually negative. It's fake criticism to try and hide that they aren't just his supporters.
It says that people haven't been using the best data and it's exaggeration. It's all nonsense started by Comicsgate anyways.
The other Grifters didn't emerge until after he started up. Causality.
They're still the Blueprint, just as McCarthy was their Blueprint.
Not a brand of comedy, just knowing that if he does a certain thing it will attract certain haters and earn him clicks and free $$$. Not because he believes anything he's saying.
They threw the first punch, it's what made me realize that being conciliatory was pointless. Outdated people have no intention of co-existing with anyone.
Because if I complain about something, I bother seeing it first. I don't do what Grifters do and get my information second-hand.
I don't think I would have understood it at all, I was too young to. But many teachers do, which is part of the reason why Florida introduced the bill last year. By that logic, shouldn't the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit films have flopped spectacularly? What about the other iconic stories that have been made into movies again and again every few years like Pride and Prejudice, A Tale of Two Cities, A Christmas Carol, and Sherlock Holmes? Again, I didn't say it was a bomb, I didn't say it was a failure, I said it lost money, there's a distinction between all three. And I have never come across any statement by Paul Feig where says he doesn't want to make a sequel. It depends on the person, one can be in favor of homosexuality and not be a good person in other ways, and one cannot be in favor of the same exact thing but be a good person still. Supporting one or the other shouldn't be the only qualification to define the character of an individual. Plenty have complained about other aspects related to the movie in my online ventures, so it's not just the romance. It is real criticism. *You* made the argument that manga has never outsold a comic book made in the United States, *you* shared an article that admits that some manga have outsold many western comic book titles, *you* shared an article only calls into question the sales numbers for one title. In other words, *you* failed at supporting your argument. You still have not provided any concrete evidence of him admitting to be a scam artist. Till you can, do not waste my time trying to argue this talking point. I don't care. If anything, your approach is very outdated. Fighting fire with fire is a very flawed approach in argument. Isn't that what the people you call grifters do? Consume media they claim to hate to rant about it?
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 29, 2023 13:11:33 GMT
If they can conceive of "A Guy in a costume who fights bad guys", then they can conceive "Maybe I could have a Mommy along with my Daddy. I wonder why I don't?" or "Maybe there can be 2 Daddies or 2 Mommies".
It won't destroy their minds, it shouldn't be censored.
Missing the point again, I'm afraid. And once again, I did not say their minds would be destroyed if exposed to concepts like homosexuality, transgenderism, etc. and I didn't call for content to be censored. The point is, the parents complaining are just being smothering and overprotective.
Then why are you complaining?
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 29, 2023 13:20:31 GMT
You don't know that you wouldn't have understood if they did anything like hold hands or smile at each other. And no teacher talks about their lovelife, it's unprofessional.
It wouldn't have done much better with other marketing, because the essence of the story just isn't that stand-out anymore these days.
It didn't bomb and made more than it cost to make, so it wasn't a failure. And Feig changed his mind to say he'd like to make a Sequel again.
If they subscribe to outdated, intolerant stances that have no place in modern society, then the thing speaks for itself. They don't understand the messages in the Holy Texts they claim to know so well. Including "Authentic" Christians.
That's not what the majority of the criticism (or any of it actually) brings up. They're just complaining about the homosexual kid.
That's not real criticism, none of that is actually negative. It's fake criticism to try and hide that they aren't just his supporters.
It says that people haven't been using the best data and it's exaggeration. It's all nonsense started by Comicsgate anyways.
The other Grifters didn't emerge until after he started up. Causality.
They're still the Blueprint, just as McCarthy was their Blueprint.
Not a brand of comedy, just knowing that if he does a certain thing it will attract certain haters and earn him clicks and free $$$. Not because he believes anything he's saying.
They threw the first punch, it's what made me realize that being conciliatory was pointless. Outdated people have no intention of co-existing with anyone.
Because if I complain about something, I bother seeing it first. I don't do what Grifters do and get my information second-hand.
I don't think I would have understood it at all, I was too young to. But many teachers do, which is part of the reason why Florida introduced the bill last year. By that logic, shouldn't the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit films have flopped spectacularly? What about the other iconic stories that have been made into movies again and again every few years like Pride and Prejudice, A Tale of Two Cities, A Christmas Carol, and Sherlock Holmes? Again, I didn't say it was a bomb, I didn't say it was a failure, I said it lost money, there's a distinction between all three. And I have never come across any statement by Paul Feig where says he doesn't want to make a sequel. It depends on the person, one can be in favor of homosexuality and not be a good person in other ways, and one cannot be in favor of the same exact thing but be a good person still. Supporting one or the other shouldn't be the only qualification to define the character of an individual. Plenty have complained about other aspects related to the movie in my online ventures, so it's not just the romance. It is real criticism. *You* made the argument that manga has never outsold a comic book made in the United States, *you* shared an article that admits that some manga have outsold many western comic book titles, *you* shared an article only calls into question the sales numbers for one title. In other words, *you* failed at supporting your argument. You still have not provided any concrete evidence of him admitting to be a scam artist. Till you can, do not waste my time trying to argue this talking point. I don't care. If anything, your approach is very outdated. Fighting fire with fire is a very flawed approach in argument. Isn't that what the people you call grifters do? Consume media they claim to hate to rant about it? Florida did that bill because Florida is a holdout for outdated cultural stances. And you don't know if you wouldn't have understood, kids aren't as blind and deaf as overprotective adults think.
No one had ever done live action movies on that scale before, not even those 80s fantasy movies. And the Hobbit movies are criticized much more, yes.
Those stories get remade because they're a proven success, A Wrinkle In Time was never done before.
It didn't lose money either, because it brought in more than it took to make. The idea it failed was a fake rumor propagated by certain "fans". And Feig saying he wants to make a sequel now just means he changed his mind.
It's not the only qualification, though intolerance is a decent indicator of someones' nature.
The vast majority of it was purely about the homosexual character, there's some minor stuff about the environmental themes but they're minor.
It's fake criticism, to hide that they're just his obedient supporters who don't want to look too mindless.
I brought up the article to show that in that case, it wasn't the easy "it outsold comics!" argument that the Comicgaters say it was. I'm sure there's more.
None of them will admit it, you read it from their arguments.
Unfortunate, but it doesn't change that they're the Proto-Grifters.
Being conciliatory is pointless, they have no intention of co-existence. They threw the first punch, they should offer the olive branch.
No, the Grifters don't actually watch the stuff they rant about. They hear rumors and second hand sources but don't actually watch it.
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