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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 8, 2023 16:43:09 GMT
On the Internet I occasionally run into phony preachers who want the masses to believe that the Book of Daniel pertains to contemporaries of this modern time. I suspect they have been doing it for maybe a hundred years or more, and many of the people who were told that Daniel was prophesying about them have already died of old age waiting for something to happen. The people spreading this narrative say they are Christians, and perhaps some of them are, but I do believe their information is coming from Globalist/Zionist sources.
I found this video last year, and I think it's very good. The North.....Selucid Empire. The South.....Ptolemaic Empire. And the Holy Land right in between them. Makes sense to me. The temple referenced in Daniel 11 is the Second Temple, not the Third Temple that the Globalists are going to build in the coming years. Antiochus IV desecrated that temple. It happened already.
I'm not saying the Book of Danial doesn't pertain to us at all, but it isn't talking directly about us. It's talking about Daniel's people. And if that's an ego-buster for anyone out there, good.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 8, 2023 23:50:50 GMT
Global/Zionists?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 9, 2023 0:16:02 GMT
Global/Zionists? They're pretty much the same thing.
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 9, 2023 3:46:02 GMT
You are correct that Daniel is not a “history written in advance” that references current events. However, your use of Globalist/Zionists seems to say that you do believe that Daniel speaks directly to use because those terms are (mainly) from the 20th century and are often associated with modern anti-Jewish rhetoric.
19th and 20th century fundamentalism developed in rebellion of Darwin and other advances in science that seemed to contradict the ancient world views of the Bible and of the Higher Criticism that questioned authorships and historical accuracy. Couple this with a basic misunderstanding of what “prophet” meant in the Hebrew Scriptures and you have “history written in advance.”
In modern English, “prophet” is a person who sees the future. The biblical prophets, however, predicted a future to the people he was preaching to, but that future was, for the most part, conditional. The prophets called the people to repentance and a return to the worship of the true God. If not, all the shit he’s taking about will come down on them. They can avoid this doom by following what he teaches.
So, some believe, there are still life lessons to be learned from Isaac, Amos, Habakuk, and the rest, but they don’t tell us about what is going to happen in 2023.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 9, 2023 4:05:33 GMT
You are correct that Daniel is not a “history written in advance” that references current events. However, your use of Globalist/Zionists seems to say that you do believe that Daniel speaks directly to use because those terms are (mainly) from the 20th century and are often associated with modern anti-Jewish rhetoric. 19th and 20th century fundamentalism developed in rebellion of Darwin and other advances in science that seemed to contradict the ancient world views of the Bible and of the Higher Criticism that questioned authorships and historical accuracy. Couple this with a basic misunderstanding of what “prophet” meant in the Hebrew Scriptures and you have “history written in advance.” In modern English, “prophet” is a person who sees the future. The biblical prophets, however, predicted a future to the people he was preaching to, but that future was, for the most part, conditional. The prophets called the people to repentance and a return to the worship of the true God. If not, all the shit he’s taking about will come down on them. They can avoid this doom by following what he teaches. So, some believe, there are still life lessons to be learned from Isaac, Amos, Habakuk, and the rest, but they don’t tell us about what is going to happen in 2023. Interesting. I am of the belief that the Globalist/Zionists have perpetuated a false prophecy, using Daniel. I regard Daniel as prophecy which was fulfilled a long time ago. I also believe the "covenant with many" refers to Christ and the New Covenant, which has also been fulfilled, not to the Antichrist and a covenant of nations. There is no promise of a Third Temple on Mt. Moriah in the Christian Bible. I do believe the Third Temple is referenced in the Bible, Book of Matthew, but not by that name and not in a good way. This Third Temple is strongly tied to something called the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, which I believe is a Globalist hoax.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 9, 2023 4:41:57 GMT
You are correct that Daniel is not a “history written in advance” that references current events. However, your use of Globalist/Zionists seems to say that you do believe that Daniel speaks directly to use because those terms are (mainly) from the 20th century and are often associated with modern anti-Jewish rhetoric. 19th and 20th century fundamentalism developed in rebellion of Darwin and other advances in science that seemed to contradict the ancient world views of the Bible and of the Higher Criticism that questioned authorships and historical accuracy. Couple this with a basic misunderstanding of what “prophet” meant in the Hebrew Scriptures and you have “history written in advance.” In modern English, “prophet” is a person who sees the future. The biblical prophets, however, predicted a future to the people he was preaching to, but that future was, for the most part, conditional. The prophets called the people to repentance and a return to the worship of the true God. If not, all the shit he’s taking about will come down on them. They can avoid this doom by following what he teaches. So, some believe, there are still life lessons to be learned from Isaac, Amos, Habakuk, and the rest, but they don’t tell us about what is going to happen in 2023. Interesting. I am of the belief that the Globalist/Zionists have perpetuated a false prophecy, using Daniel. I regard Daniel as prophecy which was fulfilled a long time ago. I also believe the "covenant with many" refers to Christ and the New Covenant, which has also been fulfilled, not to the Antichrist and a covenant of nations. There is no promise of a Third Temple on Mt. Moriah in the Christian Bible. I do believe the Third Temple is referenced in the Bible, Book of Matthew, but not by that name and not in a good way. This Third Temple is strongly tied to something called the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, which I believe is a Globalist hoax. Who are these "globalist/zionists." George Soros? The Elders of Sion?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 9, 2023 4:46:52 GMT
Interesting. I am of the belief that the Globalist/Zionists have perpetuated a false prophecy, using Daniel. I regard Daniel as prophecy which was fulfilled a long time ago. I also believe the "covenant with many" refers to Christ and the New Covenant, which has also been fulfilled, not to the Antichrist and a covenant of nations. There is no promise of a Third Temple on Mt. Moriah in the Christian Bible. I do believe the Third Temple is referenced in the Bible, Book of Matthew, but not by that name and not in a good way. This Third Temple is strongly tied to something called the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, which I believe is a Globalist hoax. Who are these "globalist/zionists." George Soros? The Elders of Sion? Do I have to bring out the pyramid with the eyeball again? Come on, don't make me do that.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 9, 2023 4:51:04 GMT
Who are these "globalist/zionists." George Soros? The Elders of Sion? Do I have to bring out the pyramid with the eyeball again? Come on, don't make me do that. Name names.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 9, 2023 4:57:33 GMT
Do I have to bring out the pyramid with the eyeball again? Come on, don't make me do that. Name names. How the hell would I know what their names are? They don't show themselves. George Soros is an employee. His specialty is causing chaos and division. Klaus Schwab is another one. His job is to make world socialism look desirable. Anything to say about Daniel Chapter 11? If you think I'm interpreting it wrong, just say so. I won't get mad about it.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 9, 2023 5:02:08 GMT
How the hell would I know what their names are? They don't show themselves. George Soros is an employee. His specialty is causing chaos and division. Klaus Schwab is another one. His job is to make world socialism look desirable. Anything to say about Daniel Chapter 11? If you think I'm interpreting it wrong, just say so. I won't get mad about it. You know all about them other than who they are. Okay. As for your interpretation, you are spot on.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 9, 2023 5:13:18 GMT
How the hell would I know what their names are? They don't show themselves. George Soros is an employee. His specialty is causing chaos and division. Klaus Schwab is another one. His job is to make world socialism look desirable. Anything to say about Daniel Chapter 11? If you think I'm interpreting it wrong, just say so. I won't get mad about it. You know all about them other than who they are. Okay. As for your interpretation, you are spot on. Thanks. You're right. I don't know who they are, but you might say that by their fruits I know they exist.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 9, 2023 5:21:17 GMT
You know all about them other than who they are. Okay. As for your interpretation, you are spot on. Thanks. You're right. I don't know who they are, but you might say that by their fruits I know they exist. If you walk in a peach grove and see a rotten peach on ground, do you know for sure which tree it fell from or if a tree is responsible for the rotten fruit...maybe it was overly sprayed, or Jack Frost got it. You should study up on your fruits so you can properly identify the cause of the rot and not destroy a perfectly good tree.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 9, 2023 5:23:07 GMT
Thanks. You're right. I don't know who they are, but you might say that by their fruits I know they exist. If you walk in a peach grove and see a rotten peach on ground, do you know for sure which tree it fell from or if a tree is responsible for the rotten fruit...maybe it was overly sprayed, or Jack Frost got it. You should study up on your fruits so you can properly identify the cause of the rot and not destroy a perfectly good tree. The kind of rot that's going on in the world today is not natural.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 9, 2023 5:28:19 GMT
If you walk in a peach grove and see a rotten peach on ground, do you know for sure which tree it fell from or if a tree is responsible for the rotten fruit...maybe it was overly sprayed, or Jack Frost got it. You should study up on your fruits so you can properly identify the cause of the rot and not destroy a perfectly good tree. The kind of rot that's going on in the world today is not natural. Since you've only lived this one lifetime, how do you know it is not natural?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 9, 2023 5:37:38 GMT
The kind of rot that's going on in the world today is not natural. Since you've only lived this one lifetime, how do you know it is not natural? Because things are happening that should not be happening. IIRC, Edgar Cayce predicted it, massive social upheaval in the first part of the 21st Century, but he was only able to see the effect, not the cause. What do you think is causing it? Evolution perhaps?
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 9, 2023 6:04:01 GMT
Since you've only lived this one lifetime, how do you know it is not natural? Because things are happening that should not be happening. IIRC, Edgar Cayce predicted it, massive social upheaval in the first part of the 21st Century, but he was only able to see the effect, not the cause. What do you think is causing it? Evolution perhaps? There has been massive social upheaval since there have been humans. If you don't know the cause of something, then guessing at does not help, it makes it worse. Pinpoint the cause. It is possible that the massive social upheaval is caused by massive social change.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 9, 2023 11:43:32 GMT
There has been massive social upheaval since there have been humans. If you don't know the cause of something, then guessing at does not help, it makes it worse. Pinpoint the cause. It is possible that the massive social upheaval is caused by massive social change. And global elitists desperate to keep the status quo intact and the masses down. Right, there is no central committee controlling anything. It's dozens of different self-interested parties with varying degrees of power and money jerking the system around. Or really just normal chaotic human behavior all hopelessly churning up against each other.
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 9, 2023 12:12:37 GMT
How the hell would I know what their names are? They don't show themselves. George Soros is an employee. His specialty is causing chaos and division. Klaus Schwab is another one. His job is to make world socialism look desirable. Anything to say about Daniel Chapter 11? If you think I'm interpreting it wrong, just say so. I won't get mad about it. The man is the founder of the World Economic Forum. If anything his job is making sure that socialists won't come for him and his ilk.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 9, 2023 12:53:34 GMT
Right, there is no central committee controlling anything. It's dozens of different self-interested parties with varying degrees of power and money jerking the system around. Or really just normal chaotic human behavior all hopelessly churning up against each other. Though the chaos is creating abnormality in world and the system isn't functioning as well it could.
Too much compartmentalization.
The system is working just fine. Before too much longer the International Rich (a “nation” in its own right) will have all the money, because there’s no difference in Commie Chinese greed and wholesome, all American greed. Herald rightly sees rotten fruit, but he’s lost in the trees and does not how his that rotten fruit got here and why it’s rotten. One cure that’s often tried is too burn down the entire fruit tree forest.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 9, 2023 14:00:41 GMT
How the hell would I know what their names are? They don't show themselves. George Soros is an employee. His specialty is causing chaos and division. Klaus Schwab is another one. His job is to make world socialism look desirable. Anything to say about Daniel Chapter 11? If you think I'm interpreting it wrong, just say so. I won't get mad about it. The man is the founder of the World Economic Forum. If anything his job is making sure that socialists won't come for him and his ilk. "You will own nothing and be happy" doesn't have a very nice ring to it, IMO.
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