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Post by Lux on Jan 16, 2023 19:40:31 GMT
He’s a hack because he makes the same type of video over and over again. There’s no substance to anything that he or the other Fandom Menace types make. All they do is call everything they don’t like “woke,” and make money off it. When you have diversity quotas for directing and writing staff, that’s pretty woke. That’s just one example. Why was sci-fi cinema better 35 years ago? Aliens, Predator and Robocop. If you grow up with that then you bet we can criticise today’s dreck, especially the MCU. No, Robocop was shit Murphy's trusted colleagues running away the minute the swat team show up to kill their friend was worse than any Marvel movie, not forgetting the dumb cop going to a warehouse unprepared and outnumbered to then get himself killed. Today's dreck that you can't stop talking about or socialising with its fans when you have nothing else to do. Yes Marvel has released some shit movies recently NWH and Black Panther 2 but there comes a time when you need to stop trolling and get a life.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 19:48:49 GMT
Since you also brought up Alien, I would have to imagine that if that movie came out today, you guys would be calling it “woke” as well, what with the fact that it has a female lead who isn’t particularly feminine. The great thing about the character of Ellen Ripley (and really, all of the female characters in Aliens) is the fact that they're women isn't made a focal point. They're strong characters, and by the way, they're women. We can all see that, we don't need it explained to us in dialog or subplots. Maybe the lamest thing about Captain Marvel and Black Widow (two movies that I think I liked more than most people did) is that they both have this lazy 'girl power,' post me-too theme of women being gaslit and controlled by men. It's the exact same overarching theme in both films. Just tell a superhero story that happens to revolve around a woman, why does it have to be the same, very gender specific social commentary in both films? Marvel waited too long to make movies focusing on female characters, and we got these heavy-handed overcorrections as a result. And again, I actually liked both movies more than most people did, but Marvel could've done so much better with both of them, for starters by focusing on the characters' personal stories instead of the oppression of women or whatever. Do it once, fine I guess; but twice? I agree with this completely. The general themes of “wokeness” don’t usually bother me on a political level- it’s just all so god damn boring and predictable, resulting in mediocre stories with mediocre characters. And the social commentary is usually so simplistic and hollow that it’s actually rather counterproductive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2023 20:09:36 GMT
I would never waste a second watching videos like this. I’m guessing this guy is super right wing? I’m pretty progressive but I do have issues with some of the “woke” stuff. She Hulk is a pretty good example of how lame it can be. They have that whole “I can do anything better than you” bit with her and Bruce which would’ve been very subversive… if it came out in 1950. Social commentary needs to be more layered than that or it’s just cringey. Yes, girls can do anything. Do I really need a show to hit me over the head with this in 2022? How about treating her like a complex character instead of a mouthpiece. That would be progressive!
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 17, 2023 8:18:30 GMT
I would never waste a second watching videos like this. I’m guessing this guy is super right wing? I’m pretty progressive but I do have issues with some of the “woke” stuff. She Hulk is a pretty good example of how lame it can be. They have that whole “I can do anything better than you” bit with her and Bruce which would’ve been very subversive… if it came out in 1950. Social commentary needs to be more layered than that or it’s just cringey. Yes, girls can do anything. Do I really need a show to hit me over the head with this in 2022? How about treating her like a complex character instead of a mouthpiece. That would be progressive! No, he isn’t. His videos are well made and entertaining.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 17, 2023 13:03:46 GMT
I'm 45, I'd put Aliens and Predator easily into my all-time top ten action movies (and Robocop is also a classic); and while there's some trash in there, especially lately, I still enjoy the majority of MCU content. Well I don’t like the majority of MCU content. I like very little of it and haven’t liked anything of theirs for years. They are absolutely squandering the massive potential of the Marvel brand. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't understand the comparisons to rated R 80s actioners. That isn't the tone I want for superhero flicks. Are you a huge fan of the Snyderverse?
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 17, 2023 14:12:35 GMT
I would never waste a second watching videos like this. I’m guessing this guy is super right wing? I’m pretty progressive but I do have issues with some of the “woke” stuff. She Hulk is a pretty good example of how lame it can be. They have that whole “I can do anything better than you” bit with her and Bruce which would’ve been very subversive… if it came out in 1950. Social commentary needs to be more layered than that or it’s just cringey. Yes, girls can do anything. Do I really need a show to hit me over the head with this in 2022? How about treating her like a complex character instead of a mouthpiece. That would be progressive! No, he isn’t. His videos are well made and entertaining. Nah, they're Right Wing filth. The kind of stuff Alex Jones will be reduced to once his legal problems are over.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 17, 2023 14:36:18 GMT
The problem with art is that merit is not democratic.
It's like a 100 meter sprint. You expect the fastest runner to be the star. That is the merit factor. But in movies, the situation has developed much like what happened with visual art where merit and standards and public identification no longer matters. The political message is everything. And it is totally obnoxious to say that European people, especially hetero white men, should not make films or be the target audience when they invented the fucking art form!
50 years ago there were dozens of white male directors (and from Asia) who specialized in particular film genres for commercial release. Horror for example. Now how many are there in the commercial realm? Certainly not many Europeans. And the ones that are....well, not the A Team compared to the old days.
I think a reason they do not want to have a wide open--anything goes film competition is because folk like Eli Roth, M Night Shyamalan, and Jordan Peele would be in the dust bin. They would be overshadowed by more talented individuals. We are in a Soviet phase of film--bureaucratic and boring.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 17, 2023 16:22:26 GMT
The problem with art is that merit is not democratic. It's like a 100 meter sprint. You expect the fastest runner to be the star. That is the merit factor. But in movies, the situation has developed much like what happened with visual art where merit and standards and public identification no longer matters. The political message is everything. And it is totally obnoxious to say that European people, especially hetero white men, should not make films or be the target audience when they invented the fucking art form! 50 years ago there were dozens of white male directors (and from Asia) who specialized in particular film genres for commercial release. Horror for example. Now how many are there in the commercial realm? Certainly not many Europeans. And the ones that are....well, not the A Team compared to the old days. I think a reason they do not want to have a wide open--anything goes film competition is because folk like Eli Roth, M Night Shyamalan, and Jordan Peele would be in the dust bin. They would be overshadowed by more talented individuals. We are in a Soviet phase of film--bureaucratic and boring. Isn't Shyamalan seen as a joke? For a large part of his career, the audience would literally groan in the theater when his name flashed on the screen during a trailer.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 17, 2023 18:33:12 GMT
Well I don’t like the majority of MCU content. I like very little of it and haven’t liked anything of theirs for years. They are absolutely squandering the massive potential of the Marvel brand. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't understand the comparisons to rated R 80s actioners. That isn't the tone I want for superhero flicks. Are you a huge fan of the Snyderverse? It’s the fact that they are quality. It need not be R-Rated. What about Planet of the Apes? Much better than any Marvel shit. Am I a fan of the Snyderverse? No.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 17, 2023 19:58:50 GMT
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I don't understand the comparisons to rated R 80s actioners. That isn't the tone I want for superhero flicks. Are you a huge fan of the Snyderverse? It’s the fact that they are quality. It need not be R-Rated. What about Planet of the Apes? Much better than any Marvel shit. Am I a fan of the Snyderverse? No. To me, most superhero movies should occupy a space somewhere between the self-seriousness of the Snyderverse and the self-parody of Thor: Love & Thunder. The MCU for the most part has struck the balance between humor, drama, and action perfectly. Most audiences agree; if that wasn't true, the MCU wouldn't be going strong, 30 films in. There have been some misses, especially on the tv side, but overall the quality has been consistent. I was never a huge fan of the POTA movies beyond the original. They aren't bad, just not my thing. But the quality of the MCU, in terms of production value and storytelling, is superior to those films. Again, it's all subjective, but the success and longevity of the MCU speaks to its perceived quality among audiences the world over.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 17, 2023 21:39:12 GMT
Isn't Shyamalan seen as a joke? For a large part of his career, the audience would literally groan in the theater when his name flashed on the screen during a trailer. Not at first. He was touted as the next Spielberg. And he still gets work. But the reality is, he was specifically promoted because he was not a white guy.
Rian Johnson is a sad alternative too. 50 years ago if a filmmaker was interviewed, they didn't giggle their way through it like he does.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 18, 2023 3:34:41 GMT
Why exactly does a video from this grifter hack need to be posted here? Because OP doesn't like seeing women and minorities in leading roles.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 18, 2023 3:40:27 GMT
Isn't Shyamalan seen as a joke? For a large part of his career, the audience would literally groan in the theater when his name flashed on the screen during a trailer. Not at first. He was touted as the next Spielberg. And he still gets work. But the reality is, he was specifically promoted because he was not a white guy.
Rian Johnson is a sad alternative too. 50 years ago if a filmmaker was interviewed, they didn't giggle their way through it like he does.
You’re full of sh!t, buddy. Shyamalan self-finances his films these days.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 18, 2023 4:08:43 GMT
Why exactly does a video from this grifter hack need to be posted here? To be far, there is no rule that says that the original poster cannot share media by someone like Gary Buechler (Nerdrotic), who I wouldn't really describe as a grifter, since he's not making any money off of content where he is knowingly making false statements.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 18, 2023 4:22:59 GMT
If he’s a hack then criticise what he says. He’s a hack because he makes the same type of video over and over again. There’s no substance to anything that he or the other Fandom Menace types make. All they do is call everything they don’t like “woke,” and make money off it. Now, you don't have to like the content of someone like a Gary Buechler aka Nerdrotic but to say they are incapable of making an argument with substance isn't logically correct. Buechler has shown to be substantial when making certain arguments in his livestreams, and when it comes to the comic book industry, he does know his share of things regarding consumer appeal, sales, and quality of storytelling having owned a pretty big store in San Diego, California back in the day (Wired.com even featured him in a story - www.wired.com/2009/02/secret-lives-of-comic-store-employees/ )
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 18, 2023 4:24:31 GMT
When you have diversity quotas for directing and writing staff, that’s pretty woke. That’s just one example. Why was sci-fi cinema better 35 years ago? Aliens, Predator and Robocop. If you grow up with that then you bet we can criticise today’s dreck, especially the MCU. “Woke” is a buzzword that has no meaning. Also, you are aware that Paul Verhoeven is very left-wing, right? "Woke" is progressivism taken to the extreme. What becomes "eat more fruit to be healthy" turns into "eat nothing but fruit or else" - to give example of the difference in approach of argument.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 18, 2023 4:27:36 GMT
When you have diversity quotas for directing and writing staff, that’s pretty woke. That’s just one example. Why was sci-fi cinema better 35 years ago? Aliens, Predator and Robocop. If you grow up with that then you bet we can criticise today’s dreck, especially the MCU. There are no diversity quotas for directing and writing staff, they're just trying to counteract the people who only get jobs because of their family connections and nepotism.
Scifi wasn't better 35 years ago, a lot of stuff back then would be called SJW propaganda now like Aliens and Predator.
That doesn't quite ring true with what I have heard from people I know who do or have worked in the entertainment industry. Nothing about Aliens or Predator would be called social justice warrior propaganda unless you had to do a complete rewrite of either film from scratch.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 18, 2023 7:15:44 GMT
You’re full of sh!t, buddy. Shyamalan self-finances his films these days. But he is still a diversity privilege beneficiary. Like the mayor of London or the prime minister of England. He would be totally unknown today if he had to compete with native artists of European countries where his films were shown. He was propped up artificially because Hollywood didn't want to be a venue for cultural creators of the society. They want imports.
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Post by blockbusted on Jan 18, 2023 8:40:32 GMT
You’re full of sh!t, buddy. Shyamalan self-finances his films these days. But he is still a diversity privilege beneficiary. Like the mayor of London or the prime minister of England. He would be totally unknown today if he had to compete with native artists of European countries where his films were shown. He was propped up artificially because Hollywood didn't want to be a venue for cultural creators of the society. They want imports.
Dude, don’t be silly. Since ‘Split’, his films have been making substantial profits again.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 18, 2023 9:42:03 GMT
Why exactly does a video from this grifter hack need to be posted here? Because OP doesn't like seeing women and minorities in leading roles. If not for lies, you’d have little to offer here at all.
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