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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 22, 2023 19:38:29 GMT
That's what I expected you to say. Demons and demonic possession don't exist mate... They make for great horror filums, but they aren't real. If you want to find demons, look in the hearts and minds of people. That's where you will find them. Yeah they do.....mate. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jan 22, 2023 19:44:57 GMT
Are you sure it was Rhihana music that was playing in Hell and not 80s adult contemporary?
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Post by clusium on Jan 22, 2023 19:47:22 GMT
That's what I expected you to say. Demons and demonic possession don't exist mate... They make for great horror filums, but they aren't real. If you want to find demons, look in the hearts and minds of people. That's where you will find them. As The Herald Erjen already mentioned "yeah they do...mate," & your Bishop would be the first to tell you this, because every single Archdioceses in the entire planet is equipped with its own priests that are trained exorcists. Msgr Stephen Rossetti's Blog |
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 22, 2023 20:15:56 GMT
It’s the “Exorcist proof” for God. If a demon can possess a little innocent girl and make her head spin around, then God exists. Your chances of getting a Vatican approved exorcism are slim to none... mental health problems are well understood now... Demonic possession is a great movie theme, but not real. PS... The Exorcist isn't about Regan's possession by Pazuzu... It's about Fr Karras' crisis of faith.Which is confirmed when he realizes Regan is indeed possessed by something demonic. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 22, 2023 20:21:33 GMT
Demons and demonic possession don't exist mate... They make for great horror filums, but they aren't real. If you want to find demons, look in the hearts and minds of people. That's where you will find them. As The Herald Erjen already mentioned "yeah they do...mate," & your Bishop would be the first to tell you this, because every single Archdioceses in the entire planet is equipped with its own priests that are trained exorcists. Msgr Stephen Rossetti's BlogExorcisms were originally used to clean out pagan worship spaces of the old gods and spirits whom the Church identified as evil spirits whose adherents employed astrology, magically incantations, necromancy, mathematics and science, etc, that is things originally forbidden in Judaism, in their worship. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 21:00:19 GMT
Demons and demonic possession don't exist mate... They make for great horror filums, but they aren't real. If you want to find demons, look in the hearts and minds of people. That's where you will find them. As The Herald Erjen already mentioned "yeah they do...mate," & your Bishop would be the first to tell you this, because every single Archdioceses in the entire planet is equipped with its own priests that are trained exorcists. Msgr Stephen Rossetti's BlogMy Bishop would be the first to tell you that we haven't had an 'exorcism' in our Diocese for decades... You would be referred to mental health services. |
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Post by clusium on Jan 22, 2023 22:13:25 GMT
As The Herald Erjen already mentioned "yeah they do...mate," & your Bishop would be the first to tell you this, because every single Archdioceses in the entire planet is equipped with its own priests that are trained exorcists. Msgr Stephen Rossetti's BlogMy Bishop would be the first to tell you that we haven't had an 'exorcism' in our Diocese for decades... You would be referred to mental health services. Just because you guys have not had an exorcism in decades, does not mean that your Diocese does not have any priests that are trained in exorcisms. Hint: They would. |
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Post by clusium on Jan 22, 2023 22:14:19 GMT
As The Herald Erjen already mentioned "yeah they do...mate," & your Bishop would be the first to tell you this, because every single Archdioceses in the entire planet is equipped with its own priests that are trained exorcists. Msgr Stephen Rossetti's BlogExorcisms were originally used to clean out pagan worship spaces of the old gods and spirits whom the Church identified as evil spirits whose adherents employed astrology, magically incantations, necromancy, mathematics and science, etc, that is things originally forbidden in Judaism, in their worship. Except that in the Gospels (& even in Acts), Our Lord Jesus Performed exorcisms, as did His Apostles. |
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 22, 2023 22:34:55 GMT
Exorcisms were originally used to clean out pagan worship spaces of the old gods and spirits whom the Church identified as evil spirits whose adherents employed astrology, magically incantations, necromancy, mathematics and science, etc, that is things originally forbidden in Judaism, in their worship. Except that in the Gospels (& even in Acts), Our Lord Jesus Performed exorcisms, as did His Apostles. But he cleared Hebrew spirits. |
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 23, 2023 11:23:27 GMT
All the musicians are in Hell... so hardly surprising.
I thought this was common knowledge.
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Post by amyghost on Jan 23, 2023 14:10:25 GMT
That's a great point, Fr. Jack. I think it's made clearer in the book (or at least it's less obscured by the images of spinning heads and flying pea soup, per the film) that Regan's possession is the instrument to test Karras and not the chief raison d'etre of the story. People do forget that, or sometimes tend to miss the point.
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Post by paulslaugh on Jan 23, 2023 15:15:29 GMT
That's a great point, Fr. Jack. I think it's made clearer in the book (or at least it's less obscured by the images of spinning heads and flying pea soup, per the film) that Regan's possession is the instrument to test Karras and not the chief raison d'etre of the story. People do forget that, or sometimes tend to miss the point. I think the demon is ultimately after Father Marin. It possesses Regan near a Jesuit university in the likelihood Marin’s order will call him up. But it will need Karas’s body after it kills the exorcist and needs to prime him first. Regan’s possession occurs due to her innocence, but her little body is giving out and the demon needs a new home. While his faith is diminished, Karas could mistake his possessed condition as insanity and kill himself before the demon can take control. It needs Karas to be in a state of faith, then to destroy him via his faith. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 23, 2023 15:39:15 GMT
All the musicians are in Hell... so hardly surprising. I thought this was common knowledge. Maybe not all of them. Some are more likely than others, like David Crosby for example. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Jan 23, 2023 15:44:07 GMT
That's a great point, Fr. Jack. I think it's made clearer in the book (or at least it's less obscured by the images of spinning heads and flying pea soup, per the film) that Regan's possession is the instrument to test Karras and not the chief raison d'etre of the story. People do forget that, or sometimes tend to miss the point. I think the demon is ultimately after Father Marin. It possesses Regan near a Jesuit university in the likelihood Marin’s order will call him up. But it will need Karas’s body after it kills the exorcist and needs to prime him first. Regan’s possession occurs due to her innocence, but her little body is giving out and the demon needs a new home. While his faith is diminished, Karas could mistake his possessed condition as insanity and kill himself before the demon can take control. It needs Karas to be in a state of faith, then to destroy him via his faith. I've never seen the movie nor read the book. But this explanation has helped me to form an opinion about it, and this is the sort of thing that used to happen on the old IMDb when movies were discussed on the message boards. I miss that aspect here. Here people mostly list their favorites, some using a common actor or theme, but no one ever goes into depth about what the movie was intended to say, and I think that is an important thing to discuss. I don't care as much about ratings as "what was it about?" I do notice things about movies other than what it is about, such as cinematography, music and other things, but the central point of it is more interesting than just how other people rate it. Just my humble opinion. |
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 23, 2023 15:44:53 GMT
All the musicians are in Hell... so hardly surprising. I thought this was common knowledge. Maybe not all of them. Some are more likely than others, like David Crosby for example. All the bad musicians are in Heaven. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 23, 2023 15:46:47 GMT
Maybe not all of them. Some are more likely than others, like David Crosby for example. All the bad musicians are in Heaven. Possibly. I'll know if I get there. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2023 23:29:45 GMT
Even more interesting is why a priest should be sent to Hell, even for a visit. Any guesses?  Was the priest getting over friendly with the alter boys? |
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Post by amyghost on Jan 24, 2023 1:18:52 GMT
Even more interesting is why a priest should be sent to Hell, even for a visit. Any guesses? Was the priest getting over friendly with the alter boys? You just won Bingo Night, my friend. |
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