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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 24, 2023 21:29:17 GMT
I'd like to know your thoughts on the recent Best Actress Academy Award nomination given to Andrea Riseborough for her performance in the film To Leslie. I haven't seen the movie yet, though the trailer looks good and I've read some good reviews of her performance. The controversy surrounds the fact that many believe the last-minute, lightning campaign pushing her for a nomination seems highly inauthentic. This is a movie that came out almost a full year ago and made ~$23,000 at the box office, that many critics never saw much less the general public, and which was completely ignored during awards season up until this nomination. Reports say that Riseborough sunk her own cash into the 11th hour campaign, with a considerable assist by her talent agency, CAA, to rally support behind her.
There are many screenshots out there showing copied & pasted tweets by a bunch of celebrities in the past few weeks not only asking their "fellow Academy members" to vote for her, but specifically instructing them to vote for her in the #1 spot in their ranked choice voting to guarantee she'd make the cut. There are also many copied & pasted tweets by celebrities using identical language to praise the film. ("Small film with a giant heart" has all but become a meme on some subreddits due to the phrase being used by so many of these people.) So, you have an actress that is wholly ignored by awards bodies until an astroturf campaign that she funded herself pushed her towards the front of the pack.
A further bit of controversy is that two black actresses who at one time were seen as "sure things" for a nomination did NOT ended up making the list: Viola Davis for the Woman King and Danielle Deadwyler for Till. Rightly or wrongly, the feeling among some people is that Riseborough's surprise nomination essentially knocked one of these women from the list.
Edited: a word
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Post by hi224 on Jan 24, 2023 21:32:02 GMT
I'd like to know your thoughts on the recent Best Actress Academy Award nomination given to Andrea Riseborough for her performance in the film To Leslie. I haven't seen the movie yet, though the trailer looks good and I've read some good reviews of her performance. The controversy surrounds the fact that many believe the last-minute, lightning campaign pushing her for a nomination seems highly inauthentic. This is a movie that came out almost a full year ago and made ~$23,000 at the box office, that many critics never saw much less the general public, and which was completely ignored during awards season up until this nomination. Reports say that Riseborough sunk her own cash into the 11th hour campaign, with a considerable assist by her talent agency, CAA, to rally support behind her. There are many screenshots out there showing copied & pasted tweets by a bunch of celebrities in the past few weeks not only asking their "fellow Academy members" to vote for her, but specifically instructing them to vote for her in the #1 spot in their ranked choice voting to guarantee she'd make the cut. There are also many copied & pasted tweets by celebrities using identical language to praise the film. ("Small film with a big heart" has all but become a meme on some subreddits due to the phrase being used by so many of these people.) So, you have an actress that is wholly ignored by awards bodies until an astroturf campaign that she funded herself pushed her towards the front of the pack. A further bit of controversy is that two black actresses who at one time were seen as "sure things" for a nomination did NOT ended up making the list: Viola Davis for the Woman King and Danielle Deadwyler for Till. Rightly or wrongly, the feeling among some people is that Riseborough's surprise nomination essentially knocked one of these women from the list. A very well deserved nomination and if you could sub Williams for Wei, I mean it'd be a perfect lineup. |
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 24, 2023 21:34:03 GMT
She gives my favorite performance of the entire year. It is a fantastic performance.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jan 24, 2023 21:37:17 GMT
People actually cares about the Oscars?
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Post by jcush on Jan 24, 2023 21:45:37 GMT
I think that people having to campaign in order to get nominated is stupid, so if this is true, I find it funny that people are mad that she simply played their stupid little campaign game better than the people who didn't get nominated.
As for the performance itself, I thought Riseborough was terrific and she's my personal win for best actress of last year.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 24, 2023 21:48:19 GMT
I think that people having to campaign in order to get nominated is stupid, so if this is true, I find it funny that people are mad that she simply played their stupid little campaign game better than the people who didn't get nominated. As for the performance itself, I thought Riseborough was terrific and she's my personal win for best actress of last year. Mind you, it's also important for basically what the nomination represents as well, smaller films have a better chance. |
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 25, 2023 0:03:48 GMT
I actually just watched it. Good performance, pretty good movie. Personally, I'd say that I don't like the way she got to the nomination, but I can't begrudge her being nominated.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 25, 2023 0:05:22 GMT
People actually cares about the Oscars? I remember someone saying that if you show me someone who says they don't care about the Oscars, I'll show you someone who will be complaining the day after the Oscars that the movies they wanted to win didn't win. |
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 25, 2023 0:12:30 GMT
I think that people having to campaign in order to get nominated is stupid... This when affair has had people bringing up past notable "campaigns": - Harvey Weinstein funding a negative campaign against Saving Private Ryan so people would vote for Shakespeare in Love instead. - Kevin Spacey schmoozing aging Academy voters at retirement homes when American Beauty came out. - Melissa Leo self-funding a campaign, complete with a rather silly photoshoot. - Ann Dowd spending her own money to send out tons of screeners of Compliance. In the first three cases, it paid off with nominations and wins. Ann Dowd struck out. |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jan 25, 2023 0:13:30 GMT
People actually cares about the Oscars? I remember someone saying that if you show me someone who says they don't care about the Oscars, I'll show you someone who will be complaining the day after the Oscars that the movies they wanted to win didn't win. Well who ever said that is wrong. |
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Jan 25, 2023 1:09:55 GMT
People actually cares about the Oscars? I remember someone saying that if you show me someone who says they don't care about the Oscars, I'll show you someone who will be complaining the day after the Oscars that the movies they wanted to win didn't win. I've never taken Oscars seriously. It's a popularity contest and in no way a barometer for quality. For "fun" sakes, you sometimes root for the movie or actor you like, like how you root for your favourite sports team. |
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Post by Lux on Jan 25, 2023 1:35:16 GMT
She played a two bit love interest in Oblivion for fucks sakes she's not Vito Corleone.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 25, 2023 2:45:26 GMT
She played a two bit love interest in Oblivion for fucks sakes she's not Vito Corleone. No, but she's repped by one of the most powerful talent agencies and she has an apparently notable, influential agent. Further reading makes clear that the director of the film and his wife are vets of the business who have reportedly reached out to their Hollywood friends to aid in the campaign. As I said in one of my above posts, I've since seen the movie and actually am not upset that she got the nomination. It's more of a critique of the METHOD by which she got it. A bunch of actors suddenly spamming social media with nearly identical tweets in support of a nomination is reminiscent of those videos of newscasts across the country all reading identical copy. A little creepy. And the "she just played the game better" argument is a slippery slope for me. It feels like the way sports cheats often claim they only cheated because everyone else was cheating and so they just cheated better. In general, I'd like to move towards a state where movies and people get nominated because they did a great job and not because they outplayed everyone else. |
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Post by lune7000 on Jan 25, 2023 3:06:36 GMT
Only weak minded people care who wins a popularity contest
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Post by Phoenix101 on Jan 26, 2023 9:08:26 GMT
Only weak minded people care who wins a popularity contest You reek of white privilege. |
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Post by vegalyra on Jan 26, 2023 12:21:10 GMT
I gave up on the Oscars after Saving Private Ryan lost.
That said, this is pretty funny if true. The Oblivion girl out gamed the system.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jan 27, 2023 10:22:42 GMT
Is there actually a controversy about her nomination, or is the controversy only in OPs head?
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 28, 2023 3:30:15 GMT
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 28, 2023 3:36:32 GMT
I'd like to know your thoughts on the recent Best Actress Academy Award nomination given to Andrea Riseborough for her performance in the film To Leslie. I haven't seen the movie yet, though the trailer looks good and I've read some good reviews of her performance. The controversy surrounds the fact that many believe the last-minute, lightning campaign pushing her for a nomination seems highly inauthentic. This is a movie that came out almost a full year ago and made ~$23,000 at the box office, that many critics never saw much less the general public, and which was completely ignored during awards season up until this nomination. Reports say that Riseborough sunk her own cash into the 11th hour campaign, with a considerable assist by her talent agency, CAA, to rally support behind her. There are many screenshots out there showing copied & pasted tweets by a bunch of celebrities in the past few weeks not only asking their "fellow Academy members" to vote for her, but specifically instructing them to vote for her in the #1 spot in their ranked choice voting to guarantee she'd make the cut. There are also many copied & pasted tweets by celebrities using identical language to praise the film. ("Small film with a giant heart" has all but become a meme on some subreddits due to the phrase being used by so many of these people.) So, you have an actress that is wholly ignored by awards bodies until an astroturf campaign that she funded herself pushed her towards the front of the pack. A further bit of controversy is that two black actresses who at one time were seen as "sure things" for a nomination did NOT ended up making the list: Viola Davis for the Woman King and Danielle Deadwyler for Till. Rightly or wrongly, the feeling among some people is that Riseborough's surprise nomination essentially knocked one of these women from the list. Edited: a word She wasn't completely ignored by awards before the Oscars btw. She did receive an Independent Spirit Award nomination and a Chicago Film Critics Award nomination. |
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 28, 2023 3:43:22 GMT
Is there actually a controversy about her nomination, or is the controversy only in OPs head? There is now an investigation into her campaign by the Academy. The director and his wife both enlisting famous friends to blast the movie out on social media with prewritten praise was sketchy. The fact that a bunch of the celebrities praising it so vehemently just happen to be represented by Riseborough's talent agency also looks shady. Now, there's an issue where the official Instagram may have broken an Academy rule wherein a campaign is not supposed to directly reference other nominees. (The Instagram page included a quote by a critic that implies Riseborough's performance was superior to Cate Blanchett's in Tar.) An article I read mentions a songwriter who had their nomination rescinded for breaking a rule by emailing members of the music branch of the Academy to "remind" them of his nomination. So, there seems to be a precedent for nominations being taken away for rules violations. Having said all that, she did give a great performance and I hope they keep her in, even though her nomination will always tarnished now. |
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