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Post by hi224 on Jan 24, 2023 22:21:04 GMT
In relation to the whole film.
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Post by timshelboy on Jan 24, 2023 22:25:13 GMT
I haven't seen it for some 50 years but even then I thought it was a little suspect - still, if MGM could give us mass abduction of women in SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS then a film about the grooming of young, nubile concubines is but a small leap.... 5/10
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Post by claudius on Jan 24, 2023 22:47:20 GMT
Yes. I like the film.
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 24, 2023 22:56:35 GMT
I like it very much.
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Post by Catman on Jan 24, 2023 23:19:06 GMT
Catman likes the film.
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Post by Old Aussie on Jan 24, 2023 23:20:14 GMT
I haven't seen it for some 50 years but even then I thought it was a little suspect - still, if MGM could give us mass abduction of women in SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS then a film about the grooming of young, nubile concubines is but a small leap.... 5/10 Gee, I could have written exactly this. But probably a rating around 3/10. I DO recall some nice musical moments - I Remember it Well (also the title of Minnelli's autobiography if I recall correctly)
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Post by marianne48 on Jan 25, 2023 0:20:39 GMT
The seven brides allowed themselves to be "won" by the brothers. Underage Gigi being pimped out by that nasty relative Gingold was just creepy. Chevalier doing his lecherous old cartoon Frenchman routine didn't help. Caron and Jourdan deserved better material than this junk.
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jan 25, 2023 0:32:16 GMT
Pretty movie ... a few nice songs which are best seen as clips sans movie plot .... so other than that, "no".
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Post by lune7000 on Jan 25, 2023 2:44:48 GMT
The stereotype of the 50's is the square Leave it to Beaver image of old fashioned values. This is supposedly destroyed by the immoral 60's, Women's Lib, divorces, etc.
But an awful lot of film of the 50's glamorizes old men getting with young hotties or becoming playboys. I am now inclined to think that men broke up the family more than women did- by having affairs. Old men of the 50's began the sexual revolution. There is a lot of moral rot I now see in the 50's and films such as Gigi.
I always liked Life with Father (1947)- the guy is so proper and decent that his teenage son is mentally blocked from making out with a girl b/c he's wearing his dad's suit! I wish this kind of guy was celebrated more in film- not the playboy.
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Post by claudius on Jan 25, 2023 12:37:03 GMT
The seven brides allowed themselves to be "won" by the brothers. Underage Gigi being pimped out by that nasty relative Gingold was just creepy. Chevalier doing his lecherous old cartoon Frenchman routine didn't help. Caron and Jourdan deserved better material than this junk. Actually it was the Aunt who pressed the grooming. Although Grandma Gingold is initially supportive to that goal & initially shocked at Gigi’s refusal, she comes to understanding and supporting her wish to lead a more stable relationship.
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Post by louise on Jan 25, 2023 19:02:17 GMT
I quite like it, as musicals go it isn’t bad. It’s the sort of film I’d watch if it came on the tv and there was nothing else I particularly wanted to watch.
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Post by louise on Jan 25, 2023 19:05:23 GMT
The seven brides allowed themselves to be "won" by the brothers. Underage Gigi being pimped out by that nasty relative Gingold was just creepy. Chevalier doing his lecherous old cartoon Frenchman routine didn't help. Caron and Jourdan deserved better material than this junk. The seven girls were forcibly abducted as I remember it. Gigi was not under age in France at the turn of the last century, which is where the story is set. Age of consent was thirteen then, raised to fifteen in 1945. Gigi is fifteen.
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Post by louise on Jan 25, 2023 19:34:34 GMT
The stereotype of the 50's is the square Leave it to Beaver image of old fashioned values. This is supposedly destroyed by the immoral 60's, Women's Lib, divorces, etc. But an awful lot of film of the 50's glamorizes old men getting with young hotties or becoming playboys. I am now inclined to think that men broke up the family more than women did- by having affairs. Old men of the 50's began the sexual revolution. There is a lot of moral rot I now see in the 50's and films such as Gigi. I always liked Life with Father (1947)- the guy is so proper and decent that his teenage son is mentally blocked from making out with a girl b/c he's wearing his dad's suit! I wish this kind of guy was celebrated more in film- not the playboy. Gaston falls in love with Gigi though and marries her. So he’s creating a family rather than breaking one up.
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Post by Catman on Jan 25, 2023 19:35:28 GMT
The stereotype of the 50's is the square Leave it to Beaver image of old fashioned values. This is supposedly destroyed by the immoral 60's, Women's Lib, divorces, etc. But an awful lot of film of the 50's glamorizes old men getting with young hotties or becoming playboys. I am now inclined to think that men broke up the family more than women did- by having affairs. Old men of the 50's began the sexual revolution. There is a lot of moral rot I now see in the 50's and films such as Gigi. I always liked Life with Father (1947)- the guy is so proper and decent that his teenage son is mentally blocked from making out with a girl b/c he's wearing his dad's suit! I wish this kind of guy was celebrated more in film- not the playboy. Gaston falls in love with Gigi though and marries her. So he’s creating a family rather than breaking one up. As Catman sees the situation, Gigi takes on the system and wins.
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Post by divtal on Jan 25, 2023 20:35:13 GMT
"As Catman sees the situation, Gigi takes on the system and wins."
Agreed. Gigi knew what ... and whom ... she wanted. She was given the "tools," of-the-day. She learned them, then adapted them to the manner that she thought more appropriate, and effective.
You go, girl!
It's been decades since I've seen it. About 15 years ago, I started seeing critical comments about Maurice Chevalier's "Thank Heaven for Little Girls," as being "creepy," to "offensive." NONSENSE!
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Post by Penn Guinn on Jan 25, 2023 21:43:14 GMT
... I started seeing critical comments about Maurice Chevalier's "Thank Heaven for Little Girls," as being "creepy," to "offensive." NONSENSE!Beat me to it and said it better than I was going to !
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Post by politicidal on Jan 26, 2023 0:14:43 GMT
Actually hadn't seen it yet.
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Post by kijii on Jan 26, 2023 14:04:17 GMT
Best musical based upon the grooming of a whore.
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Post by Archelaus on Jan 29, 2023 21:01:23 GMT
I watched the film on TCM when I was in my late teens, and I thought it was a charming romantic musical without thinking too deeply into it. However, I was a tad confused at the depicted subject matter of Gigi being groomed to be a "mistress" (a word I only knew of women involved in extramarital affairs) for Gaston.
Regardless, Vincente Minnelli always directed some of the best musicals during that time, and it looked like a handsome production with class and elegance. Upon reflection, there were much better films like Vertigo, Touch of Evil, and The Big Country that deserved a Best Picture nomination. I still like the film, but this is not one of my favorite among Minnelli's films.
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