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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 26, 2023 17:24:56 GMT
How do you identify?
Perhaps I should have added, Be Kind to All Sentient Beings, which includes animals and the environment. I would have checked that, too.
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Post by Catman on Feb 26, 2023 17:32:23 GMT
Still an atheist.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Feb 26, 2023 18:03:33 GMT
Agnostic Atheist
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 26, 2023 18:20:07 GMT
You can select up to 4 choices, to further describe your individual viewpoint! I would suspect you would agree with this one that didn't make it on to the poll (It's still early for me, not enough caffeine yet!) Be Kind to All Sentient Beings. |
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Post by amyghost on Feb 26, 2023 19:08:31 GMT
You can select up to 4 choices, to further describe your individual viewpoint! I would suspect you would agree with this one that didn't make it on to the poll (It's still early for me, not enough caffeine yet!) Be Kind to All Sentient Beings.That should be the world One True Religion, Rachel. I pretty much identify as atheist/agnostic (I tend to find the whole 'does God exist' thing increasingly sophomoric as I get older, because there's simply no way of knowing), but the quote attributed to Abe Lincoln-- "When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion"--is for me as good a credo as anyone should need to try and live a right life on the most fundamental level. |
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Post by gadreel on Feb 26, 2023 19:09:10 GMT
I put down Christian Theist, I think that is the most accurate, it's a pretty wide net though
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Post by general313 on Feb 26, 2023 19:36:04 GMT
Atheist.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 26, 2023 21:07:47 GMT
I put down Christian Theist, I think that is the most accurate, it's a pretty wide net though You can click up to four things, to further define your views! |
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Post by gadreel on Feb 26, 2023 21:40:14 GMT
I put down Christian Theist, I think that is the most accurate, it's a pretty wide net though You can click up to four things, to further define your views! Im comfortable enough, with Christian Theist, it's accurate, it just maybe does not reflect a few nuances  |
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Post by The Lost One on Feb 27, 2023 14:24:34 GMT
Depends what day you ask me. Having said that, I'm not sure any of these really fit me. I see myself as more of a general agnostic rather than an agnostic atheist.
Secular Humanism always seems a bit vague and ill-supported (in that there's no really justification as to why one should be a humanist other than it just fits our current outlook anyway - in which case why add all the ceremony to it?).
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 27, 2023 16:20:10 GMT
Humanist would be the best choice, yet humans are also their own worst enemy. What is human and how is it defined? Good point. Often humans do very inhumane things, to other humans and to other living creatures. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 27, 2023 20:06:44 GMT
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Post by The Lost One on Feb 28, 2023 14:44:23 GMT
I think it's interesting to note the subtle differences between these variations: - The Confucian, Buddhist and Zoroastrian ones are essentially negative. It's basically 'don't do anything unpleasant to others' but doesn't encourage you to do anything pleasant for others. The Christian one on the other hand is positive encouraging you to do pleasant things for others. - The Jewish one is more focused on attitudes to one another - loving your neighbour as yourself will presumably make you do nice things for them and not hurt them but the focus is on that initial attitude rather than the actions per se. The Muslim one is similar except it goes a step further with expecting you to wish good things on others (but again doesn't go so far as to tell you to give them these things) - The Hindu one is a bit odd. It could be read as saying essentially the same thing as the Muslim one or it could be understood as saying that helping others is good for the helper too. |
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Post by clusium on Feb 28, 2023 15:15:29 GMT
I think it's interesting to note the subtle differences between these variations: - The Confucian, Buddhist and Zoroastrian ones are essentially negative. It's basically 'don't do anything unpleasant to others' but doesn't encourage you to do anything pleasant for others. The Christian one on the other hand is positive encouraging you to do pleasant things for others. - The Jewish one is more focused on attitudes to one another - loving your neighbour as yourself will presumably make you do nice things for them and not hurt them but the focus is on that initial attitude rather than the actions per se. The Muslim one is similar except it goes a step further with expecting you to wish good things on others (but again doesn't go so far as to tell you to give them these things) - The Hindu one is a bit odd. It could be read as saying essentially the same thing as the Muslim one or it could be understood as saying that helping others is good for the helper too. Which is also the Christian one as well. |
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Post by The Lost One on Feb 28, 2023 15:35:42 GMT
I was reading the Wikipedia page on the Golden Rule and it suggest that while there are indeed countless variations before that which appears in Matthew's Gospel, that one seems to be the first to phrase it in a positive manner so that's an interesting innovation in Christianity. Seneca arguably pipped it to the post though his version is more about how you should treat your slaves rather than a general moral rule.
Mohammed also seems to have used positive variations of the Golden Rule in the Hadith. A positive variant also appears in Scientology of all things.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 28, 2023 16:56:50 GMT
I was reading the Wikipedia page on the Golden Rule and it suggest that while there are indeed countless variations before that which appears in Matthew's Gospel, that one seems to be the first to phrase it in a positive manner so that's an interesting innovation in Christianity. Seneca arguably pipped it to the post though his version is more about how you should treat your slaves rather than a general moral rule. Mohammed also seems to have used positive variations of the Golden Rule in the Hadith. A positive variant also appears in Scientology of all things. Interesting, I will go check that out. I have a hand lettered paper that covers more, like the Egyptians, but Wikipedia is always interesting! That was unexpected.  Edit: I went to Wikipedia, and it was very interesting, that this idea of reciprocity is in virtually every religion and in secular context as well. Link to follow... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule |
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Post by mikef6 on Mar 7, 2023 16:13:37 GMT
Humanist, secular humanist, atheist. Although not a scientist, I believe in science. I believe in Reality. I believe history was created entirely by humanity. I do not believe in the supernatural or a Higher Being at any point. No ghosts. No spirits. No soul. No life after death. No UFOs. No gremlins. No leprechauns. No pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I believe in a short life to make the most of and then death. After death you go where you were before birth. Nowhere. You don't exist. Is this despairing? Is it sad? I don't think so. I think it is just how the universe works.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 7, 2023 16:28:53 GMT
Humanist, secular humanist, atheist. Although not a scientist, I believe in science. I believe in Reality. I believe history was created entirely by humanity. I do not believe in the supernatural or a Higher Being at any point. No ghosts. No spirits. No soul. No life after death. No UFOs. No gremlins. No leprechauns. No pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I believe in a short life to make the most of and then death. After death you go where you were before birth. Nowhere. You don't exist. Is this despairing? Is it sad? I don't think so. I think it is just how the universe works. Well said! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 16:42:31 GMT
Humanist, secular humanist, atheist. Although not a scientist, I believe in science. I believe in Reality. I believe history was created entirely by humanity. I do not believe in the supernatural or a Higher Being at any point. No ghosts. No spirits. No soul. No life after death. No UFOs. No gremlins. No leprechauns. No pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I believe in a short life to make the most of and then death. After death you go where you were before birth. Nowhere. You don't exist. Is this despairing? Is it sad? I don't think so. I think it is just how the universe works. Steady on... "No leprechauns"? Sure as leipreacháns are as real as banshees. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 7, 2023 19:36:43 GMT
Humanist, secular humanist, atheist. Although not a scientist, I believe in science. I believe in Reality. I believe history was created entirely by humanity. I do not believe in the supernatural or a Higher Being at any point. No ghosts. No spirits. No soul. No life after death. No UFOs. No gremlins. No leprechauns. No pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I believe in a short life to make the most of and then death. After death you go where you were before birth. Nowhere. You don't exist. Is this despairing? Is it sad? I don't think so. I think it is just how the universe works. Steady on... "No leprechauns"? Sure as leipreacháns are as real as banshees. I've heard that leprechauns can be a bit naughty; are you SURE you want to keep them, lol? Now, spirits... I regularly enjoy spirits, out of a bottle. So it can be said that I am spiritual. And I follow the Golden Rule. Just my inclination on how we should treat others.  |
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