OT: Incident in London Bridge

the eternal debate that usual depends on timing.

lets just kill religion .

i would support banning all religion in all schools - bar maybe history and current affairs that have brought on current tragedy .

this of course sounds harsh - And i will sound harsh today because one of my regular areas i live in has been attacked. - but yeah stop allowing uk kids to cut christan historty and pray to allah instead - just cut it all bar a non biased religious based subject, that explains the control , money and that ideology that has no basis on science(we can teach morality through science - that we help our planet, animals and fellow humans to maintain our world) is bad- we could mention some good/grey areas , that perhaps a poor society could require A promise of an afterlife - or even if we didnt it could have been a reasoning to make people on the whole less criminal... , but no one in school gets to pray, no one in school gets taught about the OT the NT or the quran. no religious schools at all.
a level or degree if you want to get into it as a field of study - but dont influence kids undeveloped brains in subjects(religion) that has zero evidence)

On another day i would say that tactic is oppressive and thought control. I would relate it to the way Germans are taught to day in such length about how bad the Nazi Party became. I think we should educate to learn from our mistakes but so it does not makes us oppressed drones IN ARTISTIC freedom of speech/thought. i think gentle teaching that makes sense aND LOGICAL SENSE allows us as humans to make up our own morality (good) but maybe slightly individuall. i dont think anything should be drummed down our necks.

the problem is so may Islamic familys in the UK are very strict - and many of them thrive and do really well fro themselves
- and have a good life - yet are very religious and very strick and never get involved in football etc -

then you look at white working class kids in the same council houses - wearing barely anything and drinking , taking drugs and havving sex and blah blah, the asian population( could be very nice people , or oppressive (sharia or worse) will say - what is the way to grow up - our way? or there scummy way?

how can you fight that. We cannot force parents int raising children a certain way?

we have to at least deal with it for the time in school the kids have- in a very secular and progressive way - make kids question wy there mum is a drunk , make asian kids question where is the proof in this book?

dont allow kids to be there parents - never stop people questioning. up education standards.

Violence rules OK

It's a global phenomenon. Cities in other countries are being subjected to "Terrorist incidents" and this in turn is getting the juices of crazies everywhere going ballistic. Any deranged nutter with firearms is now targeting malls and other crowded area, shouting Allah Akbar or something that sounds similar and lets rip for his 15 minutes. He may or may not be a terrorist but he wants to join the party. What else is the sad fucker got to do with his life ?
There's a lot of hostility and resentment out there.