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Post by Nostalgias4Geeks🌈 on Jun 4, 2017 10:49:33 GMT
Just got into an argument with someone about it. I think they should be upfront about it right off. I think it's deceiving if they aren't. Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 20:02:58 GMT
If you have no intentions of wanting a family and a reproductive system isn't relative, why
would it matter?
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Post by gameboy on Jun 5, 2017 5:25:11 GMT
If you're merely going to dinner then one doesn't have tell their date their entire life story.
If you're just having promiscuous sex with someone one doesn't have to tell their date their whole life story.
It would only matter if things get serious.
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Post by bonerxmas on Jun 5, 2017 5:40:02 GMT
If you're merely going to dinner then one doesn't have tell their date their entire life story. If you're just having promiscuous sex with someone one doesn't have to tell their date their whole life story. It would only matter if things get serious. if youre having sex you dont want a warning shes got a dick in her panties? |
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Post by gameboy on Jun 5, 2017 5:45:55 GMT
If you're merely going to dinner then one doesn't have tell their date their entire life story. If you're just having promiscuous sex with someone one doesn't have to tell their date their whole life story. It would only matter if things get serious. if youre having sex you dont want a warning shes got a dick in her panties? The distinction would be pre-op or post-op. Let me just say I'm against sex change surgery and genital mutilation as a matter of principle. But if they're post-op it doesn't matter if they tell their one night stand their whole life story. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 5, 2017 10:27:01 GMT
A trannie thinks and identifies as a female. They may not see it as being deceiving if they don't tell their date with the anticipation of sex. What they need to do, is tell their date they are mentally ill. But then again, it is usually pretty obvious that a person is a trannie. If some guy can't tell, he is either thick, or just in denial and wants the date and sex.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 5, 2017 10:28:22 GMT
If you're merely going to dinner then one doesn't have tell their date their entire life story. If you're just having promiscuous sex with someone one doesn't have to tell their date their whole life story. It would only matter if things get serious. if youre having sex you dont want a warning shes got a dick in her panties? if you're having sex you don't want a warning "he's" got a dick in his panties. |
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Post by Nostalgias4Geeks🌈 on Jun 5, 2017 22:54:56 GMT
if youre having sex you dont want a warning shes got a dick in her panties? if you're having sex you don't want a warning "he's" got a dick in his panties. Yeah, wouldn't that be a bit odd? Oh hey, before we start.. i have a dick. Or even "I used to have a dick". Sounds like something someone might want to know before they start even dating another person. |
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Post by bd74 on Jun 6, 2017 0:19:38 GMT
How stupid does someone have to be that they can't tell that the person they are choosing to date is trans?  The totally passable "you would never guess that they were born the opposite sex" trans people are very, very rare. |
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Post by gameboy on Jun 6, 2017 0:52:13 GMT
If you're merely going to dinner then one doesn't have tell their date their entire life story. If you're just having promiscuous sex with someone one doesn't have to tell their date their whole life story. It would only matter if things get serious. if youre having sex you dont want a warning shes got a dick in her panties? I thought about this and I wanna change my answer. When you're having frivolous promiscuous sex with someone you don't know well, you have no right to be warned of anything. Should she have to tell him she has a scar on her right buttocks? Does he have to tell her beforehand he has a 5" dick? You get what you get. A trannie is not required to inform some guy she barely knows she has a dick. The guy just might like it anyway. Sex is best if it's spontaneous. A lot of talk discussion about it just kills it. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jun 6, 2017 13:03:44 GMT
if you're having sex you don't want a warning "he's" got a dick in his panties. Yeah, wouldn't that be a bit odd? Oh hey, before we start.. i have a dick. Or even "I used to have a dick". Sounds like something someone might want to know before they start even dating another person. I think it is only fair that a Trannie comes up front about it and they can't go screaming discrimination, if they are being deceitful. They are not genuine women\female, only in the manner they act. Like already mentioned though, any man that can't tell and goes there, must be incredibly stupid or don't really care. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 17:38:44 GMT
No because people are not products. I guess if they are already engaged in a relationship/marriage that is an act of deception.
If they are hiv positive then that should be made known obviously because it is a direct threat to biological health. Although if it is an asexual relationship it might not matter/never be brought up.
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Post by Blue on Jun 7, 2017 6:56:44 GMT
Just got into an argument with someone about it. I think they should be upfront about it right off. I think it's deceiving if they aren't. Thoughts? For their own safety, they should be upfront about it. Not blurt out OH HEY I'M TRANS to every single person they're attracted to. But definitely after meaningful (IN PERSON) conversation has taken place. If a person is cool with it, they're gonna be cool with it. If they're not cool with it, they'll either drag it out to avoid feeling bad, or they'll just bounce right away. It's better to get that out of the way at the beginning. I feel like it's similar when gay guys start dating. It's important to know what kind of sex they're looking for. Some guys are strictly bottom or top and it's frustrating to like a guy a lot but find out later on that he's sexually incompatible with you. So let's say a transwomen meets a guy she likes. That guy may find her attractive, but he's really into banging chicks with natural female genitalia. So even if she's post op, it's not gonna work out. On the other hand, a guy may be completely fine with a post op vagina, so long as there's no dick. And on the other, other hand, there may be a guy out there who is into chicks with dicks. It's a thing and they exist. It's better to be open about it to lessen the sting of rejection if it happens. |
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Post by The Lost One on Jun 28, 2017 13:41:31 GMT
If you're attracted enough to have sex with them then why should it matter what they used to be like? Say for instance you find redheads gross (which some people do). You sleep with someone with blond hair, then find out afterwards s/he is a natural redhead and dyes his/her hair. You might feel grossed out but would you expect the person in question to have told you beforehand she's is a natural redhead? Would you think s/he had "deceived" you? I doubt it. The only difference I see between a trans person and the person that's dyed their hair is society deems it more acceptable to be insecure about your gender preference than your hair-colour preference. Suppose for example you're a straight man who finds a transwoman attractive, say a particularly feminine transwoman like the actress Michelle Hendley:  Now suppose he slept with this transwoman and then found out she was trans and freaked out because he thinks "Oh no, I'm straight and yet I slept with a man!" Sounds like that's his ridiculous hangup rather than something the transwoman did wrong. He slept with someone he is attracted to. The person he slept with looks like other he has slept with or wanted to sleep with in the past. His horror is no more justifiable than finding out your latest sexual conquest dyes her hair or eats meet or voted Trump. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 2, 2017 5:49:37 GMT
If you're attracted enough to have sex with them then why should it matter what they used to be like? Say for instance you find redheads gross (which some people do). You sleep with someone with blond hair, then find out afterwards s/he is a natural redhead and dyes his/her hair. You might feel grossed out but would you expect the person in question to have told you beforehand she's is a natural redhead? Would you think s/he had "deceived" you? I doubt it. The only difference I see between a trans person and the person that's dyed their hair is society deems it more acceptable to be insecure about your gender preference than your hair-colour preference. Suppose for example you're a straight man who finds a transwoman attractive, say a particularly feminine transwoman like the actress Michelle Hendley: Now suppose he slept with this transwoman and then found out she was trans and freaked out because he thinks "Oh no, I'm straight and yet I slept with a man!" Sounds like that's his ridiculous hangup rather than something the transwoman did wrong. He slept with someone he is attracted to. The person he slept with looks like other he has slept with or wanted to sleep with in the past. His horror is no more justifiable than finding out your latest sexual conquest dyes her hair or eats meet or voted Trump. Lostkiera, what people find redheads gross? That is such a demeaning and juvenile thing to say. "Gross" in what way, just because they have red hair? Some people may not be as attracted to them as other colorings, but there may be people who find redheads an absolute turn on as opposed to say blondes. Sexual attraction is really all about dynamic and pheromones anyway.
You have made a valid point in regards to the hang-up about finding out after the fact his sexual partner was a trans; but to not know or tell they are trans, they must be incredibly dense. I am not straight, but I know that I have been attracted sexually to many differing forms, looks and features of the male body. Sometimes, it just might be what the person exudes as a personality. I can't really comment on why het males are allured to a female sexuality and what it is that turns them on, it leaves me cold; but it would be obvious the femininity of the trans person is what is causing the sexual desire in the partner. As far as I'm concerned though, trans are just overly flamboyant gay men who like to imitate women by dressing in drag. When they go down the op route, there are deeper psychology issues involved here.
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Post by The Lost One on Jul 2, 2017 9:13:30 GMT
Lostkiera, what people find redheads gross? That is such a demeaning and juvenile thing to say. "Gross" in what way, just because they have red hair? Some people may not be as attracted to them as other colorings, but there may be people who find redheads an absolute turn on as opposed to say blondes. Indeed. I'm not saying they are gross, I'm just saying there are people who really really find red hair unattractive. My point is that's their problem, not the redheads'. And the redheads shouldn't be expected to cater to it. There are transpeople who "pass" (hate that term but I guess it's relevant here) really well - Michelle Hendley for example. If you passed her on the street, would you know she's trans? But that's besides the point. Transpeople have been murdered because people have slept with them only to find out after they're trans. Whether the murderer was dense or not doesn't matter, he was never in any way justified in thinking he was tricked. The hang up was his which no transperson should have had to cater to. If you're attracted to someone you've attracted to them, end of story. Except no reputable doctors or psychiatrists agree with you there. Even those who are against helping people transition (which is a minority) don't believe transgenderism is just a form of homosexuality. And of course there are transwomen who date women or don't date at all. And transmen who date men or don't date at all. How do they fit in your narrative? |
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Post by PanLeo on Jul 2, 2017 9:46:16 GMT
Yes, some people might not be ok with it.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jul 2, 2017 11:12:37 GMT
Yes. Im sorry but I dont want a girlfriend with male genitalia.
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Post by hi224 on Jul 2, 2017 17:33:41 GMT
probably because you can't decipher what man is reasonable versus who will act very irrationally.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jul 3, 2017 9:22:23 GMT
Lostkiera, what people find redheads gross? That is such a demeaning and juvenile thing to say. "Gross" in what way, just because they have red hair? Some people may not be as attracted to them as other colorings, but there may be people who find redheads an absolute turn on as opposed to say blondes. Indeed. I'm not saying they are gross, I'm just saying there are people who really really find red hair unattractive. My point is that's their problem, not the redheads'. And the redheads shouldn't be expected to cater to it. There are transpeople who "pass" (hate that term but I guess it's relevant here) really well - Michelle Hendley for example. If you passed her on the street, would you know she's trans? But that's besides the point. Transpeople have been murdered because people have slept with them only to find out after they're trans. Whether the murderer was dense or not doesn't matter, he was never in any way justified in thinking he was tricked. The hang up was his which no transperson should have had to cater to. If you're attracted to someone you've attracted to them, end of story. Except no reputable doctors or psychiatrists agree with you there. Even those who are against helping people transition (which is a minority) don't believe transgenderism is just a form of homosexuality. And of course there are transwomen who date women or don't date at all. And transmen who date men or don't date at all. How do they fit in your narrative? But you did say that some people find redheads gross, not unattractive. I don't even know who Michelle Hendley is. It is understandable if a male who is attracted to women feels deceived and angry finding out that the person they are sleeping with used to be man. Technically they still are. Extreme violent behavior by straight males, that is instigated by repulsion of doing it with a male does bring up other issues, but ultimately, heterosexual men are physically attracted to the feminine as an external. They were expecting a woman, not some fake phony female. Not being straight, and feeling comfortable and sexually familiar with the gender I was born into, I am never going to get the sexual desire most males have for females, but then that is not the package I came with. As for what reputable doctors and psychiatrists think about TG, it doesn't fit into my narrative. I couldn't care less! They are pandering to them. TG is a mental illness, and the narcissistic self-image and self-loathing issues are what needs to be addressed. If a man wants to identify as a woman and play dress up fine, but when they start to want to physically change their bodies, that is a different ballgame all together. I don't even consider a TG a TG, unless they have the op and then these reputable doctors have a lot to answer for. Oh, yeah, its about money and making a name for themselves. TG shouldn't even be lumped in with the confounded LGB. It is not a sexuality. It is a scourge on many homosexual men, who do like and appreciate the gender they are born into. |
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