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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 31, 2023 15:32:07 GMT
Man (Peter Parker). Does representation really matter? Alonso never shut up about that but she’s gone now 👋 It makes you wonder how much better the MCU could have been without clowns like this. My white as anything ass wants to see Namor Namor is a core member of the Marvel Universe. But what about his latin version in the MCU?
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 1, 2023 0:04:06 GMT
I just might, if you list examples. But I doubt you will, without some silly double standards involved. Nah dude, you don't need to agree with my stance to admit that you had misunderstood or misrepresented my statement. Before I commit any more effort to conversing with you, I need to know that you're actually being objective about this and won't resort to underhanded tactics at the first opportunity. So all you need to do is admit that you had misunderstood my original post to show that you're willing to discuss in good faith. It's the truth after all, you did completely misinterpret what I said. All you need to do is acknowledge that mistake, then I can continue and provide the examples you're asking for. If you can't even bring yourself to do that then I know you're not willing to enter an honest conversation. I just might have misunderstood, if you give examples without showing you have some twisted double standards involved.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 1, 2023 0:13:55 GMT
Nah dude, you don't need to agree with my stance to admit that you had misunderstood or misrepresented my statement. Before I commit any more effort to conversing with you, I need to know that you're actually being objective about this and won't resort to underhanded tactics at the first opportunity. So all you need to do is admit that you had misunderstood my original post to show that you're willing to discuss in good faith. It's the truth after all, you did completely misinterpret what I said. All you need to do is acknowledge that mistake, then I can continue and provide the examples you're asking for. If you can't even bring yourself to do that then I know you're not willing to enter an honest conversation. I just might have misunderstood, if you give examples without showing you have some twisted double standards involved. You still don't get it. Admitting to your mistake has nothing to do with what another person might say or do in the future, it has to do with what you yourself have already said or done in the past. Admitting that you misunderstood what I said has nothing to do with any future examples I might give, it's all about you admitting that you were mistaken when you claimed I said "any diversity is automatically done due to a quota". You asked me to explain my side and I did so in good faith, pointing out why you were mistaken. Now I ask the same from you: admit that you were mistaken, then you can go back to asking stuff from me. That's how a conversation works, it's a two-way street. You can't be the only one who keeps getting to make demands. Sound fair?
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 1, 2023 2:17:48 GMT
I just might have misunderstood, if you give examples without showing you have some twisted double standards involved. You still don't get it. Admitting to your mistake has nothing to do with what another person might say or do in the future, it has to do with what you yourself have already said or done in the past. Admitting that you misunderstood what I said has nothing to do with any future examples I might give, it's all about you admitting that you were mistaken when you claimed I said "any diversity is automatically done due to a quota". You asked me to explain my side and I did so in good faith, pointing out why you were mistaken. Now I ask the same from you: admit that you were mistaken, then you can go back to asking stuff from me. That's how a conversation works, it's a two-way street. You can't be the only one who keeps getting to make demands. Sound fair? You still haven't given any examples of nonwhites that you don't automatically consider "forced". Ball is in your court.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 1, 2023 3:05:42 GMT
You still don't get it. Admitting to your mistake has nothing to do with what another person might say or do in the future, it has to do with what you yourself have already said or done in the past. Admitting that you misunderstood what I said has nothing to do with any future examples I might give, it's all about you admitting that you were mistaken when you claimed I said "any diversity is automatically done due to a quota". You asked me to explain my side and I did so in good faith, pointing out why you were mistaken. Now I ask the same from you: admit that you were mistaken, then you can go back to asking stuff from me. That's how a conversation works, it's a two-way street. You can't be the only one who keeps getting to make demands. Sound fair? You still haven't given any examples of nonwhites that you don't automatically consider "forced". Ball is in your court. I see you didn't actually read my post. Here let me highlight the important part for you: "You asked me to explain my side and I did so in good faith, pointing out why you were mistaken. Now I ask the same from you: admit that you were mistaken, then you can go back to asking stuff from me. That's how a conversation works, it's a two-way street. You can't be the only one who keeps getting to make demands. Sound fair? " So ball is in your court, dude. I answered your question now you answer mine. Once you admit you were mistaken I'll give you a handful of examples. If you can't do that much, then it means you're just trolling ain't you?
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 1, 2023 11:44:26 GMT
You still haven't given any examples of nonwhites that you don't automatically consider "forced". Ball is in your court. I see you didn't actually read my post. Here let me highlight the important part for you: "You asked me to explain my side and I did so in good faith, pointing out why you were mistaken. Now I ask the same from you: admit that you were mistaken, then you can go back to asking stuff from me. That's how a conversation works, it's a two-way street. You can't be the only one who keeps getting to make demands. Sound fair? " So ball is in your court, dude. I answered your question now you answer mine. Once you admit you were mistaken I'll give you a handful of examples. If you can't do that much, then it means you're just trolling ain't you? I'll admit I made a mistake when you give examples. Till then, I hold you to your quote which you shouldn't have written in the first place if you weren't going to justify yourself.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 1, 2023 14:56:56 GMT
I see you didn't actually read my post. Here let me highlight the important part for you: "You asked me to explain my side and I did so in good faith, pointing out why you were mistaken. Now I ask the same from you: admit that you were mistaken, then you can go back to asking stuff from me. That's how a conversation works, it's a two-way street. You can't be the only one who keeps getting to make demands. Sound fair? " So ball is in your court, dude. I answered your question now you answer mine. Once you admit you were mistaken I'll give you a handful of examples. If you can't do that much, then it means you're just trolling ain't you? I'll admit I made a mistake when you give examples. Till then, I hold you to your quote which you shouldn't have written in the first place if you weren't going to justify yourself. You'll hold me to my quote? The quote that you couldn't provide? Jeeze dude. I gave you a chance to have an honest conversation. I see now that you're incapable of having one. So be it. Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white."
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 1, 2023 18:37:20 GMT
I'll admit I made a mistake when you give examples. Till then, I hold you to your quote which you shouldn't have written in the first place if you weren't going to justify yourself. You'll hold me to my quote? The quote that you couldn't provide? Jeeze dude. I gave you a chance to have an honest conversation. I see now that you're incapable of having one. So be it. Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." I quoted exactly what you said.
If "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." isn't what you meant, then you should say otherwise with proof.
You haven't done anything to prove otherwise.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 1, 2023 19:28:58 GMT
You'll hold me to my quote? The quote that you couldn't provide? Jeeze dude. I gave you a chance to have an honest conversation. I see now that you're incapable of having one. So be it. Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." I quoted exactly what you said.
If "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." isn't what you meant, then you should say otherwise with proof.
You haven't done anything to prove otherwise.
I never said that. Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white."
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 1, 2023 23:09:12 GMT
I quoted exactly what you said.
If "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." isn't what you meant, then you should say otherwise with proof.
You haven't done anything to prove otherwise.
I never said that. Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." You literally wrote:
"It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
And never bothered explaining this thing about "quotas" and what your examples of "not forced" diversity were.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 10, 2023 17:27:32 GMT
I never said that. Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." You literally wrote:
"It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
And never bothered explaining this thing about "quotas" and what your examples of "not forced" diversity were.
Why are you quoting something different from what you're claiming? Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white."
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 10, 2023 23:34:47 GMT
You literally wrote:
"It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
And never bothered explaining this thing about "quotas" and what your examples of "not forced" diversity were.
Why are you quoting something different from what you're claiming? Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast" "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast" What did you mean by these statements, if not that?
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 11, 2023 6:47:35 GMT
Why are you quoting something different from what you're claiming? Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast" "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast" What did you mean by these statements, if not that? I still don't see those quotes dude. Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white."
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2023 14:55:51 GMT
"It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast" "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast" What did you mean by these statements, if not that? I still don't see those quotes dude. Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." You wrote "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
Which implies you think that's the only reason they could ever do so.
If not, then explain what you meant.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 11, 2023 15:05:28 GMT
I still don't see those quotes dude. Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." You wrote "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
Which implies you think that's the only reason they could ever do so.
If not, then explain what you meant.
Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white."
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2023 17:16:26 GMT
You wrote "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
Which implies you think that's the only reason they could ever do so.
If not, then explain what you meant.
Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." You wrote "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
You keep dodging the very easy answer of "Well what I meant to say was..."
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 11, 2023 18:14:21 GMT
Please QUOTE me on where I supposedly said "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason." Please QUOTE me exactly on where I supposedly said "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white." You wrote "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
You keep dodging the very easy answer of "Well what I meant to say was..."
Thank you for admitting to everyone here that you don't actually have proof of me saying this: "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason."Or this: "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white."I accept your concession.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 11, 2023 19:10:33 GMT
You wrote "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
You keep dodging the very easy answer of "Well what I meant to say was..."
Thank you for admitting to everyone here that you don't actually have proof of me saying this: "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason."Or this: "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white."I accept your concession. You wrote "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
Which is the same thing as either of those statements.
Unless you care to explain how it's not?
I mean, you won't but still...
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 12, 2023 1:34:19 GMT
Thank you for admitting to everyone here that you don't actually have proof of me saying this: "whenever any character of color is introduced, it must be due to quota and there can't be any other reason."Or this: "if a nonwhite shows up them it must automatically be because of some nonexistent "Diversity Quota" thing and not just because...the actor just happened to not be white."I accept your concession. You wrote "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
Which is the same thing as either of those statements.
Unless you care to explain how it's not?
I mean, you won't but still...
I already explained it to you. Wrote a really long explanation actually. Do you deny this?
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 12, 2023 3:21:54 GMT
You wrote "It's when you introduce a character of color for the simple reason of, "Hey, we need to make sure we hit our quota for having more people of color in the cast"
Which is the same thing as either of those statements.
Unless you care to explain how it's not?
I mean, you won't but still...
I already explained it to you. Wrote a really long explanation actually. Do you deny this? Explain again then. I don't recall you giving a real explanation.
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