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Post by kuatorises on Feb 22, 2017 20:33:36 GMT
A place to discuss The Matrix movies. Keanu Reeves has recently stated that he would have an interest in returning to the franchise under the right circumstances. I have to agree with his statement, but for different reasons. It would definitely have to be under the right circumstances. I think this is one of those franchises that are really wore out its welcome. It was extremely popular, but also seemed to nosedive after a few years. It would have to be made differently than the original trilogy. The slow mo would have to be used sparingly. Even the style of clothing would have to change. I don't think it would be taken seriously if it had the same look. You would also have to do something pretty different for there to be a reason to bring it back. It might actually be smart if there was a pretty healthy balance between the matrix in the real world – because you have to think a lot of people chose to be freed. It would almost be a primitive, but up-and-coming civilization in the real world, not just a single city. I am at least curious, but I don't know if there is enough interest in this franchise anymore. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 2:27:19 GMT
i agree. though i don't know if its worth returning to it, when the story has been told (& please no prequels  ). the first movie should have probably been on its own anyway, because its got its own ending that is sufficient. |
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Post by paislene on Feb 25, 2017 7:01:33 GMT
Although Keanu is now an older actor , and seems somewhat pretentious in his recent movies , this could still work .
If he and Carrie-Ann Moss (Trinity) could accept their older selves in such a reunion movie , with some of Kuatorises
ideas , this would work .
Of course , it would be in comparison eventually to Blade Runner 2049 , due out later in the year !    
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Feb 26, 2017 3:35:24 GMT
i would be very cool to revisiting this franchise again. though i've a lot of love for the original and the Animatrix, the sequels really did a number on my fanaticism.
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Post by floweryguy on Feb 26, 2017 18:19:39 GMT
First one is probably my all-time favourite movie.
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Post by PnkELee on Feb 26, 2017 19:04:59 GMT
The Matrix was cool but the story is over.
The story kind of fell apart in the 2nd movie, anyway.
Less philosophy. More techie jargon. Too literal. Strange.
I wouldnt mind a standalone prequel story,though Animatrix probably killed any chance of that. Still, I think theres a lot of toons material to flesh out.
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 27, 2017 17:51:38 GMT
I would not bring her back. Her character died and unlike Neo is a normal human being. |
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 27, 2017 18:56:13 GMT
i agree. though i don't know if its worth returning to it, when the story has been told (& please no prequels ). the first movie should have probably been on its own anyway, because its got its own ending that is sufficient. Neo's story has been told, but that is a world that is extremely rich and lends itself to an expanded universe. Like I said, it would have to be different and new in some way. I would probably make a healthy chunk – if not most of – the movie take place in the real world. Show a civilization that is somewhere between the primitive city of Zion and some futuristic machine built city. You also show machines and humans living amongst one another. I might take a page out of Ghost in the Shell 2 – meaning Neo would only be a supporting character and having died would have "evolved" into a different kind of life form. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 22:09:08 GMT
i agree. though i don't know if its worth returning to it, when the story has been told (& please no prequels ). the first movie should have probably been on its own anyway, because its got its own ending that is sufficient. Neo's story has been told, but that is a world that is extremely rich and lends itself to an expanded universe. Like I said, it would have to be different and new in some way. I would probably make a healthy chunk – if not most of – the movie take place in the real world. Show a civilization that is somewhere between the primitive city of Zion and some futuristic machine built city. You also show machines and humans living amongst one another. I might take a page out of Ghost in the Shell 2 – meaning Neo would only be a supporting character and having died would have "evolved" into a different kind of life form. or, have it feature a lone group of survivors far out on the periphery, learning how to survive in a harsh new reality. myths & legends would survive, Neo would be the new christ/ savior, with the Matrix being akin to some sort of purgatory or "paradise" for some. while the survivors try & stick together & make it in their place of solitude, the younger ones want to "return to paradise," & leave the safety of their home for the wastelands beyond... |
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Post by kuatorises on Feb 28, 2017 14:20:40 GMT
Neo's story has been told, but that is a world that is extremely rich and lends itself to an expanded universe. Like I said, it would have to be different and new in some way. I would probably make a healthy chunk – if not most of – the movie take place in the real world. Show a civilization that is somewhere between the primitive city of Zion and some futuristic machine built city. You also show machines and humans living amongst one another. I might take a page out of Ghost in the Shell 2 – meaning Neo would only be a supporting character and having died would have "evolved" into a different kind of life form. or, have it feature a lone group of survivors far out on the periphery, learning how to survive in a harsh new reality. myths & legends would survive, Neo would be the new christ/ savior, with the Matrix being akin to some sort of purgatory or "paradise" for some. while the survivors try & stick together & make it in their place of solitude, the younger ones want to "return to paradise," & leave the safety of their home for the wastelands beyond... Yeah, that's a pretty good idea too. I think there is a lot of Possibilities without having to worry about repeating storylines |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 1, 2017 22:13:31 GMT
Only if Alex Winters has a role.
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Post by bb15 on Mar 2, 2017 5:42:33 GMT
My problem with another Matrix sequel is that I have lost faith that the Wachowskis could do a decent job.
Revolutions had many problems but for me the Matrix trilogy/Animatrix was their glory days.
They were going to decline in the furture.
Such as with Speed Racer and Jupiter Ascending.
Cloud Atlas could have worked better as low budget indie film.
It's interesting but it bombed at the box office. Know your audience and make a film which fits that market.
I think they lost their way as film makers.
Imo at least, BB ;-)
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 15, 2017 15:36:23 GMT
My problem with another Matrix sequel is that I have lost faith that the Wachowskis could do a decent job. Revolutions had many problems but for me the Matrix trilogy/Animatrix was their glory days. They were going to decline in the furture. Such as with Speed Racer and Jupiter Ascending. Cloud Atlas could have worked better as low budget indie film. It's interesting but it bombed at the box office. Know your audience and make a film which fits that market. I think they lost their way as film makers. Imo at least, BB ;-) I knew you would make your way to this threat sooner or later. I thought Reloaded had more problems than Revolutions, but overall I actually like the series as a whole. I do think they were a little "too big" at times and created something of a "wore out there welcome" feelings towards the franchise. I never saw Speed Racer, Jupiter Ascending, or Cloud Atlas, but know they all bombed. Cloud Atlas did managed to get "okay" reviews. I think a part of their problem is that they try to make everything big and grand. I also think they are both a little nuts. It appears that something is happening. This was just announced yesterday. I would like to see a continuation of the universe, but not a complete remake. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 17:25:23 GMT
A place to discuss The Matrix movies. Keanu Reeves has recently stated that he would have an interest in returning to the franchise under the right circumstances. I have to agree with his statement, but for different reasons. It would definitely have to be under the right circumstances. I think this is one of those franchises that are really wore out its welcome. It was extremely popular, but also seemed to nosedive after a few years. It would have to be made differently than the original trilogy. The slow mo would have to be used sparingly. Even the style of clothing would have to change. I don't think it would be taken seriously if it had the same look. You would also have to do something pretty different for there to be a reason to bring it back. It might actually be smart if there was a pretty healthy balance between the matrix in the real world – because you have to think a lot of people chose to be freed. It would almost be a primitive, but up-and-coming civilization in the real world, not just a single city. I am at least curious, but I don't know if there is enough interest in this franchise anymore. What if you did something called "Matrix.0" or something or "Matrix Reboot" (Hey, there are sillier titles out there)... The computers have developed a new program and it looks/feels more like tech today. That way you could update it to modernize it, but it actually makes sense. Also, the new "One" finds out there were those before him. Neo shows up at the end setting up a crossover sequel where Neo is still in the Matrix. |
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 15, 2017 18:27:19 GMT
A place to discuss The Matrix movies. Keanu Reeves has recently stated that he would have an interest in returning to the franchise under the right circumstances. I have to agree with his statement, but for different reasons. It would definitely have to be under the right circumstances. I think this is one of those franchises that are really wore out its welcome. It was extremely popular, but also seemed to nosedive after a few years. It would have to be made differently than the original trilogy. The slow mo would have to be used sparingly. Even the style of clothing would have to change. I don't think it would be taken seriously if it had the same look. You would also have to do something pretty different for there to be a reason to bring it back. It might actually be smart if there was a pretty healthy balance between the matrix in the real world – because you have to think a lot of people chose to be freed. It would almost be a primitive, but up-and-coming civilization in the real world, not just a single city. I am at least curious, but I don't know if there is enough interest in this franchise anymore. What if you did something called "Matrix.0" or something or "Matrix Reboot" (Hey, there are sillier titles out there)... The computers have developed a new program and it looks/feels more like tech today. That way you could update it to modernize it, but it actually makes sense. Also, the new "One" finds out there were those before him. Neo shows up at the end setting up a crossover sequel where Neo is still in the Matrix. I am willing to give it a chance as long as it is not a remake. I think they're going to have to do something a little different than having a bunch of people suddenly realize they are trapped in a virtual reality world. It would be too much like the original. I do think there is a role for Neo, but I think he would have to play a supporting character. He did die after all, but it was implied because of the coding in his body that he might live on in another form. If they were going to bring him back, I would do it in a way where Neo has transcended or evolved into another life form. I can see him living amongst the machines. |
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Post by bb15 on Mar 16, 2017 1:12:57 GMT
My problem with another Matrix sequel is that I have lost faith that the Wachowskis could do a decent job. Revolutions had many problems but for me the Matrix trilogy/Animatrix was their glory days. They were going to decline in the furture. Such as with Speed Racer and Jupiter Ascending. Cloud Atlas could have worked better as low budget indie film. It's interesting but it bombed at the box office. Know your audience and make a film which fits that market. I think they lost their way as film makers. Imo at least, BB ;-) I knew you would make your way to this threat sooner or later. I thought Reloaded had more problems than Revolutions, but overall I actually like the series as a whole. I do think they were a little "too big" at times and created something of a "wore out there welcome" feelings towards the franchise. I never saw Speed Racer, Jupiter Ascending, or Cloud Atlas, but know they all bombed. Cloud Atlas did managed to get "okay" reviews. I think a part of their problem is that they try to make everything big and grand. I also think they are both a little nuts. It appears that something is happening. This was just announced yesterday. I would like to see a continuation of the universe, but not a complete remake. Interesting article from the Hollywood Reporter. Thanks for the link. www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/matrix-reboot-works-at-warner-bros-986292The studio (Warners) seems to be in a conflict. They don't want the Wachowskis to be involved in a new Matrix movie but Keanu Reeves won't be part of a reboot unless the Wachowskis write and direct. Big problem. Imo at least, BB ;-) |
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 16, 2017 19:00:04 GMT
I knew you would make your way to this threat sooner or later. I thought Reloaded had more problems than Revolutions, but overall I actually like the series as a whole. I do think they were a little "too big" at times and created something of a "wore out there welcome" feelings towards the franchise. I never saw Speed Racer, Jupiter Ascending, or Cloud Atlas, but know they all bombed. Cloud Atlas did managed to get "okay" reviews. I think a part of their problem is that they try to make everything big and grand. I also think they are both a little nuts. It appears that something is happening. This was just announced yesterday. I would like to see a continuation of the universe, but not a complete remake. Interesting article from the Hollywood Reporter. Thanks for the link. www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/matrix-reboot-works-at-warner-bros-986292The studio (Warners) seems to be in a conflict. They don't want the Wachowskis to be involved in a new Matrix movie but Keanu Reeves won't be part of a reboot unless the Wachowskis write and direct. Big problem. Imo at least, BB ;-) It's funny that you mentioned reluctant about any further movies because you feel the Wachowskis have lost their touch – and now they might not actually be involved. |
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Post by bb15 on Mar 18, 2017 0:12:31 GMT
It's funny that you mentioned reluctant about any further movies because you feel the Wachowskis have lost their touch – and now they might not actually be involved. I'll clarify. The big problem which I mentioned above is that Keanu Reeves won't be part of a Matrix film reboot. Imo at least, BB ;-) |
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Post by paislene on Mar 18, 2017 1:00:43 GMT
Personally , I'm a fan of their work , but possibly the movies have become out of date compared to Marvel or DC's new movies ?
Well if the Wachowski's and Keanu Reeves (and Carrie-Ann Moss!) want to work together , I would be happy with a continuation of the Matrix ,
because you would probably compare it with Genisys (2015) of the Terminator Franchise which was made specifically
as a Terminator Tribute Movie . It was a fun retro-styled movie made to appeal to the long-term fans !
Why not the same for the Wachowskis and the Matrix Series ?
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Post by bb15 on Mar 19, 2017 8:21:40 GMT
And I'm in between. Retro is fine but that depends on getting the most iconic actor from the franchise. Keanu Reeves is still a big star. A new Matrix movie would need him. Imo at least, BB ;-) |
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