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Post by mortsahlfan on May 6, 2023 20:52:54 GMT
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10/10 -- if even one person sees this movie as a result of this, then it's worth interrupting whatever I was doing to post this.
Humphrey Bogart is great in this, and deviates from his usual character around that time.
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Post by mattgarth on May 6, 2023 22:11:26 GMT
I don't have to show you no stinkin' movie!
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Post by tommyrockarolla on May 7, 2023 11:11:59 GMT
What a brilliant film. Probably my favorite John Huston film, and that’s really saying something.
All the performances are perfect, even Tim Holt, who appeared wooden in a lot of “B” movies.
I’ve changed my mind many times between Bogart and Walter Huston for ‘who’ is actually carrying this film.
Walters voice is almost unrecognizable next to his vast body of previous work.
Also?
This film is like the ‘spiritual big brother’ to another Huston film I like, “The Man Who Would Be King”, 1970’s, starring Sean Connery and Michael Caine.
This project was originally going to be done with Clark Gable and Humphrey Bogart, but Bogart died, and it sat on the shelf for 15-20 years.
Not quite as good as “Treasure”, but a nice ‘companion piece’ in overall tone and feel.
And subject matter, really.
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Post by marianne48 on May 7, 2023 14:43:12 GMT
My favorite thing about this movie is having Bogart's character turn up in the 1950 Bugs Bunny cartoon 8 Ball Bunny.
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Post by mortsahlfan on May 7, 2023 18:16:31 GMT
What a brilliant film. Probably my favorite John Huston film, and that’s really saying something. All the performances are perfect, even Tim Holt, who appeared wooden in a lot of “B” movies. I’ve changed my mind many times between Bogart and Walter Huston for ‘who’ is actually carrying this film. Walters voice is almost unrecognizable next to his vast body of previous work. Also? This film is like the ‘spiritual big brother’ to another Huston film I like, “The Man Who Would Be King”, 1970’s, starring Sean Connery and Michael Caine. This project was originally going to be done with Clark Gable and Humphrey Bogart, but Bogart died, and it sat on the shelf for 15-20 years. Not quite as good as “Treasure”, but a nice ‘companion piece’ in overall tone and feel. And subject matter, really. Have you seen Walter Huston in "Dodsworth" or "Then There Were None"? Both great, and both on YouTube. |
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Post by tommyrockarolla on May 7, 2023 18:43:30 GMT
What a brilliant film. Probably my favorite John Huston film, and that’s really saying something. All the performances are perfect, even Tim Holt, who appeared wooden in a lot of “B” movies. I’ve changed my mind many times between Bogart and Walter Huston for ‘who’ is actually carrying this film. Walters voice is almost unrecognizable next to his vast body of previous work. Also? This film is like the ‘spiritual big brother’ to another Huston film I like, “The Man Who Would Be King”, 1970’s, starring Sean Connery and Michael Caine. This project was originally going to be done with Clark Gable and Humphrey Bogart, but Bogart died, and it sat on the shelf for 15-20 years. Not quite as good as “Treasure”, but a nice ‘companion piece’ in overall tone and feel. And subject matter, really. Have you seen Walter Huston in "Dodsworth" or "Then There Were None"? Both great, and both on YouTube. Oh yea. I’ve seen a fair amount of his films. He was an amazing actor in his time. In the early talkie era, he was a major star, even though those films, by design? Have performances that are stagie and theatrical, the trend then. Today they can seem dated. (I always think of how John Barrymore’s “Hamlet” was considered an iconic perf on the NY stage, compared to his early films which seem more ‘caricature’). As time went on, Hustons performances got more ‘real’. I can’t even tell he’s acting in “Treasure”. |
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Post by mortsahlfan on May 8, 2023 14:38:57 GMT
Have you seen Walter Huston in "Dodsworth" or "Then There Were None"? Both great, and both on YouTube. Oh yea. I’ve seen a fair amount of his films. He was an amazing actor in his time. In the early talkie era, he was a major star, even though those films, by design? Have performances that are stagie and theatrical, the trend then. Today they can seem dated. (I always think of how John Barrymore’s “Hamlet” was considered an iconic perf on the NY stage, compared to his early films which seem more ‘caricature’). As time went on, Hustons performances got more ‘real’. I can’t even tell he’s acting in “Treasure”.
Do you have any recommendations? Especially the "real" performances. He's made so many movies, it's hard to just randomly pick. Preferably one where he's a leading man.
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Post by tommyrockarolla on May 8, 2023 18:25:06 GMT
Daniel Webster is a Huston classic.
If you can handle a DW GRIFFITH sound movie, they did a biopic on Lincoln.
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Post by spiderwort on May 9, 2023 11:26:14 GMT
Do you have any recommendations? Especially the "real" performances. He's made so many movies, it's hard to just randomly pick. Preferably one where he's a leading man.
I liked him a lot in your picks, Wyler's DODSWORTH and Claire's AND THEN THERE WERE NONE. I also highly recommend him in Capra's AMERICAN MADNESS (1932), Milestone's RAIN (1932), Dieterle's THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER (1941), and Curtiz's YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1943). |
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Post by mortsahlfan on May 9, 2023 14:54:01 GMT
Do you have any recommendations? Especially the "real" performances. He's made so many movies, it's hard to just randomly pick. Preferably one where he's a leading man.
I liked him a lot in your picks, Wyler's DODSWORTH and Claire's AND THEN THERE WERE NONE. I also highly recommend him in Capra's AMERICAN MADNESS (1932), Milestone's RAIN (1932), Dieterle's THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER (1941), and Curtiz's YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1943). My very favorites are "Treasure", "Dodsworth", Devil and Daniel Webster. Thanks to that Revival Channel, I saw "And Then There Were None" and usually Mystery turns me off, but when I found out he was in it, I tried it out. After 15 minutes, I was really into it. Maybe I should stick to movies like those from the 40s? ...
I love Capra, so I'll try "American Madness" and the others mentioned earlier. Thanks! |
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Post by mortsahlfan on May 9, 2023 16:08:19 GMT
Gabriel Over The White House" is a good one. There's a few others I've seen. "Duel in the Sun" which was alright. I just saw "American Madness" and you can see Capra start. Expected a little more with a 75 minute movie; a more tighter story without so much crying  Walter + John Huston ~= Vittorio De Sica (a movie star, and star director) |
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Post by Prime etc. on May 9, 2023 16:40:08 GMT
White Suit: Such impudence never came my way. Early this afternoon I gave you money. When I was having my shoes polished, I gave you more money. Now you put the bite on me again. Do me a favor, will ya? Go occasionally to somebody else. It's beginning to get tiresome.
Dobbs: Oh, excuse me, mister. I never knowed it was you. I never looked at your face. I just looked at your hands and the money you gave me. Beg my pardon, mister. I promise I'll never put the bite on you again.
White Suit: [He hands over a peso] This is the very last you get from me. Just to make sure you don't forget your promise, here's another peso. But from now on, you have to make your way through life without my assistance.
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Post by spiderwort on May 9, 2023 19:44:02 GMT
Gabriel Over The White House" is a good one. There's a few others I've seen. "Duel in the Sun" which was alright. I just saw "American Madness" and you can see Capra start. Expected a little more with a 75 minute movie; a more tighter story without so much crying Glad you were able to see "American Madness." I haven't seen it in ages, but it made a big impression on me. And I don't remember "Duel in the Sun" very well; probably need see that one again. Haven't seen "Gabriel Over the White House" yet; been meaning to for years, but some how it keeps eluding me. But I've heard a lot of good things about it. Oh, and, of course, "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" is a simply brilliant, and Huston is great in it (his only Oscar win out of 4 nominations). |
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Post by mortsahlfan on May 10, 2023 10:44:17 GMT
Gabriel Over The White House" is a good one. There's a few others I've seen. "Duel in the Sun" which was alright. I just saw "American Madness" and you can see Capra start. Expected a little more with a 75 minute movie; a more tighter story without so much crying Glad you were able to see "American Madness." I haven't seen it in ages, but it made a big impression on me. And I don't remember "Duel in the Sun" very well; probably need see that one again. Haven't seen "Gabriel Over the White House" yet; been meaning to for years, but some how it keeps eluding me. But I've heard a lot of good things about it. Oh, and, of course, "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" is a simply brilliant, and Huston is great in it (his only Oscar win out of 4 nominations). "Gabriel Over The White House" would be perfect for 2023. I'd like to see it again, just to see where he's "at"
I also barely remember "Duel in the Sun" except the first act. I think it was a pretty long, melodrama.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 15, 2023 17:57:48 GMT
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Post by mortsahlfan on May 15, 2023 21:49:50 GMT
I read 'the jig' was improvised |
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Post by Prime etc. on May 15, 2023 22:18:43 GMT
In the radio version Walter Huston does not put on the cackling geezer bit--his voice is pretty consistent.
One thing about this story which is neat as symbolism is that the gold seeking is contrasted with a peach harvest--and peaches are harvested above ground and has a social factor to it. It's not isolating like gold mining. Yet it is also gold in color.
Robert Blake and Alfonso Bedoya manage to do something rare--they upstage Bogart in their scenes. Usually in a Bogie movie you are fixated on him a lot of the time but they are such strong presences that they manage to shift focus of the viewer to them while Bogart, partly by nature of the character, is muted.
The badges line is one of the most famous movie lines ever and yet the speaker is someone most people don't know by name.
It's my top ten favorite movies.
It's due for a rewatch.
Well, first off, I'm goin' to a Turkish bath and I'm gonna sweat and soak till I get all the grime and dirt out of my system. Then I'm goin' to a haberdasher's and I'm gonna get myself a brand new set of duds...a dozen of everything. Then, I'm goin' to a swell cafe - order everything on the bill of fare, and if it ain't just right, or maybe even if it is, I'm gonna bawl the waiter out and make him take the whole thing back...
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 16, 2023 14:35:14 GMT
I read 'the jig' was improvised It's the beginning of the scene that I love. Holt and Bogart pissing and whining so much that you miss Huston thoughtfully gently sifting the sand though his fingers. You think the mirth in Huston's cackle is just laughing at the two little girls instead of what was mixed in the sand.
One of my most underappreciated scenes in history
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Post by telegonus on May 21, 2023 7:15:23 GMT
Do you have any recommendations? Especially the "real" performances. He's made so many movies, it's hard to just randomly pick. Preferably one where he's a leading man.
I liked him a lot in your picks, Wyler's DODSWORTH and Claire's AND THEN THERE WERE NONE. I also highly recommend him in Capra's AMERICAN MADNESS (1932), Milestone's RAIN (1932), Dieterle's THE DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER (1941), and Curtiz's YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1943). Huston was sublime in Rain. Some might regard his performance as a bit stiff, maybe even hammy. I think he's perfect. From his first glimpse of Joan Crawford one can sense that things are not going to work out well for him in this movie, as a man and, especially, a man of God. He's wholly out of his depth. |
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