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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 4, 2023 16:27:32 GMT
Back to the Future We easily overlook the biggest crater from a beloved time travel classic. Marty clearly played a big role in getting his parents together in their past, when he returns to the present 30 years later they don't recognize what did in their past. It's almost as if his present self didn't meddle with the fabric of time to unite his future mom and dad. We don't really get their POV. Maybe they did recognize him. Although time travel probably wouldn't be anyone's first guess as to why he looks acts the same as a guy from their high school. I always liked to picture George in a Me Myself & Irene situation, quietly in denial about being cucked and raising someone else's bastard.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 4, 2023 16:31:44 GMT
Back to the Future We easily overlook the biggest crater from a beloved time travel classic. Marty clearly played a big role in getting his parents together in their past, when he returns to the present 30 years later they don't recognize what did in their past. It's almost as if his present self didn't meddle with the fabric of time to unite his future mom and dad. When Marty returns to 1985, he sees his other self take off to 1955. What happens when that Marty returns to 1985? I always pictured it as different universes. That Marty will go to a different 1985 just as our Marty returned to a different one from his previous 1985.
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Post by timshelboy on Jun 4, 2023 17:46:44 GMT
In VERTIGO surely Scotty would have seen a picture of the real Madeleine Elster in the newspapers...?
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 4, 2023 23:51:38 GMT
The scene with Bruce Wayne setting up this whole thing with the Russian dancers as an alibi in The Dark Knight has never made much sense to me. It seems that would have drawn more attention to him. Why bother using an alibi at all? I think he's being a bit paranoid haha I realize what would have fixed this whole thing and it is simple. If he didn't wear the Batman mask when in China. Then there would be no connection anyone could make to Batman if they looked into it. When in Gotham the Batman suit is symbol for that city, but it is unnecessary for what he is doing in China and adds unnecessary risk. Now perhaps you could say that maybe it was dark enough wear it couldn't be recognized he was wearing the Batman mask, but I think it would have been less risky on his part to just wear a black ski mask during that mission. Maybe I am overthinking this.
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Post by jcush on Jun 5, 2023 0:13:21 GMT
I think he's being a bit paranoid haha I realize what would have fixed this whole thing and it is simple. If he didn't wear the Batman mask when in China. Then there would be no connection anyone could make to Batman if they looked into it. When in Gotham the Batman suit is symbol for that city, but it is unnecessary for what he is doing in China and adds unnecessary risk. Now perhaps you could say that maybe it was dark enough wear it couldn't be recognized he was wearing the Batman mask, but I think it would have been less risky on his part to just wear a black ski mask during that mission. Maybe I am overthinking this. Good point, but he did tell Gordon and Harvey that he would get Lau, so I guess he felt he had to go as Batman or something.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 5, 2023 0:22:37 GMT
I realize what would have fixed this whole thing and it is simple. If he didn't wear the Batman mask when in China. Then there would be no connection anyone could make to Batman if they looked into it. When in Gotham the Batman suit is symbol for that city, but it is unnecessary for what he is doing in China and adds unnecessary risk. Now perhaps you could say that maybe it was dark enough wear it couldn't be recognized he was wearing the Batman mask, but I think it would have been less risky on his part to just wear a black ski mask during that mission. Maybe I am overthinking this. Good point, but he did tell Gordon and Harvey that he would get Lau, so I guess he felt he had to go as Batman or something. You could say it was for the audience as well. The audience wants to see him in his full Batman suit when doing big missions.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 5, 2023 0:36:04 GMT
Good point, but he did tell Gordon and Harvey that he would get Lau, so I guess he felt he had to go as Batman or something. You could say it was for the audience as well. The audience wants to see him in his full Batman suit when doing big missions. He's also theatrical by design to send a message to everyone. Why wouldn't he want the underworld to know it was Batman that nabbed their money launderer?
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 5, 2023 0:48:34 GMT
You could say it was for the audience as well. The audience wants to see him in his full Batman suit when doing big missions. He's also theatrical by design to send a message to everyone. Why wouldn't he want the underworld to know it was Batman that nabbed their money launderer? I'll give that to you. I didn't think of that, but if he were to be found out than it would make no difference and his handles that entire situation in a very risky way imo. If I wrote it I would have had him get off the boat and meet the plane nowhere near the alibi dancers and show him putting on a mask of some kind when going towards the plane, so there is no risk of the smugglers ever seeing his face. International smugglers I don't imagine being the most trustworthy people. Then you have Lau knowing that someone who works for Wayne Enterprises meeting with him in China the same day that Batman kidnaps him. I don't think it would take a genius to make a connection there.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 5, 2023 4:20:48 GMT
The Truman Show has a gripe for me - namely, the dozens & dozens of HAZMAT guys at the ready when Truman finally drives over the bridge. Are we really to believe these ppl are all on-call just waiting around 24/7/365 for a slim to nil chance Truman actually drives across?? I suppose there could be an underground Disney World style cast pathway system, for extras to scurry about & pop up.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jun 5, 2023 4:36:33 GMT
Lord of the Rings trilogy - Couldn't they have just taken the giant eagles to Mordor to destroy the ring? And how did Samwise put on so much weight with nothing to eat but some bread.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 5, 2023 4:51:34 GMT
You could say it was for the audience as well. The audience wants to see him in his full Batman suit when doing big missions. He's also theatrical by design to send a message to everyone. Why wouldn't he want the underworld to know it was Batman that nabbed their money launderer? I think I have maybe been thinking about it too much from the fact that I am seeing all of it close together in the movie, whereas the actual people involved probably wouldn't put it all together. Me thinking the dancers are going to be doing detective work or even pay much attention. It just seems that Wayne could have taken even more careful steps. I think I wouldn't have even thought much about it if the movie just said he was using the dancers as an alibi and then just jumped to him in China with Lucious and not shown the boat scene. I don't want anyone thinking this is some huge sticking point with me, it is just something that has sort of bugged me since probably the second or third time I watched The Dark Knight. But it doesn't hurt the movie for me at all. I just go with it when I watch the movie and I have thought maybe I am looking at it from the wrong perspective. So, I think I am overthinking it.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 5, 2023 5:43:46 GMT
He's also theatrical by design to send a message to everyone. Why wouldn't he want the underworld to know it was Batman that nabbed their money launderer? I think I have maybe been thinking about it too much from the fact that I am seeing all of it close together in the movie, whereas the actual people involved probably wouldn't put it all together. Me thinking the dancers are going to be doing detective work or even pay much attention. It just seems that Wayne could have taken even more careful steps. I think I wouldn't have even thought much about it if the movie just said he was using the dancers as an alibi and then just jumped to him in China with Lucious and not shown the boat scene. I don't want anyone thinking this is some huge sticking point with me, it is just something that has sort of bugged me since probably the second or third time I watched The Dark Knight. But it doesn't hurt the movie for me at all. I just go with it when I watch the movie and I have thought maybe I am looking at it from the wrong perspective. So, I think I am overthinking it. No, I get that part. He goes out of his way to set up an alibi with a dozen people only to swim toward a plane and disappear in full view of them. A bit odd. Stuff like that and reconstructing the bullet for the fingerprint (which was slightly ludicrous) were probably just there to give Bruce more to do.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 5, 2023 5:54:21 GMT
I think I have maybe been thinking about it too much from the fact that I am seeing all of it close together in the movie, whereas the actual people involved probably wouldn't put it all together. Me thinking the dancers are going to be doing detective work or even pay much attention. It just seems that Wayne could have taken even more careful steps. I think I wouldn't have even thought much about it if the movie just said he was using the dancers as an alibi and then just jumped to him in China with Lucious and not shown the boat scene. I don't want anyone thinking this is some huge sticking point with me, it is just something that has sort of bugged me since probably the second or third time I watched The Dark Knight. But it doesn't hurt the movie for me at all. I just go with it when I watch the movie and I have thought maybe I am looking at it from the wrong perspective. So, I think I am overthinking it. No, I get that part. He goes out of his way to set up an alibi with a dozen people only to swim toward a plane and disappear in full view of them. A bit odd. Stuff like that and reconstructing the bullet for the fingerprint (which was slightly ludicrous) were probably just there to give Bruce more to do. The bullet part was there so he could do some detective stuff. I always thought the way it is done was hard to believe though, but I am just able to run with it.
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