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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 14, 2023 12:45:25 GMT
The big question - Will the 76ers repeat?
Lots of Zion trade rumors being Scooted.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 14, 2023 13:13:35 GMT
Hearing some wild rumors involving the Celtics lately. I want no part of Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook, thank you. While I do think Mazzulla improved during the ECF, it's been reported that Horford and Smart were basically coaching the team during time outs. Both of them are likely to be gone next year, so Mazzulla's going to have to figure it out. I'm concerned, don't get me wrong. But I don't know that a fourth head coach in four years is the solution right now. If they crash and burn next year (i.e., don't at least make the ECF), he's gone.
I honestly don't want to get involved in trade speculation because in true Rey fashion, I'll just hate on every name thrown out there. We need a PG who can make shots and good decisions in late game scenarios in big games, and we need a reliable big.
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Post by sdm3 on Jun 14, 2023 14:02:10 GMT
The big question - Will the 76ers repeat?They're definitely in contention - to reach the second round. Boring answer but I'm taking the Nuggets again next year. At this point, it's up to the rest of the league to prove they can either stop or outscore this Denver offense. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 14, 2023 15:11:48 GMT
Denver 4 - Milwaukee 2... I think we deserve that series at least once.
As a fan, it seems the only 2 teams in the entire association without any sense of flux much at all are the Nuggets & Spurs.
2 teams out of the entire NBA... that'll be the prologue to the Wemby era doc one day.
Raptors moving on from Nurse & likely VanVleet is arguably addition by subtraction - the grind era of this team ran its course, they need more uplift & rhythm. Having watched most of their games, it seems nearly every other NBA team but them played like they were having fun... the Raptors need to lighten up & open things up a bit.
Their #13 spot in the draft seems a good spot for team needs, & that's a good restart. Thankfully, the team isn't in many stupid fan service rumours... unlike many other playoff teams.
Zion... Pop & the Spurs might as well just go for him, put him behind Wemby's spotlight & make them matchup duo hell for everyone else. The Spurs' organizational guardrails would serve Zion well, not to mention leaving New Orleans of all places. There's worse things in the world to be dealing with than a 22yr old having too much sex.
Talk of all-star USA vs. World teams, another symbolic changing of the guard for the NBA. Ja's suspension will probably be a stance on thug life chase. This really does feel like a watershed off-season/season to come.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 14, 2023 15:20:37 GMT
Denver 4 - Milwaukee 2... I think we deserve that series at least once. As a fan, it seems the only 2 teams in the entire association without any sense of flux much at all are the Nuggets & Spurs. 2 teams out of the entire NBA... that'll be the prologue to the Wemby era doc one day. Raptors moving on from Nurse & likely VanVleet is arguably addition by subtraction - the grind era of this team ran its course, they need more uplift & rhythm. Having watched most of their games, it seems nearly every other NBA team but them played like they were having fun... the Raptors need to lighten up & open things up a bit. Their #13 spot in the draft seems a good spot for team needs, & that's a good restart. Thankfully, the team isn't in many stupid fan service rumours... unlike many other playoff teams. Zion... Pop & the Spurs might as well just go for him, put him behind Wemby's spotlight & make them matchup duo hell for everyone else. The Spurs' organizational guardrails would serve Zion well, not to mention leaving New Orleans of all places. There's worse things in the world to be dealing with than a 22yr old having too much sex. Talk of all-star USA vs. World teams, another symbolic changing of the guard for the NBA. Ja's suspension will probably be a stance on thug life chase. This really does feel like a watershed off-season/season to come. Finally, an idea I can get behind. If that doesn't make these guys play with some pride, I don't know what will. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 14, 2023 15:23:00 GMT
Denver 4 - Milwaukee 2... I think we deserve that series at least once. As a fan, it seems the only 2 teams in the entire association without any sense of flux much at all are the Nuggets & Spurs. 2 teams out of the entire NBA... that'll be the prologue to the Wemby era doc one day. Raptors moving on from Nurse & likely VanVleet is arguably addition by subtraction - the grind era of this team ran its course, they need more uplift & rhythm. Having watched most of their games, it seems nearly every other NBA team but them played like they were having fun... the Raptors need to lighten up & open things up a bit. Their #13 spot in the draft seems a good spot for team needs, & that's a good restart. Thankfully, the team isn't in many stupid fan service rumours... unlike many other playoff teams. Zion... Pop & the Spurs might as well just go for him, put him behind Wemby's spotlight & make them matchup duo hell for everyone else. The Spurs' organizational guardrails would serve Zion well, not to mention leaving New Orleans of all places. There's worse things in the world to be dealing with than a 22yr old having too much sex. Talk of all-star USA vs. World teams, another symbolic changing of the guard for the NBA. Ja's suspension will probably be a stance on thug life chase. This really does feel like a watershed off-season/season to come. Finally, an idea I can get behind. If that doesn't make these guys play with some pride, I don't know what will. Wiggins & Murray now with back to back rings for Canada... the retire Vince's # chatter in Toronto naturally back on tap. |
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 14, 2023 15:37:33 GMT
I'll guess it comes no earlier than Friday.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 14, 2023 15:57:24 GMT
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 14, 2023 16:26:09 GMT
Jokic and Bird are probably a wash.
Murray and DJ/Ainge
McHale, Walton, and Parish make the difference.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 14, 2023 23:01:54 GMT
Pat Bev says Karl Anthony-Towns is the best center in the league.
And "My man when it comes to like offensively gifted players, I say, man ... it's two people, bro. It's K.A.T. and it's James Harden, and I think I got K.A.T."
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 14, 2023 23:40:14 GMT
Pat Bev says Karl Anthony-Towns is the best center in the league. And "My man when it comes to like offensively gifted players, I say, man ... it's two people, bro. It's K.A.T. and it's James Harden, and I think I got K.A.T."  |
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 15, 2023 11:36:55 GMT
Evan Turner on Jokic
“He has unbelievable numbers, but then when you factor in the defensive side of it, he’s not the best defensively,” Turner said. “And sometimes you look at it, it’s like, is this a game of basketball or is this a game of offense or what people like to watch? Because I believe the game of basketball is supposed to be effective from all levels.”
“I’ve been in (a) locker room and we’ve been told to play Jokic in the pick-and-roll every time,” Turner said. “You go back and look at Dame Lillard, he’s like had two or three 60-point games versus Denver.”
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 15, 2023 11:50:44 GMT
Evan Turner on Jokic “He has unbelievable numbers, but then when you factor in the defensive side of it, he’s not the best defensively,” Turner said. “And sometimes you look at it, it’s like, is this a game of basketball or is this a game of offense or what people like to watch? Because I believe the game of basketball is supposed to be effective from all levels.” “I’ve been in (a) locker room and we’ve been told to play Jokic in the pick-and-roll every time,” Turner said. “You go back and look at Dame Lillard, he’s like had two or three 60-point games versus Denver.” He has a point. Not that Jokic isn't a great player, but I wouldn't exactly call him a great two-way player. |
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 15, 2023 12:07:55 GMT
Evan Turner on Jokic “He has unbelievable numbers, but then when you factor in the defensive side of it, he’s not the best defensively,” Turner said. “And sometimes you look at it, it’s like, is this a game of basketball or is this a game of offense or what people like to watch? Because I believe the game of basketball is supposed to be effective from all levels.” “I’ve been in (a) locker room and we’ve been told to play Jokic in the pick-and-roll every time,” Turner said. “You go back and look at Dame Lillard, he’s like had two or three 60-point games versus Denver.” He has a point. Not that Jokic isn't a great player, but I wouldn't exactly call him a great two-way player. Maybe a healthy Herro could have made a difference in the series. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 15, 2023 13:18:33 GMT
He has a point. Not that Jokic isn't a great player, but I wouldn't exactly call him a great two-way player. Maybe a healthy Herro could have made a difference in the series. Maybe, though it seems like Denver was the better team, plain and simple. The Heat finally faced a team that could run their offense consistently, and they didn't have answers. If I'm Miami, I'm trying to figure out how to perform in the regular season as well as we performed in the playoffs. Regarding Jokic-- From the quote you posted, it doesn't seem like Turner was suggesting Jokic is overrated or anything, only that he isn't the greatest two-way player. I think that's a fair assessment without crossing over into 'hot take' territory. If anything, it sounds more like he's complaining about the current style of play in the NBA rather than Jokic himself. |
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Post by sdm3 on Jun 15, 2023 13:24:01 GMT
Maybe a healthy Herro could have made a difference in the series. Maybe, though it seems like Denver was the better team, plain and simple. The Heat finally faced a team that could run their offense consistently, and they didn't have answers. If I'm Miami, I'm trying to figure out how to perform in the regular season as well as we performed in the playoffs. Regarding Jokic-- From the quote you posted, it doesn't seem like Turner was suggesting Jokic is overrated or anything, only that he isn't the greatest two-way player. I think that's a fair assessment without crossing over into 'hot take' territory. If anything, it sounds more like he's complaining about the current style of play in the NBA rather than Jokic himself. Yeah, it’s not controversial. Jokic is more than a few steps behind, say, Giannis and Embiid defensively. However, he’s beyond both in terms of overall offense and basketball IQ. He’s also vastly superior to Embiid in his mentality and clutch factor. It really comes down to what you want out of your stars and how you’ve built your roster, because clearly his defensive game didn’t hurt the team in this run. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 15, 2023 14:05:51 GMT
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Post by sdm3 on Jun 15, 2023 14:09:44 GMT
Embiid pulled a Shooter McGavin. |
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Post by thebayharborbutcher on Jun 15, 2023 21:38:31 GMT
Hearing some wild rumors involving the Celtics lately. I want no part of Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook, thank you. While I do think Mazzulla improved during the ECF, it's been reported that Horford and Smart were basically coaching the team during time outs. Both of them are likely to be gone next year, so Mazzulla's going to have to figure it out. I'm concerned, don't get me wrong. But I don't know that a fourth head coach in four years is the solution right now. If they crash and burn next year (i.e., don't at least make the ECF), he's gone. I honestly don't want to get involved in trade speculation because in true Rey fashion, I'll just hate on every name thrown out there. We need a PG who can make shots and good decisions in late game scenarios in big games, and we need a reliable big. Westbrook I’ll pass on, but I still think CP3 might be good off the bench. Obviously he’s gotta be willing to take on that role. I’m like on the fence about trading Smart. There’s a lot to like about him. I feel like he has done a lot for the team. However, he hasn’t really been that offensive QB style PG we need in the playoffs. A combination of Brogdon and CP3 at PG might be a stronger way to go. I don’t wanna see them lose AL. He’s a good veteran presence. Again though like Chris Paul I think it’s time for him to take on that bench role. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 15, 2023 22:46:37 GMT
Hearing some wild rumors involving the Celtics lately. I want no part of Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook, thank you. While I do think Mazzulla improved during the ECF, it's been reported that Horford and Smart were basically coaching the team during time outs. Both of them are likely to be gone next year, so Mazzulla's going to have to figure it out. I'm concerned, don't get me wrong. But I don't know that a fourth head coach in four years is the solution right now. If they crash and burn next year (i.e., don't at least make the ECF), he's gone. I honestly don't want to get involved in trade speculation because in true Rey fashion, I'll just hate on every name thrown out there. We need a PG who can make shots and good decisions in late game scenarios in big games, and we need a reliable big. Westbrook I’ll pass on, but I still think CP3 might be good off the bench. Obviously he’s gotta be willing to take on that role. I’m like on the fence about trading Smart. There’s a lot to like about him. I feel like he has done a lot for the team. However, he hasn’t really been that offensive QB style PG we need in the playoffs. A combination of Brogdon and CP3 at PG might be a stronger way to go. I don’t wanna see them lose AL. He’s a good veteran presence. Again though like Chris Paul I think it’s time for him to take on that bench role. I love Smart and Horford, but I'm not sure what their role is going forward. Smart isn't a starting PG in this league. He's better off the bench as an energy defender who can guard any position on the court and make hustle plays. He was always great in that role, I'm afraid he'll see it as a demotion. It may not matter because he's a good enough player to package to get the missing ingredient, whomever that might be. Horford looked spent this postseason, not sure what he has left in the tank. |
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