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Post by transfuged on Jan 24, 2024 20:50:42 GMT
Its not a mystery to me. Not being able to make an informed decision can lead to a natural scepticism your end, can't it though? But send me a picture of Santa, see if that convinces me that he exists. Manipulation, I wrote. Qod. Love, hug, kisses. Couch. Love.
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Post by Admin on Jan 24, 2024 22:25:58 GMT
Its not a mystery to me. Not being able to make an informed decision can lead to a natural scepticism your end, can't it though? But send me a picture of Santa, see if that convinces me that he exists. Aww, you named the jelly bean Santa. That's adorable. "It's not a mystery to me." Indeed. Problem is, you're the one who said you work in mysterious ways...
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 24, 2024 23:03:41 GMT
The reality is that the obdurate are always with us. If you reading this thread properly you would have seen that's why I already suggested that I would have been better off writing the more realistic "You know what it ought to take to convince everyone of your existence". I also did not write "bring all souls to salvation" which might have suggested what I intended. I hope that helps. Thanks for the repeated offer of your couch, but your mother won't shift. My mom is at the other end of the country. Love. Hug. Kisses. Couch. Love Could be your gran then...
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 24, 2024 23:04:51 GMT
Its not a mystery to me. Not being able to make an informed decision can lead to a natural scepticism your end, can't it though? But send me a picture of Santa, see if that convinces me that he exists. Manipulation, I wrote. Qod (sic). Love, hug, kisses. Couch. Love. Just as obscure as ever, but thank you anyway. Seriously though, if you want further replies, you will have to leave out your home furnishing and offer up something comprehensible and less frivolous. I've had beans from Admin and couches from you. It is no incentive to continue.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 24, 2024 23:20:47 GMT
Its not a mystery to me. Not being able to make an informed decision can lead to a natural scepticism your end, can't it though? But send me a picture of Santa, see if that convinces me that he exists. Aww, you named the jelly bean Santa. That's adorable. "It's not a mystery to me." Indeed. Problem is, you're the one who said you work in mysterious ways... By the same reckoning then, an inscrutable God would not know what it was doing. That would explain a lot. No picture of Santa then?
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Post by Admin on Jan 24, 2024 23:27:27 GMT
Aww, you named the jelly bean Santa. That's adorable. "It's not a mystery to me." Indeed. Problem is, you're the one who said you work in mysterious ways... By the same reckoning then, an inscrutable God would not know what it was doing. That would explain a lot. No picture of Santa then? By the same reckoning as that one, you don't know why you don't believe there's a [photo of a] jelly bean on page 6. QED
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 24, 2024 23:55:37 GMT
By the same reckoning then, an inscrutable God would not know what it was doing. That would explain a lot. No picture of Santa then? By the same reckoning as that one, you don't know why you don't believe there's a [photo of a] jelly bean on page 6. QED Good job your reckoning is illogical then lol. One can work in mysterious ways to others and yet know full well what one does. So nothing has been demonstrated. You didn't dispute the nonsense about God your logic would result in I notice. See how it works? I do. However since you are so keen to know the source of my doubt, it is time to end your suspense. I doubt because you have been going on about beans too much and any supposed appearance here I think is only through the power of suggestion. I also tend to hallucinate about beans after a bad salad experience. Any possible doubt is enough to prove my point, and it is irrelevant whether you think it reasonable or sensible, it is that it matters to the sceptic. And as I have said before in matters of religion, (which is what ultimately this is about) it is best to take people at their word. Needless to say (should it really be there) such an image would only be evidence for the image itself and not for the actual existence of a bean - a consideration which is much more the subject of this thread. The lack of a Santa Pic from you rather suggests you know this. That about wraps it up here. Thank you for playing. edited to expand second paragraph.
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Post by Admin on Jan 25, 2024 0:09:13 GMT
By the same reckoning as that one, you don't know why you don't believe there's a [photo of a] jelly bean on page 6. QED Good job your reckoning is illogical then lol. One can work in mysterious ways to others and yet know full well what one does. So nothing has been demonstrated. See how it works? I do. However since you are so keen to know the source of my doubt, it is because you have been going on about beans too much and any supposed appearance here I think is only through the power of suggestion. I also tend to hallucinate about beans after a bad salad experience. Needless to say (should it really be there) such an image would only be evidence for the image itself and not for the actual existence of a bean - a consideration which is much more the subject of this thread. Apparently you don't know how it works because you think you work in mysterious ways. Funny how you suddenly knew the source of your doubt after I pointed that out. Which is why I said "choose one jelly bean from the image." If you read my posts as diligently as you read your own, you would have known that. You also would know that I already said that. So now, being convinced that you're only interested in your own posts, I'll leave you to them. The game never actually began because your pedantry wouldn't let you take that first little baby step. So... QED, lol, and I hope that helps. Don't let your saddle bag.
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Post by transfuged on Jan 25, 2024 23:21:45 GMT
My mom is at the other end of the country. Love. Hug. Kisses. Couch. Love Could be your gran then... rip gran. She might have been Interested in sharing that couch you are still on. Love.
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Post by transfuged on Jan 25, 2024 23:26:11 GMT
Manipulation, I wrote. Qod (sic). Love, hug, kisses. Couch. Love. Just as obscure as ever, but thank you anyway. Seriously though, if you want further replies, you will have to leave out your home furnishing and offer up something comprehensible and less frivolous. I've had beans from Admin and couches from you. It is no incentive to continue. Really ? What about actually reading other’s former posts above. ? Hug. Kiss. Couch. Love.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 26, 2024 0:16:35 GMT
Just as obscure as ever, but thank you anyway. Seriously though, if you want further replies, you will have to leave out your home furnishing and offer up something comprehensible and less frivolous. I've had beans from Admin and couches from you. It is no incentive to continue. Really ? What about actually reading other’s (sic) former posts above. ? Hug. Kiss. Couch. Love. I do. God may move in mysterious ways. You write in them. And with that, unless you can offer something understandable and interesting enough, as said above that's the last you will hear from me here.
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Post by transfuged on Jan 26, 2024 21:04:43 GMT
🎥 🎬 🎦 🎞 🎥 🎬 🎦 🎞 🎥 flâneur A Manipulation p 4
Last Edit: Jan 19, 2024 at 12:35am by transfuged
B”Thats the last you will hear from me ”... twice is two times too much.
I bet a pound of sausage against a pound of gold that you can’t change your ways. You’ll be back with the same reticence and manipulations, selecting what suits you and unable to consider you might have been wrong. And delaying. Too bad because it is almost certain that you realized there’s something wrong with imposing one’s will on others while pretending to be a sweet god of for sweet people.(It’s almost a hunch.) You don’t need to ”go”, maybe. No one is kicking you out. You can stay awhile on the couch. When you behave, who knows ? Hugs, kisses, love. T
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 26, 2024 23:58:35 GMT
🎥 🎬 🎦 🎞 🎥 🎬 🎦 🎞 🎥 flâneur Last Edit: Jan 19, 2024 at 12:35am by transfuged B”Thats the last you will hear from me ”... twice is two times too much. A minor point, but you don't use use my full sentence which was "... unless you can offer something understandable and interesting enough, as said above that's the last you will hear from me " What were among those things you said about my arguments? "...manipulations, selecting what suits you..." Thought so. So then: here it seems as if you have had someone finally proof-read your answer - which, while still repeating what has been asserted before, I felt still worth a reply if only to help you out, as maybe you missed a lot of previous exchanges. If only I asked for that in my original question, if that is what you imply. (And please don't forget my qualification of it, to make what I actually meant more explicit, as told you recently). As I had said before, it is notable how believers assume right off that their presumed deity must be authoritarian in all it does. By offering a more informed choice in determining His likely existence, God would not be 'imposing His will' on anyone. especially if it was asked for. Before I buy a house I would ask for a full inspection report. The surveyor is doing nothing more than offering information to enable my decision, not forcing me to buy. In the same way, limbs growing back at Lourdes would honestly entail me believing ... as a choice. In short, what my question asked for was something quite reasonable, a something which ought to be more persuasive than so far in bringing more people to belief which we are told God wants. It has yet to be claimed here by anyone that informed choice is a bad thing. God's proof may make it very difficult to still deny things, but the obdurate would always been with us, with reasons they think good enough for them.
I put the above in italics so that it can be referred back to when you need to. We can however agree though that a deity that does impose its will on others is a bad thing if free choice is paramount. Which is why wonders God supposedly 'hardens the hearts' of so many in scripture, to effect His will, something also noted before. If choice is so important why would the deity not wish us to use it most effectively? (This could be a second question to put to the Almighty once He makes Himself known.) Thank you for the list of negative adjectives you attribute to me btw. However such claims are always best when supported by substantiation. Let me see now. How long is it since I asked you to provide examples of my "mangled English" you claimed?
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Post by transfuged on Jan 27, 2024 0:46:21 GMT
🎥 🎬 🎦 🎞 flaneur Yes, your sentence is not whole. It is off topic. It is about yourself. On the couch. Hugs kisses love,
Ps I bet you owe me a pound of gold. Or you will !
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Post by transfuged on Jan 27, 2024 0:56:08 GMT
Film flaneur Your posts are yours to edit. Please do your own proof reading, I’m not doing it for you and I do not enjoy doing it as I noted. That is once you are through arranging the sheets over the couch, of course.
Love.
T
Ps I noted you wrote too many times about your departure. And you are still around... Who suspected right ?
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Post by transfuged on Jan 27, 2024 1:23:51 GMT
Film flaneur And about what is not off topic, I suggest you start reading the above posts. I wrote about thinkers and gods, or not?
The couch is actually a lounge couch made of white wood, with a light mattress. Love, hugs, kisses T
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Post by Admin on Jan 27, 2024 2:01:10 GMT
By offering a more informed choice in determining His likely existence, God would not be 'imposing His will' on anyone. especially if it was asked for. Before I buy a house I would ask for a full inspection report. The surveyor is doing nothing more than offering information to enable my decision, not forcing me to buy. Seems to me that the first order of business would be to eliminate any doubt you may have that the house even exists. Whether or not you buy it is as irrelevant to your original question as you saying that you might not eat the jelly bean. Eliminating all doubt of the existence of something isn't the same as worshiping, buying, or eating it.
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Post by transfuged on Jan 27, 2024 2:23:06 GMT
Film flaneur Please, when you have developments projects on your mind, get a second opinion before getting swindled. The real estate probably ordered the survey. Real estate business is something to be very carefull about, and please do exercise every bit of sense nature provided you with.
If Iwere about to compare business and religion I would have noted smtg very funny... Only I read à comic with wise cracker stories making fun of religion just a few hours ago. And I suspect most of those wisecracks may have been found online. My funny reply I keep to myself. And the comparison.
You know indeed that in there is something called secularism. Elsewhere in the state I live, church and republic are free of each other, there is no official church. Churches, cults, faiths are provided the same rights as other bodies, followers must be free to practice, save when they interact with civil service and state. Some religious zealots have been pretending that provided church and state are free from each other, in the private /not public ”sphere”, people can’t must not be without faith. That is denying thése people the right to be atheists. Not far from here, in the country accross the border, there is a mandatory tax funding for church. All I shall note is that imho, atheists have been granted by the law a right not to believe. There is no need to attack church or state with sound and anger. And when cults are granted police protection to live their ”religious life” so must be free thinking. Now free thinking is about thinking. ”Comparaison n’est pas raison”. God (not that sure about church) has nothing to sell to you.
There is some Milk for you accross the couch.
Kisses, hugs, love T
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 27, 2024 12:22:21 GMT
Film flaneur Please, when you have developments projects on your mind, get a second opinion before getting swindled. Hence the point of being able to make an informed choice. See how it works? (Admin seems to think that a surveyor would not report back that a potential purchase does not exist lol) In the UK at least one cannot get a mortgage without an independent survey, one which the buyer pays for. That would be the point: that to exercise sense in decision, one needs to be able to make an informed choice. The rest of your reply above and below is strictly irrelevant to the comparison. Religious history, though, is full of mendacity. Why am I not surprised to hear you read comics? This all seems, again apropos of nothing really. But That is very kind of your state, I am sure. There is no reason why, in a free society at least, the church or religion should be immune from criticism, while fully accepting the right of all to believe in what they wish, if that is what you are saying. Well, duh... Especially if it is very likely that He does not exist. If He does, then He would best address my, rather obvious, question. Otherwise the only thing being sold is credulity by the credulous, sometimes based on special pleading. I see you hardly addressed any of my points from last time and instead appeared to be trolling again through your usual gnomic messages.
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Post by transfuged on Jan 27, 2024 12:43:30 GMT
🎥 🎬 🎦 🎞 flaneur Prolégomène I’m not à godess, please, I can read anything toilet papier included. Off topic again. Focus. How’s the light mattress ? Do’you like it being on the couch ? Hugs, kisses, love T
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